Xorg and refresh rates

I'm running Solaris Express 10 x86 4/05 on a Dell Optiplex GX260. Xorg refuses to give me a refresh rate higher than 60Hz. This is using the i810 driver but it also happens with the VESA driver. Here's my xorg.conf:
Section "Module"
# This loads the DBE extension module.
    Load        "dbe"   # Double buffer extension
# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection
# This loads the font modules
    Load        "bitstream"
    Load        "type1"
#    Load        "speedo"
# This loads the Xst module
     Load       "Xst"
# This loads the SolarisIA module
     Load       "IA"
# This loads the GLX module
#    Load       "glx"
# This loads the DRI module
#    Load       "dri"
EndSection
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
Section "Files"
# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.
    RgbPath     "/usr/X11/lib/X11/rgb"
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
    FontPath   "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/sun/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
# The module search path.  The default path is shown here.
#    ModulePath "/usr/X11/lib/modules"
EndSection
# Server flags section.
Section "ServerFlags"
# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging
#    Option "NoTrapSignals"
# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.
#    Option "DontVTSwitch"
# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.
#    Option "DontZap"
# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.
#    Option "Dont Zoom"
# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.
#    Option "DisableVidModeExtension"
# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client.
#    Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"
# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings.
#    Option "DisableModInDev"
# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).
#    Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"
EndSection
# Input devices
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard1"
    Driver      "Keyboard"
# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.
#    Option     "Protocol"      "Xqueue"
    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#    Option     "Xleds"      "1 2 3"
#    Option "LeftAlt"     "Meta"
#    Option "RightAlt"    "ModeShift"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc105"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "microsoft"
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
# or:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  "nodeadkeys"
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#    Option "XkbOptions"  "ctrl:swapcaps"
# These are the default XKB settings for Xorg
#    Option "XkbRules"    "xorg"
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc105"
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "us"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  ""
#    Option "XkbOptions"  ""
#    Option "XkbDisable"
    Option "XkbRules"   "xorg"
    Option "XkbModel"   "pc101"
    Option "XkbLayout"  "us"
EndSection
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier and driver
    Identifier  "Mouse1"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "Auto"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/mouse"
# Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse.
#    Option "Resolution"        "256"
# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.
#    Option "Protocol"  "Xqueue"
# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.
#    Option "BaudRate"  "9600"
#    Option "SampleRate"        "150"
# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)
    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#    Option "Emulate3Timeout"    "50"
# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
#    Option "ChordMiddle"
EndSection
# Other input device sections
# this is optional and is required only if you
# are using extended input devices.  This is for example only.  Refer
# to the xorg.conf man page for a description of the options.
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier  "Mouse2"
#    Driver      "mouse"
#    Option      "Protocol"      "MouseMan"
#    Option      "Device"        "/dev/mouse2"
# EndSection
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball"
#    Driver     "magellan"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball2"
#    Driver     "spaceorb"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen0"
#    Driver     "microtouch"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "1412"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "15184"
#    Option     "MinY"          "15372"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "1230"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen1"
#    Driver     "elo2300"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "231"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "3868"
#    Option     "MinY"          "3858"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "272"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonThreshold"       "17"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
# Monitor section
# Any number of monitor sections may be present
Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "My Monitor"
# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
    HorizSync   30-85
#    HorizSync  30-64         # multisync
#    HorizSync  31.5, 35.2    # multiple fixed sync frequencies
#    HorizSync  15-25, 30-50  # multiple ranges of sync frequencies
# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
    VertRefresh 48-120
EndSection
# Graphics device section
# Any number of graphics device sections may be present
# Standard VGA Device:
Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Standard VGA"
    VendorName  "Unknown"
    BoardName   "Unknown"
# The chipset line is optional in most cases.  It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.
#    Chipset    "generic"
# The Driver line must be present.  When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module.  Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.
    Driver     "vga"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for.  When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device.  For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used.  This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.
#    BusID      "PCI:0:10:0"
#    VideoRam   256
#    Clocks     25.2 28.3
EndSection
# Device configured by xorgconfig:
Section "Device"
    Identifier  "** Intel i810 (generic)               [i810]"
    Driver      "i810"
    VideoRam    8192
    # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection
# Screen sections
# Any number of screen sections may be present.  Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen.  A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "** Intel i810 (generic)               [i810]"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"
    DefaultDepth 24
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection
# ServerLayout sections.
# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present.  Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised.  A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option.  In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.
Section "ServerLayout"
# The Identifier line must be present
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"
# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens.  The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen.  In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.
    Screen "Screen 1"
# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used.  Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
# Section "DRI"
#    Mode 0666
# EndSectionIf I use the Xsun server, everything works great. I get 1024x768 at 85Hz. With Xorg, I get 1024x768 at 60Hz. Why won't Xorg drive the display at a decent refresh rate?
Thanks.

