Yosemite boot camp install on /separate/ drive?

i have an existing windows 7 boot camp install that resides on a drive in my 2006 mac pro with my LION OS.
i now have a 2012 mac pro.
should i install windows 7 with boot camp on a SEPARATE drive or can i put it on a partition on the same drive as yosemite?
thanks

OK. thank you.
so i /like/ the idea of having an internal CLONE of my OS in bay 1 on the drive in bay 2.
in the past i have set this to happen nightly and i use WinClone (thanks hatter) to create a BACKUP of the Boot Camp install of Windows 7 and i drop this backup on the DESKTOP. this way i have a BACKUP of Windows on my boot OS and i also have one on the CLONE.
just to confirm - no reason as far as you are concerned to change this?

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Installing boot camp/windows on separate drive (Tiger) question

I work in a college computer lab where we have been instructed to install an additional internal hard drive on our lab of Mac Pros which will be dedicated to Windows.
The issue that I see is that we are still running Tiger due to some of the specialized software that we use not being compatible with Leopard and will not be upgrading the OS for at least a semester. I have read that Boot Camp is no longer compatible with Tiger, so my question is this: Is it possible to still install the drives which will be windows formatted if we have a copy of the old Boot Camp Beta (which I understand is no longer available)? I would think this is not particularly wise to do, but unfortunately I am not the final say in my situation.
Thanks for your help on this!

maestrotim wrote:
Thanks Stefan, sorry but what drivers CD do you mean?
With the Beta the neede Windows Drivers are incorporated into the BootCamp Assistant.
Since you need the drivers to complete the Windows Installation, you have to make a Drivers CD from the BootCamp Assistant before starting the Windows Installation.
In the Top Menu of the Assistant you find this.
Regards
Stefan

Installing boot camp on a second drive

Hi All,
First let me apologize for this long-winded post and also for my lack of basic knowledge when it comes to mac computer skills.
I would like to install windows 7 on a brand new 500gb drive in a brand new mac pro.
I was reading through the installation & setup up guide for boot camp and was stonewalled on page 6 it says;
“If your computer has more than one internal disk and you want to install Boot Camp on a disk that isn’t in the first hard drive bay, remove the drives in the lower numbered bays. You can reinstall the drives after you install Boot Camp.”
Ok that makes sense but if I remove the first drive how do I install boot camp since the first drive contains boot camp on it?
The next question I have is; Can I make the whole 500gb drive one partition that will have boot camp, windows 7 and all the windows files on it or does it have to have just boot camp and windows 7?
Thanks
Mike

Shutdown - pull OS X drive(s) - continue with install.
You'll have to change to NTFS when you get to where to install.
At that point you can even format or partition.
As for the Assistant, well, some install Windows 7 on a drive without it (that can't be done with XP) and just leave one drive and boot from Win 7 DVD.
"that will have boot camp...."
There IS NO "boot camp." The assistant modified the partition table to include a standard MBR for booting Windows. And that would be on the #2 500GB.
Until you install the Apple setup.exe drivers and services after Windows is installed from your OS X DVD, there is nothing in or on Windows that is faintly about boot camp. Unfortunate term. It also gets to become a control panel in Windows to change the default startup OS (why not call it Apple OS Switcher / Apple Startup Disk).
There will be AppleTimeServices and AppleOSSwitcher services along with HAL and device drivers to enable them in Device Manager.
As for lowered numbered and first drive bay, they must think Mac Pro owners are locked into and only boot from drive bay #1. and that Assistant is a very limited not very smart partitioning tool is true.
So run Assistant but instead of restarting with the DVD and install, just shutdown. Pull all the other drives but 500GB. Then boot off the DVD.

Should my boot camp install see my OSX drives?

HI folks. I"m trying to run Windows 7 under boot camp and thought that a Windows boot camp install could see my mac partitions so I could access the same data when I boot to my mac or my windows 7 boot camp partition. They are formatted OSX Extended Journaled. Should I be able to see them? Thanks.

Windows 7 uses a NTFS formatted file system. OSx uses a Mac only file system, so the answer is you can't without third party tools. Search these forums or search Google. Your question has been asked and answered in these forums several times. The search button is in the upper right of this page.
If you install Windows using a VM like Parallels or Fusion it is a little easier to share files between Windows and OSx.

