XT750Gb + SATA II 128Gb SSD DIY Fusion Drive setup in Early 2011 MBP

So I have these two drives- a Momentus XT750Gb Hybrid Drive, and a 128GB SSD. I had planned on using them as separate drives, with the 128SSD in the optical bay, but recently I've been reading about Fusion Drives, and I was wondering if anyone had used this configuration in a Macbook Pro. I realize that the hybrid nature of the XT750Gb means that it is optimized for use as a boot drive, but is there any reason why it shouldn't be used as outlined above? I plan on making a clean install, and I realize I'll have to get into terminal, although I'm not overly happy about that- this is not my area of expertise at all-
If anyone has any observations or opinions, I'd be glad to hear them-
I've searched for this particular topic, but nothing specific has come up-
Thank you-
joe

Thank you-
I think SATA II speeds might be adequate for my needs- much faster than the stock HDD, and the OS, Program and file handling capabilities of the Fusion Drive setup might be worth it. I guess I'll just have to try it, see if it works at all...
Of course, the speed gain is important, but perhaps only if long term reliability is maintained-
Thanks again-
j

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