XMP data find in CS not in CS2

Our product uses the XMP SDK version 2.9. While I would like to upgrade to a more recent version, it is not completely practical for the shipping code. We have encountered a file with XMP data we wrote using this SDK which is then inserted into a jpg file. The resulting XMP data is completely read by Photoshop CS and by our application MediaBin, but when the same file is read into Photoshop CS2 only a subset of the data (specifcally the URL and the custom tags) appear and the description, for example, does not. Are there known incompatibilities between the older SDK and Photoshop CS2? I append the data (with customer data excised) below. Thanks for any feedback, Lyman Hurd Interwoven, Inc. <?xpacket begin='' id='W5M0MpCehiHzreSzNTczkc9d'?> <x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="XMP toolkit 2.9-9, framework 1.6"> <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" xmlns:iX="http://ns.adobe.com/iX/1.0/"> <rdf:Description rdf:about="" xmlns:xap="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/" xap:MetadataDate="2006-08-21T19:14:05Z"/> <rdf:Description rdf:about="" xmlns:xapRights="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/rights/" xapRights:Marked="True" xapRights:WebStatement="http://www.xxxxximages.com"/> <rdf:Description rdf:about="" xmlns:mbn="http://ns.interwoven.com/mediabin/1.0/"> <mbn:tag>#MB%:{88E1EC23-B253-4C79-8944-772852879E8F}ILMEDIABIN:%MB#</mbn:tag> </rdf:Description> <rdf:Description rdf:about="" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"> <dc:rights> <rdf:Alt> <rdf:li>Copyright © XXXXX. All Rights Reserved.</rdf:li> </rdf:Alt> </dc:rights> <dc:title> <rdf:Alt> <rdf:li>Picture Description</rdf:li> </rdf:Alt> </dc:title> </rdf:Description> <rdf:Description ID="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/"> <iX:changes> <rdf:Bag> <rdf:li>Title,2006-08-21T19:14:05Z,5,c</rdf:li> </rdf:Bag> </iX:changes> </rdf:Description> <rdf:Description ID="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/rights/"> <iX:changes> <rdf:Bag> <rdf:li>Copyright,2006-08-21T19:14:05Z,3,c</rdf:li> <rdf:li>Marked,2006-08-21T19:14:05Z,6,c</rdf:li> <rdf:li>WebStatement,2006-08-21T19:14:05Z,7,c</rdf:li> </rdf:Bag> </iX:changes> </rdf:Description> <rdf:Description ID="http://ns.interwoven.com/mediabin/1.0/"> <iX:changes> <rdf:Bag> <rdf:li>tag,2006-08-21T19:14:05Z,1,c</rdf:li> </rdf:Bag> </iX:changes> </rdf:Description> <rdf:Description ID="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"> <iX:changes> <rdf:Bag> <rdf:li>rights,2006-08-21T19:14:05Z,2,c</rdf:li> <rdf:li>title,2006-08-21T19:14:05Z,4,c</rdf:li> </rdf:Bag> </iX:changes> </rdf:Description> </rdf:RDF> </x:xmpmeta> <?xpacket end='w'?>

XMP is a powerful metadata format and I believe that it can be written directly to any mov or mp4 format media but not other formats such as mts. I have also experimented with using Prelude, Bridge, and Premiere to try and tag my footage. The conclusion I came to was that it just isnt worth the effort yet. None of them really communicate with each other very well and the interface for searching metadata (even after painfully inputting it using their metadata panels) is slow and cumbersome. Adobe did great by creating xmp, and lots of highend propriety software solutions for broadcast seem to be using it with custom software but there is nothing at the low end for normal users. Bridge doesn't seem to have been touched in several years. Even Lightroom, which would appear to be Adobe's most natural video tagger/organiser for the prosumer, doesn't create searchable usable tag data for use with Premiere. Right now I would say a good folder structure, using Finder's tag system (if you are on a mac), and spreasdsheets are the best way to work on smaller projects. Just my $2.

