XI Technical and Business System Definition For MDM 2.0
Hi,
We're trying to define the XI technical and business system definitions for our MDM 2.0 installation to work with SRM 5.0 and PI 7.0.
In the documentation we have we can't find reference to what type of a technical and business system to define. Should they be abap/java/standalone/3rd party?
Does anyone have any install scripts of what they did?
Regards,
Jerry Martinek
You can set it as third party and it will work fine. Because MDM isn't built on the wed application server like the majority of the netweaver apps, it's basically treated like a third party system as far as integration is concerned. Hence you send and receive XML documents to PI and convert them into IDocs to send to R/3
Check the beginning of this document on creating the business and technical systems for MDM
/people/harrison.holland5/blog/2006/12/20/xi-configuration-for-mdm-integration--sample-scenario
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XI Technical and Business System Definitions For MDM 2.0
Hi,
We're trying to define the XI technical and business system definitions for our MDM 2.0 installation to work with SRM 5.0 and PI 7.0.
In the documentation we have we can't find reference to what type of a technical and business system to define. Should they be abap/java/standalone/3rd party?
Does anyone have any install scripts of what they did?
Regards,
Jerry MartinekThird party will work fine
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How to decide no.Technical and Business Systems required for any senario
Hi XI experts
I am very new to XI but it is very interesting ....
To develop any scenario how to decide Technical systems and Business
Systems...
For any scenario but how to decide the systems howmany to create ?
I had a scenario like SOAP to RFC to SOAP ? For this how to decide?
One more like FILES to BPM to JDBC ...like
Can any one explain me for any scenario which may include SAP
R/3,CRM,APO,BW,JDBC,SOAP,RFC...any system.
Adv..thanks and points to all
KiranlvsHi Kiran.
Ok here I will try to answer your question.
1) SOAP (Web Service) -> RFC (R/3) -> SOAP (Web Service)
a) you will need to create a Business System for R/3.
b) you will need to create a third party business system or a business service for the Web Service system.
2) File (File System) -> XI -> JDBC (Database)
a) you will need to create a third party business system or a business service for the File system.
b) you will need to create a third party business system or a business service for the Database system.
note: BPM is one of the functionality of XI so there is no need to create a BS or TS for it.
3) CRM or APO or BW (SAp Systems) -> XI -> IDoc (R/3)
a) Business System for CRM or APO or BW
b) Business System for R/3.
The bottom line is you need to create Business System for any SAP system that is part of you integration scenario or when you have to Idoc, RFC and Proxies.
If the business system already exists for the SAP system then you just need to attach your SWCV or Product to that Business System.
Regards,
Ashish -
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Hi Experts,
How To Create A Technical And Business Systems For Web AS ABAP ???
Please Let me Know All the Step-By-Step Process to Create ????
Points Will be Given
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KhannaHi Sumit,
When U Told the thing that first time to execute the RZ70 and All i Did this in XI System
So I got An Entry for the Technical System for XI System.
Now i Deleted that and Executed RZ70 in R/3.
When I Executed RZ70, I got this Error.
<b> "RFC Call failed: Error Opening an RFC Connection "</b>.
Now I am Unable to see Any Technical System Under Web As ABAP. It's Showing Empty Now.
Please Let me know
Regards
Khanna -
SLD Export / import Technical and Business systems
Dear all,
I am new to SLD administration.
We have task to update the local SLD on the Production PI system PPI ( Target ) with the business systems ZEC, ZSC from the Production Master SLD on Production solution manager system
PSM ( source ) using Export/Import on the necessary technical and business systems.
Please confirm whether i am following correct steps :
Go to SLD Administration on PPI target system
ALL Instances
Instances by Class
Model
( which one of this option need to be selected , please let me know ?? )
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select Export button ->
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at local machine.
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select Import button ->
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Start Import button ( only if you get Continue import option )
Please let me know if above procedure is correct for business systems
if yes then what need to be done for Technical system ??...do they require Export/import also ?
If yes when i go to technical system option i get Export option disabled...but same way when i go to
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Do i need to only Export / Import business systems ?
Plese help me.
