Yet another K7N2 DELTA-L prob

*sighs*
bought this board about 7 months ago, never had any probs... then out of the blue or blue screen of death i should say, my comp keeps resettings itself when playing cpu and graphic card intensive programs (battlefield 1942 being the best example)
I tested and retested the ram, memtest86 reported it as passing all tests over a 4 hour period.
ok so i tried changeing the ratio of the ram to 1.1 same result still crashes.
tried relaxing ram timings.... SAME PROB
tried the ram in every different slot same prob..... its A-DATA 512mb pc3200
what i find so odd is it has been functional for so long, so i came to the conclusin its NOT the ram...
mmkay so how about conflicting drivers? seemed reasonable to me.
tried messing with drivers, all of a sudden i seemed to have cured the problem...
then BHAM its back.... FFS
ive read that people with msi k7n2`s had been suffering similar probs so i thought to myself ok...
perhaps its the nforce drivers conflicting with something.
sometimes on the bsod i get a nv4_something or other driver error i dont remember bt i know it was a geforceFX friver file, so i figure perhaps its my geforcefx drivers, so i tried the drivers that came with my MSI geforce fx 5600 (256mb) still... same prob....
then i thought.... O.k so maybe i should up/lower my ram voltages etc... no luck there either, tried it on the agp card aswell no luck. (did the same with the timings aswell)
So.... if anyone has any ideas let me know please because im coming to the end of mt tether i came THIS close to putting my foot through the computer and im deadly serious....
frustration.

I forgot that bit after I saw Wonka's post recommending memtest and reading throught he rest...seems I was brainwashed
Subliminal mind erase technique, I'll have to remember that one
Well then seems like the PSU might be taking a dump on you...if it decides to let loose it could decide to wipe it's backside with the rest of your hardware....

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Another K7N2 Delta reset issue

After having a good look through the forum today I believe this will be an all too familiar issue.
Recently purchased K7N2 Delta (not the ILSR) along with XP 2500 Barton and 512mb PC3200 Kingston RAM. Put all of the kit together with no real problems (apart from the frightening ammount of pressure I had to apply to the Aero 7 screwdriver clip to get it to lock onto the mount). Installed Windows XP Pro SP1 with no problems installed all of the updated drivers with the MSI update util and installed the most recent certified driver for the vid card from Nvidia homepage.
PC booted OK changed FSB to 166 in order to recognise the XP2500 installed MSI CPU monitoring software. CPU temp in BIOS around 38C, and from software approx 40C (idle). All looked great!
However, I then installed No One Lives Forever 2 set all the details to high (OK on my old PIII 700) and when I attepmted to run the game PC reset itself (as if the reset button has been pressed). Tried it again on low detail setting the game ran for a bit longer (approx 1 min) and then reset again.
An error is reported in the Event log (event ID 1003 source system error) I have checked this on Technet and it appears to be a generic hardware error.
So I think it may be 1 of 3 things.
1. Cr@p PSU (I will add the details below)
2. Dodgy/incompatible memory (I have heard that the Kingston can be a bit hit and miss with this chipset.
3. Overheating CPU. I was a little bit stingy when applying the Coolermaster Premium Thermal paste, but all of the monitors a reporting that the CPU is relatively cool.
Details of the PSU are as follows..
Eagle 350W. Mod DR-b350ATX (supplied with case)
+3.3v - 28a
+5v - 35a
+12v - 16a
-5v - 0.3a - 1.5w
-12v - 0.8a - 9.6w
+5vsb - 2a - 10w
I am leaning towards a weedy PSU but some advice would be great! Thankyou for your time.
IllPhil.

Right. Ive just checked the cooler and it appears to be mounted the right way round (clip on the outside of the Motherboard and looks flush with the cpu).
I did however change the FSB/DRAM ratio from By SPD to 1:1 and this appears to have done the trick. POST now reports 'DRAM clock for DDR 333' and NOLF2 loaded with highest detail settings and played without a hitch for about 1/2 hour. Also tested OK with BurnTest and 3dMark2003 (p!ss poor score of 1699 though but ill have to tinker with the driver and maybe overclock a bit to get that up). So it looks like you hit the nail on the head their Wonk. Could you recommend some stress testing software I could try so I can give it a good soak test?
Oh and I almost forgot the PSU combined wattage figures are 200w, 192w and 330w.
Thanks again.
IllPhil

MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR probs. And Hello.

