Xorg-utils (or xorg-apps) split up

Hello,
why was the xorg-utils (or xorg-apps) package split up in ~30 single packages?
IMO it's totally dumb. These are all sometimes useful tools. Now I have to install each one by hand.
They're not even in a group or similar. I think package splitting is now going way too far. It maybe useful for docs, etc, but now????
Vlad
Last edited by DonVla (2010-10-29 14:58:17)

Those applications have been split for years, ever since Xorg was forked from XFree86.
Its just Arch that had a joined package for them til late.
The Debian inspired naming is horrible btw.
edit: OK its not worst than KDE's split packages naming which was probably done that way cause pacman doesnt support groups in split packages and the each and every one had to use the module name (?), but still its absolutely uneeded.
The reasoning given which is to describe the package better (or something to that extend) can be said for any package.
For example why isnt rarian callled gnome-rarian like bdftopcf is called xorg-bdftopcf?
This is a rhetorical question, i know the answer is "cause Jan likes it that way"
Last edited by dolby (2010-10-29 16:26:21)

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