I upped the log verbosity on Xorg and checked the Xorg.0.log file. I found some interesting things.
First, I found this line:
(II) I810(0): Will use BIOS call 0x5f05 to set refresh rates for CRTs.
Later on, I found these:
(WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 not supported.
(II) I810(0): BIOS call 0x5f05 not supported, setting refresh with VBE 3 method.
(WW) I810(0): Set VBE Mode rejected this modeline.
Trying standard mode instead!
Presumably, "standard mode" is an eye-watering 60Hz.
This is on a Dell Optiplex GX260 with BIOS revision A09. The video chipset is an onboard Intel 82845 and the driver is Xorg's i810.
Everything works fine with Sun's X server. I get a nice 87Hz refresh at 1024x768. I'm surprised that Xorg can't set the refresh on this machine. It's listed as Test Suite Level 2 certified in the HCL. Unless somebody can tell me what I'm doing wrong here, I'm going to post this incompatibility as a comment on the HCL.

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    My Viewsonic also connected by VGA, no problem.
    I wish I knew more. I checked out the app you did a trial of. I noticed this statement on their web site:  Quote
    "After rebooting monitor stays blank
    For some reason your monitor does not accept the installed frequency. SWITCH IT OFF!"
    This is the type of statement that would 'worry me.' -- having the phrase: SWITCH IT OFF! all in caps seems to imply a possibility of damage...which I mentioned in my initial post. (and the site goes on to talk about how you should even then connect another monitor to change the settings you've made that were not accepted).
    As I said, though, I wish I knew more for sure about this. It seems that you not only did the obvious of checking System Peferences>Display, but also realize the Viewsonic has buttons that can influence it's screen image, most about position of the image on the screen but at least one item about resolution on mine. (under Setup Mode)
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    Mac G3/G4/G5 - up to 1280 x 1024, 1280x720 (preferred)
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    Or, from the numbers, perhaps the G4 just wants a resolution closest to it's preferred state!?
    Anyhow, good luck.

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    Last edited by noMaster (2009-09-13 18:41:39)

    its not a stupid question when it comes to me
    rebooted several times.
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  • [SOLVED] Refresh rate, nvidia and Quake Live

    I need help setting my monitor to 120HZ for 640*480, i have no idea how to do this using xorg.conf or nvidia-settings... nvidia-settings only shows as high as 85hz for this resolution. I'm not gonna be mean and say how simple doing this is in windows(guess i just did) Sorry ^^.
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    Last edited by yumyum (2011-01-27 16:44:43)

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        VendorName     "Unknown"
        ModelName      "Unknown"
        HorizSync       30.0 - 110.0
        VertRefresh     50.0 - 150.0
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        Driver         "nvidia"
        VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
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        Identifier     "Screen0"
        Device         "Device0"
        Monitor        "Monitor0"
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            Depth     1
            Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
            Depth     4
            Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
            Depth     8
            Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
            Depth     15
            Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
            Depth     16
            Modes "1680x1050" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1200x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
            Depth     24
            Modes "1680x1050" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1200x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
            Depth     32
            Modes "1680x1050" "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1200x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
    EndSection
    I guess this the price to pay dealing with Arch : you're always up to date, but the update often breaks something that just worked fine.
    Hope someone has an idea.
    Thanks/

    yaourt -Syu of system messed up my nvidia or/and xorg.conf settings also. Now I can not choose 1680x1050 resolution for my 22"LCD, nvidia-settings would let me choose higher ones and lower ones but not the right one.  Having only one screen and until this setting up xorg.conf have not taken that long.
    [EDIT] Downgrading xorg-server and xorg-server-utils solved the issue for me, only had to to change refresh rate at nvidia-settings.
    Last edited by mapr (2009-04-09 14:53:47)

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