Why has it taken me so long to find these forums? I've had my mainboard for 2-3 years now and have had absolutely no trouble with it until now, so maybe that's why I haven't found you. But now I have, wow, thanks for being here Hello everybody.
So begins my tale of woe. Last week and for about 6 months before that, I had a lovely Radeon X800XL pumping away in my (old, and it will be replaced, but not yet cos I can't afford to) rig, making my fave game ever, World of warcraft, look gorgeous. Then, one morning, my lovely grafs card died on me. Don't know why, no warning, no goodbye, it just passed away in the night.
Full of panic, and not knowing what was wrong, I moved the jumpers to reset the bios. Eventually realising the problem was the card, I borrowed one while I waited for my X1950 to arrive.
Anyway, once I had borrowed the temp card and got my system running again, I went to reset the bios. I haven't been into the bios much since I built the machine, so I'm a bit sticky with the settings. As far as I can remember, the fsb should be set to 200 and cpu speed to X11. I do remember that there wasn't much else that I adjusted when I built it (my first build ever), and my XP 3200+ has been running quite smoothly at 2.19Ghz for at least the last two years.
I don't half go on. don't I. Here, I'll cut to the chase. This is my problem.
When I try setting fsb/cpu speed, 200/X11. my comp won't get to POST, I just hear a bleep (as opposed to the friendly blip when it works) and have to turn off at the back, reset the bios and start again.
Setting to fsb200/auto, results in clock speed of 2300. Comp will boot into windows, but is very unstable.
I have set fsb166/auto and am at present running at 1.91GHz and my processor is being recognised as a 2600+
I surely must have overlooked some basic setting in the bios, but I really can't remember what.
Oh bios is: Phoenix-Award v.6 00PG
W6570NMS V7.8 080204
Please help me, this comp has got to last me til next year.

Quote from: karansar on 06-February-07, 08:05:36
It was bought and has been running and recognised as a 3200+ for the last 2+ years. Only today is the first time it has ever been seen as a 2600+
When I first set it up, all that time ago, I did everything correctly and by the books, instruction manual, internet etc. I really wanted to get it right, and did. I think the main problem lies with me and MY memory. I honestly think it is a 3200 Boss.
"It was bought and has been running and recognised as a 3200+ for the last 2+ years."
that depend how to be setuped via BIOS. if your CPU is running at 11.5 as Auto multiplier you should have 2600+.(11.5x166) 3200+ rated chip got 11 Multi and NOT 11.5 which your CPU has been detected in Auto. seems you have OC your CPU to run at 3200+ freq.
look here how to ID your CPU:
grab CBI --> http://cbid.amdclub.ru/files/cbid82b.zip
execute it and look for CPU OPN number.
then fill OPN code here to gain informaton:
http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/amd_product_id.html

