XZ-1 Orange color not accurate?

Question

Hi,
I just searched the forum, nobody seems to raise this issue yet.
I have an Olympus XZ-1, after I use Lightroom 6.4 RC for a few days, I realize that the orange color developed in RAW is noticibly different from the Jpeg color. At beginning, I thought was a difference due to the saturation and special "olympus color".
But after a careful examination, I realize the olympus color is accurate compares to the real thing, the RAW seems a bit off.
I took an example to illustrate this.
This is the JPEG version, notice the cap of the creme is orange. This color looks very close to the real thing.
This is developed in Lightroom with default setting, the cap looks yellowish.
The difference is quite huge, I need to set the yellow hue to -60 to roughly match the jpeg.
Just for an extra confirmation, the one above is developed from RAW using the default setting of Capture One. The cap color looks the same as the JPEG and the real thing.
This happens in all kind of lighting situations, might not be the white balance problem.
Can anyone have a look into this? The orange just looks like yellow.
Regards,
Luke

Answer 1

With the Adobe Standard profile, Adobe's job is not trying to duplicate camera processing in P mode as you say.  It is going for a look that is consistent across all the camera brands and models it has dealt with over the years, and historically probably geared toward commercial magazine and catalog print output where clothing colors being correct for the end consumer are the most important, so using Adobe Standard probably won't produce images like the in-camera JPGs.
For Canon and Nikon cameras and a very few others, Adobe makes some effort to replicate in-camera JPG processing with additional "camera-match" profiles.  Because your camera is from a less common manufacturer, Adobe has chosen not to produce camera-matching profiles for it, and you're left to beg from others or create your own with third-party color-targets and software.
You will find that producing your own color profiles with an x-rite color checker passport may also not match the in-camera JPG, since you're not involving JPGs in the process, only RAWs converted to DNG.  But it should make the colors look more correct as far as the original scene, to the extent that using a 18-color-patches + 6 grays can cover the full spectrum of color, and this correctness may or may not be right for a particular scenario.
I helped with a wedding last summer and dutifully took a few shots of the color checker at various points in the church to get the mixture of daylight, artificial light, and a touch of multi-colored stained-glass coloring things here and there.  However, I ended up using Adobe's Camera-Standard (camera-match) profile for my Canon DSLR, because my own custom profiles brightened the colors too much.
Specifically, the church had neutral-colored walls along the sides, and various colors of artificial high-pressure lighting overhead, and one set of bulbs in particular had an ugly yellowish cast, so wherever this artificial lighting was close to the wall, there was a yellowish area compared to the more bluish diffused daylight elsewhere.  For this particular shoot, it was more important to minimize the saturation of this ugly yellow area than it was the have all the colors correct.
I was able to almost neutralize the yellowish areas by selective HSL adjustments in LR where by using the Camera-Standard profile there was less of this color to remove so it was easier.  Had I not taken so many pictures, and had more time to experiment, I might have found a set of tweaks to the RGB adjustment sliders beneath my own custom profile would have also minimized the yellowish area, but I spent my time perfecting various things for each photo, rather than perfecting the color profile for all of them.  In this photoshoot, having the correct colors was less important than having pleasing photos.
Most of my photos are natural scenes, outdoors so I almost always prefer my own custom profile(s) for these.