Understanding boot camp and formatting backup drive for it

somehow i never got to fully understand how boot camp works in relation to OS X and i am wondering if someone can help me out here.
1. can i install boot camp on a mac pro and have NO mac OS on the computer at all? i have an old install here on a drive that i am not using and my recollection is that this is what i was doing.
2. if this is the case do i simply BACKUP this Boot Camp OS to an external drive that is formatted for windows?
3. if i have another newer mac pro (as I do) - and i am running yosemite on it - can i just run an partition on this drive and install my Boot Camp install (or maybe i run the boot camp installer and it creates a partition for itself)?
4. in the PAST i used WinClone to create a BACKUP of the Boot Camp installation and simply dropped this backup on my OS X desktop which was backed up. is there any good reason for me to PARTITION the backup drive with a part of it being /partitioned/ as windows drive so that the Boot Camp Partition was backed up to this windows partition? the lacie external drive install app seems to ask if i want to do this and i got to thinking there may be a more direct way to backup BOOT CAMP than running the WinClone backup manually once in awhile and having this image backed up with the rest of the OS X partition.
thanks for any help.

thanks Csound. this is a tad confusing for me.
i guess hatter is saying he would like to see the Windows 7 boot camp on its own drive. and right now i am basically planning on /restoring/ the WINCLONE image backup from my 2006 MP to either this separate drive in bay 4 in the 2012 MP or a partition on the OS X drive in bay 1 (if i can "cleanse" it of all the stuff it had when it was on my older 2006).
i guess i do this /through/ the WINCLONE user interface but is it going to somehow drop this boot camp partition on a separate drive that somehow has its /own/ mac OS install on it? you know what i mean? i mean - say i want to put this boot camp install on an empty drive in bay 4, so i format it with extended journaled and then go into winclone and start some kind of restore procedure of my backup to that drive? i guess i am confused big time about this.
also, just so i am clear. is that 2 partitions per mac pro or per disk? i mean, i do have an OS X yosemite on my drive and i am planning on installing windows 7 by restoring from WinClone image

Yosemite Boot Camp Drivers

Hi,
Thanks in advance for any help I receive. After upgrading to Yosemite, like many, windows 8 was having a problem loading. As soon as the 8 desktop would appear, the screen would go blue and Windows would shut down. I erased the partition and started over. Here is the procedure I used:
1) Launch Boot Camp assistant
2) Download latest drivers to flash drive
3) Boot Camp assistant partitions the drive ( 400 GB Windows partition)
4) Boot Camp restarts and installs Windows (8.0)
5) Windows asks me to select a drive to install windows.
6) I select the BootCamp drive, but I have to use the format tool on the installation page to format it to NFTS (otherwise I cannot install windows.
7) Windows ask for key-key accepted
8) Installation runs fine-Windows asks for all the setup information
9) Desktop appears
10) Boot Camp support drivers program runs automatically and installs drivers-computer restarts fine.
11) Problem-once the desktop appears, as soon as I start to do anything, the blue screen appears that says windows had a problem-
12) no amount of windows self repair works short of taking it back to a point before installing Boot Camp support drivers
Either I am doing something wrong or the problem is the Boot Camp drivers need to be upgraded by Apple.
The error I see on the screen says something about "security check on Ktext" or something close to that.
Any ideas?
All the best,
Ciro

Hi Loner T,
Thanks for the reply. Firs the links Kappy provided are the procedure I followed. To answer your questions, BCA downloaded the the drivers. I assumed that it downloaded the 5.1.5621, which seems to be the correct drivers for my machine, a Mac Pro mid 2010. The 5.1.5640 drivers are for 2013 macs. I tried downloading the 5.1.5621 software manually and running it once Windows loaded, but I got the same problem.
The error message that appears in step 11 is "kernal_security_check_failure" This seems like it might be related to Yosemite. Doesn't Yosemite now have some security feature related to ktext files? I am getting this from Trim enabler.
Thanks
Ciro

Apple Store Refuses to Diagnose Hardware Issue after Boot Camp Installed

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This is what led me to take my machine to my local (15 miles away) Apple Retail Store (Washington Sqaure, Tigard, Oregon), and attempt to show the problem to a "genius". HOWEVER... As soon as I mentioned "Boot Camp" and XP, they went into the whole "public beta, blah, blah, blah", "not supported", etc. I tried to explain that I was not reporting a SOFTWARE issue with Boot Camp, but rather a HARDWARE ISSUE which is exposed on my machine only after using BOOT CAMP to partition the hard drive, and then installing Windows XP. All I get was "Well, it works fine in OSX, and Boot Camp is Public Beta, so there's nothing we're going to do". Obviously, I'm livid. And, will pursuing any and all avenues to bring this problem to Apple Management attention. First it was Mark Pienpakdee the "genius" who tried to help me, and then I was further rebuked by Mark Macsurak, Assistant Manager. So, I'm left with broken hardware which won't work correctly running Windows, and no recourse until Boot Camp isn't "Public Beta". What a load of crap. I was so mad, I didn't even bother buying the extra AC adapter I was planning on picking up. ARGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was absolutly shocked that the "genius" didn't react with anything like "wow, what an interesting problem, let's see if we can diagnose it". He didn't even want to see me boot XP to show the problem, only wanted to see that OSX was working normally and send me on my way.
If you have had similar problem at the Washington Square store in Oregon, be sure to let them know by sending e-mail to [email protected], I know I will...
Eric

