Yoga 2 Pro vs Thinkpad Tablet 2

Hi Lenovos,
I have a Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro tablet which I got as a gift and I'm rarely using it coz of the size and Android. I'm Web a Developer so to do some on-the-go coding, I thought to exchange this with a portable windows tablet and I got some offers from Thinkpad Tablet owners. Neither Thinkpad Tablet nor Yoga Tablet 2 pro are selling in my region so I dont have the proper idea about the actual region based price.
Is it worth to exchange my Yoga Tablet 2 pro with a 64GB Thinkpad tablet? I know my one has a good display and additional features such as Projector, Subwoofer, stand etc.. but what is the point if I'm not using them. If you were me, would you consider exchange this?
Regards

How about the Yoga 2 10 with Windows? Same size , boasts the same processor and RAM as the Yoga Tablet Pro 2. It has 32 Gb of internal storage, but you can add a MicroSD card for an additional 64 Gb.
The Thinkpad 2 if I'm not mistaken has a 2 year older processor (Z2760) than the Yoga Tablet's Z3745. The Z3745 processor supports 64 bit OS's and features the SSE 4.1/ SSE4.2 instruction set.
Dan

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Yea, great... it seems like these articles and suggestions come up in the forum, and then there is always someone that says "it didn't work but this solved it for me" which ammounts to setting the screen at full brightness all the time.   LENOVO, HOW ABOUT FIXING THE ISSUE!!! It definitly has something to do with power, in my case _the only_ thing that fixes it is either plugging in a power cord or closing the screen, reopening it and hitthing the power button to turn it back on (both are REALLY annoying if you're trying to get work done).
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Luffy,
While there could be other potential causes, I suspect you are seeing the effects of DPTF which reduces CPU and some other functions when in modes other than conventional laptop.
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Thinkpad Tablet 2 issues with installing Windows 8.1 Pro

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Im interested in knowing as well...... I think it is great to use bluestacks on this machine!
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indest wrote:
Cleo_Lenovo wrote:
Just would like to share my view here. Customers are always advised to use Lenovo's drivers because they have been re-packaged to fit to Lenovo machines.
At times, the Lenovo driver comes with serious bugs that never gets fixed. The trackpad and wifi driver are perfect example of such drivers. Do you know how sad it is that I am using a DELL trackpad driver on my Yoga?
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Wifi issue: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Idea-Windows-based-Tablets-and/Re-Yoga-2-Pro-Wifi-Problems/td-p/1452437 (84 pages -.-)
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I understand you and the users frustration. I agree that sometimes things just do not work as they should. Anyway, thanks for bringing up the issues. I'll need to check into the trackpad thread before escalate this case in full to engineering.
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Yoga 2 Pro: Enable keyboard in tablet mode

Hi everyone. I'm very new here. I just got my Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro i7 8GB last month. And I'm wondering if it's possible for the keyboard to be enabled while in tablet mode. Since I wanna make it as my external keyboard and I'm gonna use an external monitor for bigger screen through MicroHDMI-HDMI connection. Please let me know how to do it. I hope someone can help me here. Thank you

Thank You Indest! I can't help you as I am a linux user.
I've installed Gnome Ubuntu 14.04 on my Y2P and I'm facing the same issue as windows users.
Keyboard is disabled in tablet mode for me too. That's why I've been thinking that is because of an hardware configuration rather than software.
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Thank You Indest! I can't help you as I am a linux user.
I've installed Gnome Ubuntu 14.04 on my Y2P and I'm facing the same issue as windows users.
Keyboard is disabled in tablet mode for me too. That's why I've been thinking that is because of an hardware configuration rather than software.
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I updated my Yoga 2 Pro to Windows 10. It is working fine in Desktop mode. However in table mode when it is flipped over to tablet or tent positions the performance is very pure (slow and intermittent, broken) . Once the screen is back to the laptop position the performance is as expected.Can someone please advice how this can be fixed ? thnaks in advance.