K7N2 Delta ISLR and XP3200 Woes

Let me share some of my experience with random crashes and lock ups on my main system.
Hopefully some might find it helpful and others might have useful comments to add.
It all started when I decided to upgrade my system. I waited until new technology was announced and then went out and bought the hardware that was knocked off the top spot.
My current system is:
Althon XP3200 Barton
1Gig PC3200 (2x512M)
K7N2 Delta ISLR Bios 7.7
Radeon 9700pro
Antec TruePower 550W PSU
XP Professional
SATA 120G Barracuda
When I first assembled the system I could not, and still cannot, get it to run stable as a XP3200 with a FSB of 200MHz (400MHz) and the memory in dual channel mode. The system wouldn’t boot, would randomly crash, would come up with fatal XP errors.
So after consulting the message boards I was informed it was probably be down to two causes; a inadequate power supply or overheating.
That is when I went out and bought the Antec TruePower 550W PSU. The reason being the CPU temperature was around 47C - 52C (107F - 115F) with ambient around 35C (88F). Not too hot I thought.
Anyway this did not solve the problem so I then decided to change the CPU coolers. I now have a nice collection, Alaska, Aero, Gigabyte and others. Current one on order is SLK-900A with a delta FFB0912EHE fan. But again this did not solve the problem.
I then thought that maybe the ambient inside temperature was too high and therefore pushing the CPU temperature up. To solve this I fitted two hard-drive fans, four 80mm case fans and a PCI exhaust fan. This was on top of the 3 fans already in the system. Still the system would not run. I even took the side panel off and had a 6” mains fan blowing into the case. Still couldn’t make it stable.
I have just ordered a Thermaltake Wingo V8000A case.
So I decided to check out the XP3200 and memory. After playing around I found out that:
1. The memory is fine running dual channel at 400MHz. I ran memtest using my CPU and memory in a friends PC for 12 hours without any problems (Abit board).
2. The system is stable if I drop the FSB to the processor to 166MHz (333MHz). How I am currently run the machine.
3. The system was more stable if I ran the memory in single channel mode.
4. The point it becomes unstable is when the CPU FSB is 192MHz (384Mhz).
5. The problem occurs on another K7N2 Delta ISLR motherboard. Actually exactly the same problem running a different XP3200 and 1Gig.
I have tried all possible combinations in the bios, except Vcore, Vddim voltage levels. Which is my next step. I think I need to up the Vcore at higher frequencies as I believe it may be a bios /motherboard inherent problem.
I hope this might be helpful to some who are experiencing the sample problems.
Couple of things I don’t like about the mother generally a part from the fact I can’t set it up correctly.
1. The decoupling capacitors around the CPU socket are too close. This limits the choice of CPU coolers you can fit.
2. Motherboard components interfere / prevent you from fitting certain cards in the PCI slots. Such as the SPDF adapter that comes with the motherboard.
And does anyone know:
1. What is the maximum temperature I should be seeing for stable operation on a XP3200?
2. Any recommendations on another suitable motherboard? I basically spent all the money I had so if I can’t get it working I’ll bin the motherboard and buy another one.
Oh, why don't I run it at 333MHz? Well then I got a slower system than I started with and it means I admit defeat!

I have this same board with the same BIOS and am also using an Athlon XP 3200+ (with Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 RAM) and had the same excruciating stability problems. I had tried/tested everything in sight and no stability. Then I found a posting in this forum made a few months back by WebFan (with an XP 3200+ and basically the same RAM), who said he had the same kind of problem. He had only achieved stability when he reduced the FSB setting to 192 MHz (obviously not a coincidence). (Thank you ever so much WebFan.) I reached the heaven of stability by making the same change. Then I started experimenting; I moved the bus speed to 193, still okay. I set the RAM settings to the 3-3-6 2.5 that Corsair says are stable, still okay.
Then, and this I believe is the key step, I installed the lastest set of chipset drivers from nVidia (not the older version provided by MSI). This change subjectively seemed to improve performance noticeably, so I decided to take the big plunge and return the FSB to the rated 200 MHz setting. It's only been three days, but STILL OKAY! Before setting the FSB to 192, I was having all kinds of blue-screen crashes numerous times a day. I haven't had a single one in ten days, three days running at the full 200 MHz.
It seems to me that the board/chipset were not tuned to handle the 3200+. If you look at the description of the board on the MSI global site, it says it's compatible with Athlon XP 3000+ and up. My guess is that only the lastest edition of the drivers, version 4.24/4.27, is up to the job. (I'm not interested in overclocking and so haven't been interested in seeing if I can do better than the rated 200 MHz setting [400 MHz DDR clock speed]. Leave well enough alone, if you ask me.)
Try them; you have nothing to lose but your instability.

K7n2 delta lsr + 3000XP prob

i just bought:
msi kt7n2 delta lsr
512 pc2900
3000XP
450w power supply
winXP
i cannot run the processr at 166mhz otherwise windows either brings up the error send report where it closses the application OR windows just restarts without warning.
my brother just bought the same set up aswell (he had his for crimbo) and hes got the same prob, except when he turns the speed to 166mhz, when windows goes to start he gets a BSOD, so i figure no biggy, just repair windows, as i go to do this before the installation or any questons are asked, he gets yet another BSOD and this happens everytime.
ive been ****ing round with bios options for a while but i aint very good at that ****.
and im running a ti4800 nVidia
i dont know wether to upgrade the bios because
A: i have never upgraded a bios before
and
B: if i were to take the board back hed probaly blame it on me for pratting around with it
so, what you guys reckon, i noticed in one of the topics that 400mhz ram would be needed for a 3000XP upgrade ?