Regards,
RRManoj,
It seems entries are added manually .... should we remove and run Import for the same ...
or just try to overwrite .... in case of overwrite option ( as we have open OSS message ) SAP has suggested through OSS message that If you end up with problems when trying to overwrite, then the PPI SLD is broken and will have to be re-built because someone made a manual change to it and got the GUIDs out of synch with the master.
I do not understand if target system PPI SLD gets broken during overwriting operation as mentioned by SAP ... whats is the way / steps / procedure to Re-build SLD .
In rebuilt - process do i need to Import ( Export -> Export lines -> ALL ) the export backup created before start of this activity ? please let me know SLD rebuilt steps and about Remove - reimport issue.
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Creation of Technical and Business Systems
HI Experts,
If I am having the one ECC, SAP 4.6C , Sap 4.7E, Mainframe , SQL Server systems, to integrate all these systems how we can maintain these in SLD.
Please Explain how many Technical Systems and Business Systems for these systems.
thaxHi Sridhar
It is depend upon the type of the scenarios and your requirement.
There are a few basics you need to understand to be able to answer this.
1, Technical and Business Systems are of 3 types Java / ABAP and ThirdParty.
2. When dealing with Java Proxies and Idocs/ ABAP Proxies, you need to create Technical and Business Systems corresponding to your SAP systems.
3. For JDBC and SOAP etc, you can use a single Third Party Business System or , create multiple corresponding to each system you are integrtaing with you can use Business Service etc!
there are no hard and fast rules for JDBC , SOAP adapters and it all depends on how you are architecturally strucutring your SLD and your entire Integration landscape.
Cheers..
Vasu
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Hi,
I need to create a business system called ERT which is a sap R/3 system.
As we are using XI 3.0, please do provide the steps.
Moreover, once we create the technical and business system, how do we actually test it without running an scenario.
Regards
KrishGuys,
I tried creating comparing with development environment.
The only problem i am facing is that when we click technical system landscape, you have a parameter called system home.
That one is highlighted in development environment whereas it is not in my environment.
While giving some details, i dont know where to give the IP address of the technical system name.
If some kind of weblog is there, would be really helpful. -
Change in technical and business system.
hi,
in production we are replacing SRM system with NEW SRM system.the only difference is the host name.if create a new technical system with new host name and business system based on this techical system,will the scenario work perfectly.
all other details are same in both.
the business system name is same as previous and in scenario of integration directory.
will the change in HOST NAME effect the scenario.
plz let me know and the abap tables in which the details of this T SYS and B SYS are stored in .
thanks and regards
vijenderHi,
The Following things needs to be take care
1) Make sure that your Logical System name is same as Old one in the Newly created TS
2) Make sure that Your BS name is same as Old Name
After this do SLD data Update through ID-Environment-SLD cache update
Now trigger the Scenario
REgards
Seshagiri -
Creation of technical system and business system
Hi Guys,
Im just a beginner in SAP XI..I would like to know what will be the setup in my SLD .
My data will be coming from MS SQL and will transfer it to SAP R/3.
Is it true that I need to setup the Technical system , one for my Sender (data coming from sql ) and
one for my Receiver (data will transfer to SAP R/3).
about the Business system? do i need to create buss system for Sender and receiver?
Please help.
Thanks in advance.
aVaDuDzHi,
you don't have to create technical system for R/3 you should better use tcode RZ70 for selfregistering:
The specified item was not found.
And for this technical system you should create also a business system.
You should create a technical and business system for your MS SQL if it's inside of your system landscape.
Here is a good explanation:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwpi71/helpdata/en/43/01ea90ab24235de10000000a1553f7/frameset.htm
Regards
Patrick
Edited by: Patrick Koehnen on Oct 2, 2008 10:26 AM -
About ABAP Technical Systems and Business Systems
Hi experts,
I have an Integration scenary with XI and an R3 vía RFC. I've already created it in the development environment and when I'm going to transport to Consolidation and Production I find that the ABAP Business System related to the ABAP Technical System of the R3 have a different name from the development one.
In the Integration Repository everything its OK because my scenario is developped on a third party system BS and TS. The problem is in the Directory because of the BS of the Message interfaces....
