XFi, Vistax64, CMSS in Media Cen

Hi All, I have an XFi Extreme Gamer, with 7. Creative Speakers. I am running Vista x64 Ultimate. When I test speakers in sound settings I get sound from all speakers. My problem is I have set CMSS to upmix, but in Media Centre playing 5. DVD's (or Stereo TV) It does not upmix it to 7.. For example the middle right and middle left speakers do nothing when playing 5.. I have found some relevant information in the knwon Vista Issues post but the status says there is a team working on it. Does anyone know if this has been fixed yet or an ETA (or just a workaround will do to get it working ) The Vista audio architecture changes the way per-stream audio processing works, which required us to write new software to support this
Issues that may be encountered:
CMSS no longer works on audio streams from the OS.
Status:
Features based on Windows XP architecture must be rewritten to conform to the new Vista architecture, and we have a team of software engineers, project managers and testers dedicated to this task in order to provide our customers the same seamless audio experience under Windows Vista that they enjoyed under Windows XP. Thanks Diaf

If you're that unhappy with their products, why buy them? Contacting the big retailers isn't going to keep them from carrying Creative's Products.
I don't think they've just "hacked" the previous drivers as the audio is completely rewritten in Vista. I fear that Creative has taken the same approach as some other companies out there and figuring that normal consumers don't have 4Gb of ram.... Then again, normal consumers don't have x64 windows either.
Rember whem Bill Gates said that something like 64K of ram was more than anyone would EVER need? I seem to remeber by the end of that year, 28k was "Too Much"
I think the bottom line here is that if you aren't happy with their products, vote with your wallet -Buy something else. As far as I'm concerned, I'm happy with my Audigy 2zs's and X-Fi. I'm NOT happy with "Software" sound solutions, such as the onboard sound or Turtle Beach's cards; after all, they are only Via chips on a add-in card. Still software sound.

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