The problems your having can be caused by power supply, memory compatiblitly and a few outer things.
List your power supply amps for 3.3 volt, 5 volt and 12 volt.
The ram is PC2700 it is 333 FSB ram your processor is a 400 FSB processor.
So you have created one problem there. Try running ram as single channel to see if it helps with stablity. Set ram speed to 333 FSB.
Or better yet buy some ram that is on the list of compatible ram 2-256 of PC3200 DDR is plenty of ram for games and programs and will keep price down.
Memory that is matched for Dual Channel will also help.
The newest Bios for the K7N2 Delta ILSR is 7.6 it may help with some ram problems but will not fix the FSB difference.

K7n2 delta probs pls help / german forum is down so i try here

hi there
i just bought an msi k7n2 delta but i got a few probs. i also bought an athlon xp 2500+ with barton die
so now mz problem i am using the amd boxed cooler and i got a idle temp of 30 degree or 29 this is not normal can t be with this crab of cooler and this processor how does this come
other problem is after i am changing something in bios or it happen without changing to mz processor is autodetected bz the bios as 1100 mhz how come
i reallz dont know what to do ply help me and give me answers
thanks cman

The AMD stock cooler are not to bad and will perform almost as good as a branded 3rd party cooler, as long as you dont overclock they perform well with the specs. A review was done on TomsHardware for the AMD coolers. The BIOS version probably reading the CPU temp wrong. This is a known problem. Can be up to -10 deg from true temp.
As for the CPU speed you need to change the FSB to 166.

USB Prob. MSI Nforce K7n2 Delta-IL part# 6729

hello people,
first of all what the hell is the K7n2 Delta-IL part# 6729???
it seems that my dealer gave an oem product. is this right?
i cant find that motherboard on the msi site at all.
second: i am not able to install usb since there is no usb driver on the cd which came with the board. there is only a english version but i need the german version.
i installed msi live monitor and updatet the latest nvidia driver version with no luck. i am downloaded the driver from the nvidia site with no luck.
so i guess the usb is from a 3. party company and i just need to know what it is.
i find this really really strange especialy i bought 6 boards!!!
please help
thanx alot

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Originally posted by wonkanoby
if xp or 2000 they are in service packs
yes they are oem boards,i would back it as bios updates will be very scarce
i have a german oem xp home incl. service pack 1
and all updates from the microsoft page. usb is still yellow :(
damn
this sux

1st boot probs with k7n2 delta ilsr

1st build, 1st boot error
NVIDIA Boot Agent, PXE-2.0 (build 082 V1.82)
PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable
PXE-M0F: Exiting NVIDIA Boot Agent.
DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER
i have a k7n2 delta ilsr
amd athlon xp 2500+ 1.83ghz 333 fsb
maxtor diamondmax+9 120 gb sata
kingston ddr333 pc2700 cl 2.5
sapphire radeon 9700 pro atlantis 128 mb ddr
if anyone can help i would greatly appreciate it!

Quote
1st build, 1st boot error
NVIDIA Boot Agent, PXE-2.0 (build 082 V1.82)
PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable
PXE-M0F: Exiting NVIDIA Boot Agent.
DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER
i have a k7n2 delta ilsr
amd athlon xp 2500+ 1.83ghz 333 fsb
maxtor diamondmax+9 120 gb sata
kingston ddr333 pc2700 cl 2.5
sapphire radeon 9700 pro atlantis 128 mb ddr
if anyone can help i would greatly appreciate it!
You first need to make sure you have the promise controller drivers installed for it to recognize the hard drive. The system should have came with a floppy disk with the drivers on it........Make sure your boot order is floppy drive/cdrom drive/sata/scsi........boot to the XP cd after you have the sata controllers installed......then run the XP disk setup partion/format/install.........after installation you can set boot order as sata/scsi as first boot device.