If you are going to send an e-mail you should send it to [email protected] However, nobody from Apple is going to send you a response. The Software is Beta which means it is not ready for Prime Time (Also that means that the drivers are beta too). Plus they say before you decide to install any of this in their write ups that they do not and will not provide any support for BootCamp and/or Windows. So they are right not to do anything if the computer works like it is supposed to under OS 10.4.6. Now they might take a look at somethings when OS 10.5 comes out if it has BootCamp in it. They may have something similiar in it, or it might be a perfected BootCamp. However, I doubt that they will ever provide any support for Windows. There has been some talk that Microsoft is looking into supporting Windows on the MAC. However, as far as I have heard no decision on that has come out as of yet.

I have a copy of Windows 7, and I am trying to bring up Boot Camp on my MacBook with Snow Leopard. But my Snow Leopard install disk is too old for Windows 7, so attempted Boot Camp install of drivers fails.

I have a copy of Windows 7, and I am trying to bring up Boot Camp on my MacBook with Snow Leopard. But my Snow Leopard install disk is too old for Windows 7, so attempted Boot Camp install of drivers fails.
I have hand-installed the NVidia graphics driver, and I have keyboard, minimal trackpad, and hardwire to internet all working. So the WIndows machine is usable. But I am hurting for wi-fi, better trackpad, and whatever else is delivered by Boot Camp. I can't use any of the Boot Camp upgrades because I do not have XP or Vista.

While we all have MacBooks in this forum not all of us use Boot Camp. There's a Boot Camp Support Community where everybody uses Boot Camp. You should also post this question there.
https://discussions.apple.com/community/windows_software/boot_camp

New Macbook Pro retina boot camp install issue - Windows 7

Trying to complete a boot camp install but can't get past creating a partition. I am able to download the windows drivers through boot camp, it burns them to a DVD, verifies the DVD (couldn't use CD-R as it kept saying burn failure after verifying files) and then takes me to the make a partition page. When i click install the partition, it pops up saying "can't find the installer disc" and wants me to put one in the super drive. What gives? I have that disc in the drive, also tried the Windows 7 disc and got the same error. So basically I can't create a partition to install windows 7 that I have.
Any thoughts?

The disk was from my other PC system, however it is an OEM upgrade disc. Maybe that is the problem but if that is the case why did it work when I installed it through VMware and it worked fine? The disc can be used as a self full install of windows 7. I have also it on another PC with no issues. Trying to convert to Mac finally but this is causing a hiccup.
The next question then is do I really need to go the boot camp way? I only need it to run quickbooks (need windows version for reasons) and a couple of other programs but thought it may run better as a boot camp install rather than VM plus I couldn't figure out how to reduce the size of the partition that VM installs, it takes too much space from me for no reason (60Gb).
Thanks for any input.

"Booting from Boot Camp Assistant created USB Drive...Failed to load BOOTMGR"