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- Audio: AAC, 320 kbps, 48 kHz, 5.1
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Hello,
There seems to be an issue with the way Lightroom applies changes in from the LR catalog to the assets metadata. The setup is LR 2.5 and there is an orginal set of images that have custom XMP data applied to them via Bridge. There is one LR catalog that points to these images and the LR catalog ratings and labels match those that are in these images. A second LR catalog copy (not export) was made where additional changes were made only to ratings and labels. This catalog also points to the original assets. When using the Save Metadata to files function in LR for this catalog (and selecting ALL files), LR erases all the original custom XMP data contained in the DNG images and writes only the ratings and label information.
It doesn't seem that LR should be overwriting the entire XMP packet when only ratings and labels have changed and are saved back to the assets. Is that the way this is designed or is this a malfunction?
Thanks for any help on this!
David

I may have answered my own question as we have run into this issue before. Lightroom is really not designed for any type of simultaneous workflow on the same files. Most content management applications utilize the check-in/check-out mechanism to avoid having to perform any type of merging or implement a logical business rule to determine which content updates "win" It is no different with Bridge and LR. You work in one application at a time doing specific things to the same files and then read from each other when those actions are complete. Working in this manner you never run into the merge issue or lose data from either side.
Our simple answer to this question is adjust our workflow timing for things to accommodate this behavior. The one thing that I will say is that LR does really need to provide some type of catalog history functionality that can be queried. I believe that LR does interact with the catalog database in this manner when you use the Save functionality from the context menu and have not imagery selected. It scans the database looking for any changes and then only updates those files it finds changes for. If we could only see this type of functionality added in a way that would show us history for changes to the catalog at large and not have to dig into individual assets to look for these changes that would be great.
We are going to look at a way to query the LR database itself to see if there isn't some time stamp information and file ID/filename data that can't be accessed as it would be invaluable to be able to look across large catalogs (well over 1000 images) and find the files that had been most recently updated (in updated I mean only simple updates to rating and label) and then separate these out to work with in their own group (collection).
I could also look at this as yet another opportunity to refine a workflow that doesn't create changes to identical data each time changes are incurred. I will look at that option much more closely as it is really the only thing we can easily control.
Cheers!
~David

Trying to get Xinet XMP data

Hi Everyone,
I'm trying to create a slug script for InDesign CS3 that retrieves custom Xinet metadata from a custom XMP panel. I was able to complete this task in Illustrator CS3 by using the following code to connect to the XMP data:
// load the library:
if (ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript == undefined) {
ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript = new ExternalObject('lib:../../Frameworks/AdobeXMPScript');
// get the custom client field:
var docXmp = new XMPMeta(docRef.XMPString);
var xmpClient = docXmp.getProperty('http://ns.xinet.com/ns/xinetschema#',"CLIENT");
alert(xmpClient);
I've noticed that the Frameworks file for InDesgin is AdobeXMP.framework and not AdobeXMPScript, and the XMPMeta object does not apparently exist in AdobeXMP.framework.
Am I missing something here? I find it very odd that Adobe would use different libraries across their applications for something that's supposed to be a standard. How can I retrieve the Xinet data?
Thanks,
-Dave

I figured it out. Here's the solution:
var myClient = docRef.metadataPreferences.getProperty('http://ns.xinet.com/ns/xinetschema#', "CLIENT");
alert(myClient);

XMP data - when is it written to folders

I assume that XMP data is written, as needed to the LR data base.
However, if I have selected to "Automatically write changes to XMP", when are those changes written? Are they written as changes are made or only when LR is closed....or at some other time.
This is important if I plan to go to PS to work a file or batch process a number of files.
EDIT: I just had a specific instance where I cropped an image in LR, and it has not shown up in either CS2 or CS3 ACR (latest levels on both, WIN/XP SP2)
RE-EDIT: OK...OK....I missed the '!' with the message. Apparently it trier and had a problem. Can you add a auto-rewrite function....or some higher level notice of a XMP write problem which will point out the specific files having a problem....otherwise one would not know there was a problem (as I didn't) and/or have to go hunt for it.
Thanks for a great product. I was not sure where it fit with the work you were doing with CS3, but so far I am impressed.
John

For posterity, here is the answer, answered on stack overflow:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27861080/when-is-it-safe-to-release-an-imfsample-and-its-data/27862288#27862288
No, it's not necessary to put on an asynchronous callback to free the memory.

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