K7N2 delta prob

Hi i build my computer on a msi k7n2 delta L. My problem i can't instal the motheboard driver because when i install them i lost the sound from my audigy i try the Real tek pacth but that change nothing i dont get any sound.Do you have a solutions to this because thaht ****** me to dont have good driver install on my computer and cant use usb.

disable on board sound in intergrated periphals
and why install that cards drivers before the motherboards ones any way

Another help request for K7N2-delta

I was trying to overclock my memory and when my system rebooted after saving my settings in the bios, I just get a black screen. On the D-bracket, the top two are red and hangs there, which, according to the manual, means that either my processor is damaged or not installed properly.
I tried rebooting in safe mode by changing my J10 jumper and clearing the cmos but to no avail. Could I have damaged my CPU just by changing a setting?
Specs:
CPU: AMD Athlon Barton 2500+
Motherboard: K7N2 Delta-ILSR
Video card: Saphire Radeon 9600 Pro 256 mb AGP
RAM: Corsair Value Select, PC2700, 256mb, 512 mb, and 1 gb of RAM.
Hard drive 1 & 2: Seagate, 120gb, ATA100
Hard drive 3: Western Digital, 500gb, ATA100
Windows XP SP2
Powersupply: Antec TruePower, 430w (3.3v/28a, 5v/36a, 12v/20a)

Quote from: Stu on 18-February-08, 02:21:22
Guys, the Insert key reset was for the K7N2-Delta2 series, which didn't have the safemode FSB jumper, it does not apply to the K7N2 Delta
You're asking for trouble by a) using cheap value-branded RAM, and b) mixing sticks of different sizes
Also you always get best results by running memory clock at same speed as CPU FSB clock.
Take out all the sticks of RAM and have just one installed, then see if it will start up again
I read a review of how well this memory overclocks, so I thought I'd give it a shot. Also, the value-brand for Corsair is rated just under their XMS series; it's solid as far as I can tell.
Anywho, I've always had the 256mb one in the slot ever since the incident anyways. Thanks for the warning, I never knew mixing different sizes had negative effects.
Quote from: Maxwell Smart on 18-February-08, 02:18:35
I own this board... it's not the insert key, but rather the delete key... so yes, as soon as your pc boots up, hit the delete key repeatedly (or hold it down) and then it will let you go into the BIOS.
I'll try that once I get home. Thanks for the info!
Quote from: HenryW on 18-February-08, 03:01:23
"I was trying to overclock my memory..."
There is a miss-print in your manual for the CPU D-LED, I had the same in my K7N2G-ILSR manual.
So it's stuck at the hard drive or at the system power on? I'm assuming the latter since my hard drive shouldn't be having any problems.
Yea, I don't know what I was thinking when I decided to try this. This is what I get for it, I guess.

K7N2 Delta problem

Hey all,
Ive used a K7N2 Delta board for about a year with now probs at all... until now. Couple days ago i decided a new case was in order, i purchased case went home and transfered all the components over, as it was i was changing a few parts too so i decided to go with a rebuild followed by a format/reinstall to start a fresh.
I put pc together, reinstalled windows xp pc booted fine, then i spent the next 30 mins or so installing all the programs i normally use. This pc is 1 of 2 i use and is lower spec as i only use it for work purposes, i use 2 graphice cards in it for dual monitor, a geforce mx 400(agp slot) and a tnt 32 something (pci slot) after doing a bit of installing i went to the bios, the pc was booting using the lower card as pri display, all i wanted and all i did was change the first display in the bios to AGP. I hit F10 to save and restart... and nothin pc hasnt done a thing since.
I get no warning beeps at all when i try to power up, although the power lights are on and cpu/system fans run. I checked the D-bracket, the code it goes to as soon as you power up and it stays there is'Initializing Hard Drive Controller' I aint no wizard when i come to fixing or building pcs but as a DIY'er i still think i hold my own, ive done or tried everything i can think off... clear cmos, change battery, remove components, change components, ive tried to boot with nothin connected to everything connected, board wont even beep, just get same d-bracket message everytime, im under the impression that a new board is needed but i thought i'd post here in the slight chance someone might have a idea, or maybe able to tell me something i havent thought of.
thanks

Ive done everything described above, and redone it just to make sure lol Not being one to quit easily ive been messing around with the board, now im starting to think there maybe some life left in it after all, first off if i remove the memory it now signals the warning beep, something i wasnt doing, also the d-bracket code has changed, its now hanging on 'memory detection test' i know this memory is good, plus ive tried another module in with same results. Yet another strange thing, when i try to boot up with a xp2000 (also tried a xp1700) within a few seconds it shuts down, but if i try my 1300 duron and change mhz to suit even though im not getting anywhere near actually booting, it atleast stays on giving the memory code. Ive been told, dont know if this is right, that if i take the bios chip out of the board for 24 hrs it will reset the bios back to factory setting (bios has been flashed a couple times but not recently) any one know if this might help, or even if this will work? This board acting strange, bit of a mystery goin on ere lol any more suggestions?
thanks again
shaun

MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR Dead? Help!

