Yet another boot problem

I swear this piece of crap is inches from the dumpster.  I have spent the last week fixing problems that I thought I had already fixed.
The latest is that I am back to taking about 5 minutes to boot up.  It hangs right after listing the BIOS version but before finding the processor, then it hangs again between the windows logo and the desktop.  This appears to occur regardless of whether there are usb devices attached, so it's different from the last bott problem we all had.
This started with a black screen of death, which I fixed using anakin's (i think?) solution.  As anakin suggested I reinstalled the drivers i could find directly from MSI's site, not thru Live Update. I then went to nvidia, and got the vga drivers.  The first few times I booted, I thought I was home free when it came right up like old times, now here i am again.
Questions:
1. What do I look for to identify the hangs at those times during boot?
2. Can someone give me the correct driver versions so I can be sure I didn't pull the wrong ones?
3.  Slightly unrelated-  should I uninstall Live Update, as I have no need for it to give me drivers that cause these problems?
as always, thanks in advance

Now it doesn't shut down at all. Hoo-freakin'-ray!
I have been at a wedding drinking for several hours, so at least I'm jovial about it now. However right before I left, I rebooted, everything came up beautifully, but when I went to shut down, i got more hang time than michael jordan.  the beauty part is, do you want to know the changes I made? Abso-f'ing-lutely nothing.  In other words, having changed no settings/drivers/etc., my problem went from no boot, to no shut down.  MSI should go f itself as often as possible.
I can solve all of these issues with enough diligence. What irks me is the fact that I have spent the last week trying to fix a problem that changes with the breeze.  Who was the idiot at MSI that said "yup, this is the best we can do. ship 'em!"
Now that I have ranted, does anyone else have a shutdown problem?

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