Yet another dimension of Yahoo IMAP suckage

Just when I thought I'd had all the frustration I can handle with the terrible integration of IMAP support for Yahoo accounts (and as stated before I really have no idea if the problem resides with AT&T/Yahoo or Palm), I discovered today that there's yet another possible weirdness that can happen -- duplication of the entire inbox. What I had happen multiple times is that a new message would come in, and when it went to fetch it, it would also fetch all email again from the last 7 days (the cutoff I have set, because as often as I have problems and have to delete the account, there's no point loading any more than that), such that I had 2 copies of every message. Then if I manually refresh (sometimes I had to leave the inbox and go back, sometimes not) it would properly remove the duplicates and set the message count correctly again.
Here's the part that has to be a bug on the Pre, well-documented on this forum by now -- every time this happened, even once the message count was back to the proper value, the disk space used for email grew. So those duplicate messages were being orphaned in /var/luna/data/emails every time, taking away valuable application space made critically important by the failure/extreme delay in addressing the app space limitation issue.
I have no idea if it's done doing this yet. I just sent a test message and it didn't happen that time. I have already deleted and re-added the account once and it happened again twice after that, so it's not some weirdness with the account unless it recreated itself again right away.
We really ought to be past this type of issue by now. IMAP email is not exactly brand new technology, and plenty of folks are having issues with POP as well. We ought to be reaching a point of maturity in WebOS and the core applications that makes it a solid foundation on which to add features and develop apps for. But it's just not. Every new update, while it fixes some things, breaks others, and some of these systemic and long-standing issues have yet to be addressed (again, except for the disk space growth, I don't know for sure that the Pre is doing anything wrong, but that alone is still a huge issue that doesn't seem like it would be hard to pinpoint). I said from the beginning I was willing to wait for this phone to grow into its potential, and I still am, but I expected more progress by now.
-- robert
Post relates to: Pre p100eww (Sprint)

Just an update. The loading of duplicate messages appears to have stopped, at least for now, but things are still not working normally. Some messages are simply missed until I do a manual refresh. In other words, say I get message A at 1pm. I can see it in my inbox via webmail, but it's not on the Pre. Then I get message B at 1:30. I see it after message A in my inbox in webmail, but on the Pre, I get a notification for B, and see B in my inbox, but A is not there until I do a manual refresh, and at that point the order even on the Pre confirms that A arrived first. This has happened twice this afternoon, and I can't say as I've every seen that behavior prior to today. I really am beginning to wonder if email is ever going to work properly on this thing...
-- robert

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I found several references to IMAP support by Yahoo
about a year ago (imap.next.mail.yahoo.com,
imap.mail.yahoo.com) that worked for a while and then
stopped, presumably because of the resources required
to support that protocol on top of pop. Then, with
their offer of IMAP access to even free Yahoo acounts
because of Apple, I read somewhere the new server was
imap.apple.mail.yahoo.com. Problem is, it only works
IF you use the Yahoo configuration option in Mail
settings. If you use a regular IMAP configuration
option, it does not work. (Why would I want to use
Other? Because I dont want the @yahoo.com as the
reply-to address).
So, it seems that behind the scenes, the iPhone is
configuring to the correct (and unknown to us) Yahoo
IMAP server OR it is embedding some sort of
prefix/suffix to our IDs that authorize it to log on
to the Yahoo IMAP server ONLY if you use the iPhone
configuration tool. I am speculating. Any thoughts?
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Tried exporting a batch of images as JPEGs at the 50% original size setting.
Okay.
The master files are large 16 bit TIFF images from Nikon D800 RAW files, post-processed in Nik HDR Efex Pro 2
Not relevant.
They are 80-100MB in size.
Not relevant either.
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That's the nature - and indeed the point - of Jpegs.
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columbus new boy wrote:
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