Hey all,
Well, the other day I was on my computer playing a game when my mobo fan started making an odd noise (as if switching rpm), so I took off the side of my case and took a look inside. Everything seemed to be functioning properly, then I switched my cpu fan speed via the pci slot speed control. As I switched from High-Medium-Low, I noticed that the fan actually slowed to the point where I could see the blades spinning, at least for a second or so. I found that rather odd, seeing as how I've never seen a fan (especially a cpu fan) slow to the point that I could see the blades spin. Anyway, a couple of hours later, I shut down and went to sleep.
The next day I had my comp on for about maybe 30mins to an hour or so when suddenly I heard an alarm from the computer speaker, so I was like, ":censored:?" since I had never heard it before. It was evidently the temperature warning, which I had set to 70C. So I shut down within 15 seconds and opened up the side of my case.
I noticed that the cpu fan wasn't moving at all (usually I'd open the case in time to see the spin-down). So I turned the computer back on and the fan didn't budge, so I immediately powered down, assuming that the CPU Fan had died. Later on, I hooked the fan itself up to a free power cord in my sister's computer and booted up, along with the speed controller, flipping from medium to high to low without any problems.
I then did screwed the fan back to the heatsink in my comp and booted up. I went into the bios an noticed that the rpm was 8k, which is way too high for my fan (normally 5k). So i began switching from high, medium, to low once again, then I saw that the rpm reader in the bios went to 0. So I looked back in the side of my case and saw that the cpu fan was once again dead. At this point I concluded that it was the fan and was about to order the Volcano 12.
A day later I placed the fan inside my sister's computer on a free cord, yet again, and yet again, it worked fine.
I once again put it in my computer to test and this time it worked fine, even while switching between speeds. Unfortunately, I then noticed that the mobo fan was not moving, then began to move.
Well, I'm guessing now that it's simply the motherboard that has a short, since both the motherboard fan as well as the cpu fan have randomly been dying the past few days. The motherboard fan; however, has switched rpm many times in the past from 5k to 3k.
It could also be a PSU problem, but I have Antec 400watt psu and it's been working fine for the past 2 years, so I doubt it. I've had the motherboard for a little over a year. I upgraded my cpu from 2200+ to 3000+ in July. That's also when I bought the cpu fan. The motherboard fan began fluctuating in rpm noticeably back in April or May of this year.
Yesterday, I used the computer again and had it on for about 2 hours or so and I had speedfan monitoring the temps and the rpm. The temps stayed relatively stable: 48 cpu, 44 mobo.
But alas, the RPMs were totally [blame me for the swear filter] up. At one point, both the mobo and cpu fan speeds were reading 0, even though both continued to spin within the case and the temps remained the same. Then after 30mins or so, they cpu fan began reading again at 40,000-42,000rpm, which is obviously incorrect, seeing as the fan is rated for around 5k. I got/get the same readings in the bios, both fans reading at 0rpm as they continue to physically spin.
Also, during a number of times that I've started up the comp within the past few days, the motherboard northbridge fan wasn't spinning at all and didn't begin to until a few minutes into my windows session.
Also, I took out the NB fan and noticed a slight crack in the back of it.
I was considering simply just buying the Volcano 12 and the MSI K7N2 Delta2 Platinum rather than RMAing the mobo. Then perhaps an Antec 550W psu, if necessary.
Any ideas what I should replace and in which order? And has anybody else encountered any similar problems with this mobo (at least with the mobo rpm, which has been a prob for about 6months on and off)?
I bought the mobo along with a 2200+ in July of 2003. I upgraded the ram from 256 to 512 in April 2004 (which is around the time I started hearing rpm probs with the mobo fan) and I upgraded the cpu in July of 2004
Many Thanks!
My Specs are as follows:
Windows XP Professional SP1
Antec SX1040B2 File Server Case
400watt Antec PSU
MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (2.17GHz)
Thermaltake TR2 M2 HSF
Kingston 256MB of PC2700 DDR-333MHz RAM
Generic 256MB of PC2700 DDR-333MHz RAM
ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro
Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS Platinum
Pioneer 10x DVD Drive
Sony 8x Double Layer DVD-+RW
Western Digital 120.0GB 7200RPM HD ATA/100
Western Digital 120.0GB 7200RPM HD ATA/100
nForce Ethernet Adapter w/Cable line
Logitech MX500 Optical Mouse
Logitech Elite Keyboard
19" Envision Monitor EN985e
Logitech Z-680 5.1 Speakers

