XI system as a business system in XI SLD?

Hello,
I recently saw an XI SLD where not just the R/3 business systems, but also the XI system itself was configured as a business system. Is there any need to have the XI system itself in its own SLD as a business system?
If yes: Do I also have to configure transport target for the XI business system (e.g. from XI dev to XI prod)?
Thanks,
Christoph

Hi,
yes the XI has to be configured as business system with role 'Integration Server'.
Regards
Patrick

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Technical systems with which the hardware of the system is specified in more detail (server data, and so on)."</i>
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Message was edited by: Michal Krawczyk

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Hi,
You cannot have same logical name for two business systems....
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Hi,
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2. Business Systems should be mandatory used when dealing with Idoc's and Proxies .
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Hi,
You are doing the usage of business systems and services in proper way.
The scenario will difinately work with combination of business system and service.
It will be fine for all other configurations such as Receiver Determination, Sender/receiver agreements and interface determination etc.
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A communication party
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A business system
If you want to address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system (service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software component versions of the business system.
You usually use business system services when configuring internal company processes.
A business service
If you want to address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
You usually use business services when configuring cross-company processes. In this case, you only make your interfaces known to the business partners involved and either do not make any details about your own system landscape available, or only specific details.
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Updated
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