I think that transport Directory scenario with .tpt wont work. I'll probably have to develop it in each environment... What do you think?
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GonzaloThis is what you need to do to move from Dev to QA.
1. Go to Dev SLD and Export all your SWCV, Products, Technical and Business Systems. This is nothing but saving of the SLD objects as a CIM file on your local machine. You would also need to export the Technical And Business System poitning to your XI integration server .
2. Go to the QA SLD and then import these objects exported in Step 1 in QA SLD
3. Now, create the QA Tech and Business Systems in the QA SLD
4. Go to the Dev Business systems imported on the QS SLD and you will have an option Transport Targets. In this map the Source Business System to the Target Business Systems.
Make sure that all Dev Business Systems have the correspodning Transport Targets for the QA Business SYstems
5. Now if you import the ID objects in QA , the business systems name will be renamed automatically.
Regards
Bhavesh -
Technical systems and Business systems in SAP XI
can any one tell me ,breifly explain the diff b/w <b>Technical Systems</b> & Business Systems?
steps to create Techincal system and Business systems?
and also Steps for creating Software Components? For Technical System we can create more than one Business systems ,what it means?can any one explain?Hi
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
U can also refer Blog's
Re: Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems
For creation of software component see link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/3172d290-0201-0010-2b80-c59c8292dcc9
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Ajay Kumar -
Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems
Hi
In a SLD we need to configure technical systems and Business systems.. what is the exact difference between Technical Systems and Business Systems..
this question is asked an interview.. for this.. how can we explain..
thanks
babuHi babu
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
Reward point if it help u understand -
SLD Configuration - Technical System and Business System
Hello,
I have installed SAP Solution Manager with local SLD and i want to use this system as Central SLD for my System Landscape. Later on i have installed other SAP Products like ECC,BI,PI etc.
Some of the systems i registered with previously defined SLD in Solution Manager, but some system i forgot to register with SLD during installation.
I am not sure or aware what is the difference between SLD configuration during installation and after installation.
If i have Register the System during installation will it register automatically with SLD or we have to do manually.
If i have not register system during installation and later on i want to register particular system with SLD what is procedure for that.
Can some one share knowledge on What is Technical Systems and Business System in SLD Configuration, i tried to do some activity for SLD Configuration but after seeing above both terms i was confused so for time being i stopped this activity.
Looking forward for kind response.
Best Regards,
V.SinghHello
try to go through these
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwesrce/helpdata/en/45/4208934d7f1193e10000000a1553f7/content.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/652b1f46-0a01-0010-25ae-e7cb07b55414 -
Technical system and Business system
Hi All
I am new XI.
Why we have WEB AS JAVA, WEB AS ABAP, THIRD PARTY etc etc in Technical system and Business system and when we will use that ?
Thanks
ssHi,
When we try to connect any other SAP R/3 system using XI, we need to create a business system in SLD.
Similarly for third party and WEB AS Java systems.
You will be using these in many scenarios.
Go thro the link for more info.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/42/c817d9d2296bb2e10000000a1553f6/frameset.htm
Regards,
P.Venkat -
Gathering Technical and Business Requirements for SAP PI
I need to some documents and tools, or interview guide & questionnaire to gather the stakeholders' technical and business requirements for SAP PI
Thanks for the links,
I am quite new at SAP and currently trying to elaborate should i use SAP PI or not based on my project stakeholder's requirements.
And my biggest problem right now is how to capture technology and business requirements and match them with SAP PI
I plan to use this format while requirements gathering about integration platform:
1- Draft Requirements
Q- What is the names and status of sending and receiving application and how they will be used
2- Detailed Requirements
Q- Connectivity, Administrative and Business related questins
3- Administrative and project management information
Q- Which applications are involved, who is the original supplier? Who is technical contact at the supplier
4- Business requirements
Q- Questions about the information flow which will support some business processes
5- Connectivity to applications
Q- Questions about connectivity mechanism, file formats (flat file or XML or something else), data access methods and so on
What do you think about the general concept?
Edited by: Alper Celik on Feb 2, 2009 10:37 AM
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