Yamaha Promix 01 & logic 8

Hi
Ok i'm thinking about getting my hands on a Yamaha Promix 01
Does anyone know if this can be set up via midi with Logic 8
I know it wont be a case of plug n play & i'll probably have to tinker with the settings learn controller ETC thats not a problem
I just need to know it is possible
it must be easier than setting up an 02R v1 or is it ?
Thanx

Wow, a Pro Mix 01.... I used to use one of these in a live setup years ago (with Logic 2). I remember building my own elaborate environment that controlled everything in a live band scenario. It was awesome at the time... running it with a MOTU midi express and my faithful Powerbook 520, with expanded 20 meg of RAM and 160 meg HD.
Had all the vocals and their effects all midi controlled and set up from Logic. This is before laptops could really do the audio thing.
I'd sure do it different now if I were doin' the gig thing.

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