Could be a fluctuating PSU that's breaking down power to the MB. You have a whole lot of components dragging that PSU down. With what you have in your rig I would run either an Antec or Enermax 550W. Best way to be sure is to borrow a PSU or buy one from a store with a good return policy so that you can return it if indeed it turns out to be the MB. If I don't have your board here on my bench to test the only thing I can suggest to you is to swap out components unfortunately.

K7N2 Delta-L deteriorating cmos resets

Hi
System info :
K7N2 Delta-L mobo
XP2500 Barton
2 x 256mb Samsung (Korean) PC3200
Coolermaster CP5-8JD1F-0L hsf
PNY ti4200 128mb
Maxtor 40g 7,200 hd
Pioneer DVD
LG CD-RW
2 x 80mm case fans
1st psu 400w generic
2nd psu Thermaltake 420w
All installed with first psu, and XP pro. Running no problems. Tested cpu at 11 x 200 (not straight off, gradually built up to it, watching for stability or temp problems), was running fine at stock voltages, ran 3d mark 2001 successfully. Backed things off to 10.5 x 200 to ensure stability. Re-ran 3dmark 2001, then ran prime95 overnight (8+ hours), with no problems at all. Temperatures were fine, I set the cpu temperature alarm well into the safe side in the bios (55deg). The highest cpu temperature PC Alert displayed, was 29 deg.
Updated the bios to 5.3, rebooted and checked the settings in the bios, went back into XP, no probs, re-ran 3dmark, went online, and started to play Dark Age of Camelot. After somewhere around 2 - 3 hours, the display started to "stutter", and the mouse movement became erratic. I logged off, checked PC Alert temps, all was fine, but 12v line had gone down to 11.56v. Rebooted to check the volts in the bios. They were down too, also the blue line selector had acquired a mind of its own, randomly headed anywhere when next item was selected, so I switched off, and guessing the psu to be maybe a bit inadequate, ordered the Thermaltake 420w to replace the 400w generic.
The Thermaltake arrives, install and fire up, after clearing the cmos to start again, and set up with basics. Voltages were all very satisfactory. In the meantime I had checked the cpu seating and thermal compound, and there had been no problems, and I also took the heatsink off the ti4200 to check thermal compound, cleaned and re-applied (as I did with the cpu).
On the fire up into XP, got a bsod with file corruption notice. Booted into Me install cd, formatted the drive, loaded smartdrv, and started a new XP install. The system locked up after a successful install, about 2 minutes into the worktop (went to use windows explorer to access drivers, etc., and it froze). Had to use the reset button, and it would not post. Cleared the cmos, and it posted. Reflashed the bios to 5.2 that was on the distribution cd just in case.
Since then, it has been a catalogue of failed installs, lockups and increasingly difficult clearing of the cmos. It is now at the point that a cmos clear does nothing (with the other pins at 100 and safe mode), and it fails to post. I get to the 3 lights flashing on the keyboard, and that is it.
I removed the board from the case, just in case I had hallucinated and missed a riser or something, but the risers were in the right place, and each had a fibre washer on top. Tried booting with the board out of the system, with just the cpu/hsf/memory/graphics, with no joy, also tried with a Gf 4 mx 440, and also no joy.
In retrospect, I don't think the 400w psu was too bad to drive the system, but it was worth being cautious - it has driven another system with no problems since. The cpu was performing great, as was the memory. There was no problem with the hsf or agp card. Memory was tried single stick in each memory slot (and all of it had flown through 3dmark and prime95 previously).
I am tempted to suspect something is adrift to do with the Athlon powersaving mode that has been mentioned in these forums. Other than that, there was something a bit weak on the mobo, and it has slowly bitten the dust.
Any suggestions gratefully received.