Hi rys,This is what I have so far.A) You are not alone. I and many other have reported this problem in other threads. In all other modes than laptop mode the CPU slows down making the PC unusable in tablet or tent mode. I just recently bought the yoga 2 pro for it's tent mode so this is very frustrating.B) Problem seems to be the DPTF driver. It's job is to detect when you are in tablet or tent mode and reduce the CPU speed (a bit) to prevent over-heating. The problem is it is too aggresive slowing my CPU to .75ghz.C) One obvious solution is to disable DPTF via BIOS. Those who did report succes. There PCs are now fast in all modes. I'm hesitating ... Don't want to disable but might have to ... The effects of disabling DPTF as I understand them are: PC gets hot, shorter battery life.D) The correct solution would be a new DPTF driver for windows 10 making the CPU runs at least at 1ghz. Hoping LENOVO realizes how many YOGA 2 Pro they sold with the "feature" of being able to switch from laptop to tablet to tent modes. Hoping LENOVO comes up with a solution.

Yoga 2 Pro: Tablet mode enabled by closing the laptop and crashing minimized store apps

Since clean installing Windows 10 on my Yoga 2 Pro I'm experiencing Store apps to become a complete white useless windows after waking up the device from standby. Further investigation brought up the following perceptions:
1) This only happens with Store apps minimized to the taskbar before getting the device into standby; Win32 apps are not affected
2) This only happens if the standby is initialized by closing the laptop and NOT manually through the start menu 3) The Problem also only occurs if the machine is set up to be locked automatically after waking up (default setting in Windows 10 is not to be locked btw.)
The second one got me wondered. After some puzzling around I remembered that I - as a Windows Insider - some time ago observed that the tablet mode in Windows 10 is initialized even if the screen is almost closed. Back then I tested this also on my installation of Windows 8.1 and came to the conclusion that even there the keyboard and touchpad get disabled by nearly closing the laptop. Back then there was no tablet mode so that it was not noticeable at first sight but could be tested by using the touchpad and keyboard with the screen close to the keyboard.
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Go to Control Panel >> Device Manager
There is Sensor devices tab there.
Can you post a screenshot of how that is looking?
One thing that you can try.
Switch off your laptop.
Disconnect power supply
Press power button for 30 seconds.
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Several users have been griping about the keyboard of the Yoga 3 Pro. Also certain reviewers have lambasted it (e.g. Gizmodo).
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If you don't use Caps Lock or Print Screen for example, you can reassign them to other keys you do (e.g. Insert, or any other key actually).
The process is described in the link below, and the author has a specific example of remapping the Home/PgUp, End/PgDn keys:
http://www.thatsgeeky.com/2010/11/keyboard-annoyances/

I tried that I got some sort of error saying it's not compatible with my system. I ended up doing a restore, and one by one tracking down which program is needed in order for the system to disable the keyboard and trackpad appropriately.
It ended up being Lenovo Harmony:
http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/wwha020e.exe
It seems you need Harmony if you'd like them to be disabled in stand, tent, and tablet mode.
Thanks for the help, anyway.

Keyboard Yoga 3 pro doesnt work

hi
friday i receive my yoga 3 pro. On Saturday i start to configure it. and start to install the windows updates. after many restarts the updates were finished. then i want to start to install my programs, but the keyboard didnt work. and the notebook was very slowly! so i restart, but same problem again. i search for a solution, i only find one thread were the new graphcis driver was the fault! but windows update and i didnt install a new driver! so i recovery the system, but same problem. i can use the touchscreen keyboard and and an usb keyboard without any problems! sometimes the touchpad also didnt work!
hardware fault?
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Hello,
It's a guess, but I think it could be the Harmony software turning it off.
This software is supposed to turn off your keyboard when in tablet mode.
Can you please run it in notebook mode, make sure the Harmony software is on, rotate the screen all the way into tablet mode, switch it back to notebook mode and see if it's working. Also, please pay attention to the top right hand corner of the screen. Harmony should indicate it's changing profiles while you move the screen. If it's not- it might be the sensor that detects the position of the screen.
If that doesn't work there might be a factory fault in your unit. In that case use the warranty to have it fixed or replaced.
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After reviewing all the posts, I see there are two types of problems discussed:
Battery charging but only to a certain percentage
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Several people have reported success with their limited battery percentage problem by following the solutions suggested by MarinM and Vladtech.
For the intermittent charging, several people have reported that sometimes the battery charges, sometimes it doesn't. I'd like to dig into these reports. I have a few questions I'd like to ask.
When does it charge, when does it not?
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Does swapping electrical outlets make a difference?
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Does the AC adapter show any signs of damage?
When a second device is plugged into the extra USB port on the AC Adapter, does this impact Y3P charging?
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I'd like to hear more about what happened to your Yoga 3 Pro not charging.
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