XI 3.0, Party and Service problems (IDoc inbound)

Hi,
The scenario is:
Flatfile (J2SE plain adapter) => XI => IDoc => R3
The basic functionality Service Without a Party works ok. But I run into a restriction when trying to have more than one Business System having the
same Logical System Name (XI doesnt allow it). Basically I dont want to have one unique Logical System Name for every business scenario, especially when they come from the same legacy system (Technical System).
Is it possible to have only one Logical System Name for all the interfaces that comes
from the same legacy application (or even from all the legacy systems)?
Tried even to do the same with Party objects, but there I run into errors (cant even get the IDoc through):
"IDOC_ADAPTER">ATTRIBUTE_INV_SND_SERV
or
"IDOC_ADAPTER">ATTRIBUTE_INV_RCV_PARTY
depending on the configuration.
Is there any documentation about how these configurations
should be made?
br.samuli

Hallo Samuli,
i guess, you have the same problem that has already been discussed in here. That is if you create a new Business Scenario in the Configurator you can not see your business system you want to use. But that is not an error and also not a restriction of XI as you will discover in the post "can't assign business system twice". It is possible to use the logical system name of a legacy system for all interfaces coming from this system, everything else would not make sense.
Here the link to the message: can't assign business system twice
Best Regards
Christine

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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/b0b355ae-0501-0010-3b83-8f2bb566fa47
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