PS.
The case is one of those Superflower Midi towers, with good case volume. Airflow was quite nice with the 2 extra fans, one at front pulling in, the other at rear extracting.
The fan on top of the heatsink, is the standard Coolermaster, which overhangs the heatsink either side, with the bonus of blowing a nice airflow over the northbridge.
The 400w generic psu had 2 fans, which were also pulling a fair airflow through the case. I didn't get any indications of anything even aproaching overheating.

K7N2 Delta Only 100MHz FSB works

It's the K7N2 Delta ILSR model. I have an AMD 1800 CPU (will be getting AMD 3000 w/ 400 FSB when FedEx feels like visiting me...) As far as I know, the FSB speed should be 133MHz in BIOS. This worked fine on my previous motherboard, but now when I set it, the system will lock up once a slight load gets placed on the CPU (i.e. starting WinXP, loading setup for XP, etc). When I drop the FSB to 100MHz it doesn't lock up, but it doesn't register the CPU speed correctly (and it shouldn't..)
Any ideas on how to fix it? I have another CPU on the way but in the meantime I wanted to use this one.
It is a 350W PSU, 2x 512MB 400MHz Kingston HyperX RAM, MSI GF4 Ti4200 GPU.
Thanks for any input.

Yep, made sure the Fan/HS was on right before replacing it.
Oh well. Maybe something happened to the CPU in the brief period of time while I was switching boards, that caused it to not operate right at it's regular speed. I guess I'll know when I get my other CPU. If that does the same thing, I guess it narrows it down some.
Still haven't tested that memory yet though.

HD or Booting problem on MSI K7N2 Delta 2 Platinum

Hi all,
Ive a weird issue which i cant figure out myself. I've 2 HD's..lets call them A and B where A = 60Gb (Master) and B = 80Gb (Slave)
It's is like this:
A and B are connected to the primary IDE-slot. A will boot when set as Master and B wont start booting when set as Slave mode (i mean, it wont show/appear in the first hardware (detection) bootscreen of yer BIOS where it says its present or the so called POST-screen), but if I set B as Master only (A turned off) it will boot.
What also happens is if I disconnect the power of drive B..drive A will boot..and while OS is loaded...I turn on the powercable from drive B and reboot..suddenly out of the blue it detects both HD's and reboots like it should do normally...but when i reboot from than..the same thing happens again..(it wont recognize B anymore)
Sumtime it regonizes both drives and sumtime it just won't and sumtimes just 1 drive..
Another thing, when it won't recognize one or sumtime both drives...the POST-screen gets stuck at the name and version of the BIOS...and where it says: 'detecting IDE drives...' when it is at this stage..and I press on the DEL-key for example..it's loading damn too slow..I've to wait about 10min before it enters the BIOS-setup..
I am 100% sure I set the jumper correctly for Master or Slave mode on my HD..I know there's sumthing wrong..but don't know where...Ive changed the jumper with a new one ..switched IDE-cables...switched HD's (set B as Master and A as Slave and vice versa, knowing there is no active partition on B..but only to check if it recognizes the drive)..in all cases..the BIOS settings are set as default!
any1 can help me out with this?
It worked smoothly on my system till i noticed my second MEM bank of my mobo broke (Asus A7N8X-E)..so i had to change it quickly (and went to the store with my warranty to fix this board..it was only 3 months old) ..since I've seen/had enough Asus mobo's in my life I went this time for an MSI which looks better in my opinion...so now i have an MSI K7N2 Delta 2 Platinum..it works fine...except that HD issue mentioned above
any help would be appreciated..thnx in advance!
cheers!

Hi,
I've done that already several times...it doesnt work..any other suggestions?
Now I can boot normally when I disconnect the power of the 2nd HD (or just any HD)...when the os is loaded...I turn back on the power of the 2nd drive and reboot...than it will run/boot/restart etc..normally...this is the only workaround I have at the moment...this only works when the system is turned a long time...
My power supply is 400W..so I don't think Ive any prob with that
cheers

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