XFCE and screen brightness meter

Recently I have notice a brightness meter shows up in the center lower part of my screen when i adjust the brightness on my laptop.  Was this due to something in the recent GNOME upgrade - it was never there before?
The reason I want to know is that is doesn't work... There is no actual value displayed, just a blank meter and I would like to get it working.  Something similar for volume would be good too but first things first

Update: it works fine when I unplug/plug the power to my laptop, but not when I change it manually...
Strange

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