Hi Apple Ppl of the Wrld: I need help I been working on installing windows 8 on my Mac.
Spec of equipment:
Mac Book Pro Mid 2012
Bootcamp Version: Version 5.0.4 (473)
Bootable USB Flash Drive: Type Scan disk 4 GB windows 8 pro iso image but without the driver and the 2nd Scan disk USB flash drive with 32 GB with the Bootcamp Drivers downloaded and saved to this drive.
Please Note: I also have the original back up installation disc for Microsoft 8 Prof 64 from Microsoft where I purchased it from.
1st Bootcamp is not recognizing the Original Microsoft 8 Pro backup disk from microsoft itself.
Solution: I created the New Image from the Original Microsoft installed disc in my desk top and changed the extension to .ISO then burned the ISO image into the newly purchased DVD+R. Then I ran Bootcamp Once again and it get the following error message "The installer disc could not be found -- Insert your Windows installer disc and wait a few seconds for the disc to be recognized. Solution
2: Created a bootable usb drive with bootcamp assistant successfully with bootcamp. Yes I close, ejected or un-mounted any image that was open or had been previously used then i restarted the Mac. Next, I start the bootcamp assistant tool once again then i get the same insert your windows installer disc message.
3: Then I try to resolve the installer disc not found issue: this are the steps i took: a). Lauch disc utilities
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    2. On the right you’ll see 5 tab buttons: First Aid | Erase | Partition | RAID | Restore.
    3. Choose Partition. Then I clicked + to add another partition size of the partition was 222 GB
    4. Change the Name of the Partition to BOOTCAMP
    5. Change the Format to MS-DOS (FAT)
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4: Take the Mac to best buy and let them resolve the issue and charge me like a million dollars for it :'( since i have no other idea who to get this bootcamp working at all. This has been a terribly lengthy issue and it is not as simple as it is claimed to be since i started with the Original Windows Disc Purchased from Microsoft and I have the Optical disc drive which it should be simpler from what I understand.
Please can you help It would be of great help.
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from what i understand you are trying to install win 8 pro from a "backup disk" the one that you purchased from microsoft.
this will not work, it is not an installer disk.
you need to start the process again. erase the partition you made on your hdd. in disc utility click the minus button after selecting the bootcamp partition, then manually drag the divider down fully then apply.
next, erase your usb then format it.
download win 8 iso from here;
http://getintopc.com/softwares/operating-systems/download-windows-8-pro/
it is perfectly legal to use your purchased product key in this install.
in bootcamp select the iso image you just downloaded, select your preferred partition size, check all 3 options.
you have the support software on another usb but you wont need it so it can be discarded. the install will work far better with the iso and support on the same drive.

Boot Camp For Lion -- USB ISO Method --"Booting from Boot Camp Assistant created USB Drive...Failed to load BOOTMGR"

Hello, has anyone had experience with dealing with this speciifc problem?
In short, upon rebooting, I am getting a black screen with a line of text that says, "Booting from Boot Camp Assistant created USB Drive...Failed to load BOOTMGR." Nothing happens after that.
I am using Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4. I have an ISO of Windows 7 Prof. along with an 8GB usb drive. I changed the coding in my bootcamp program to allow for the normally first invisible option that allows creation of a USB Installation program using an ISO that is normally only for computers without an optical drive.
I have that box checked, the check for new software box, and the install windows box checked. I went through the process of creating the USB, downloading the software, and partitioning the drive. Then on restart, I get the failed to load bootmgr error.
Some people have suggested using two usb drives for this. I am trying that method but it does not seem to help thus far.
Can anyone offer any help?
Thanks.

from what i understand you are trying to install win 8 pro from a "backup disk" the one that you purchased from microsoft.
this will not work, it is not an installer disk.
you need to start the process again. erase the partition you made on your hdd. in disc utility click the minus button after selecting the bootcamp partition, then manually drag the divider down fully then apply.
next, erase your usb then format it.
download win 8 iso from here;
http://getintopc.com/softwares/operating-systems/download-windows-8-pro/
it is perfectly legal to use your purchased product key in this install.
in bootcamp select the iso image you just downloaded, select your preferred partition size, check all 3 options.
you have the support software on another usb but you wont need it so it can be discarded. the install will work far better with the iso and support on the same drive.

Failed boot camp install - how to remove windows partition?

Hi There,
After a failed boot camp install, boot camp no longer sees (or can remove) a windows partition - Disk Utility can't seem to remove it and if I use:
$ diskutil list
It shows up as partition 5 "Microsoft Reserved"
I also have a portion of free space that I can't seem to incorporate back into the main OSX partition - how do I remove the windows partition and make the drive a single OSX drive again?
Any help would be much appreciated
Cheers
Ben
- New Mac Pro
- Installing onto internal 1 TB SSD
- 10.9.3
- Windows 8.1

Just incase others have this issue, this wasn't caused by using Disk Utility (Disk Utility couldn't remove the partition anyway) it was caused by repeatedly trying to format the Boot Camp partition using the Windows installer when Windows refused to install.
The solution is an Apple tech note (I can no longer find it sorry) that sates that no other hard drives besides the internal HD and the Windows USB flash drive can be connected while installing windows.
Cheers

Boot Camp Install Issue

I have a 27 inch Imac using OSX Lion 10.7.3 and I would like to install Bootcamp so I can load Windows 7. When I try to use Bootcamp Assistant I get the following message, "The startup disk cannot be partitioned or restored to a single partition." I've gleaned from the forums that I'm going to have to reinitialize the hard drive and reinstall Lion so I can properly use Bootcamp.
Once I reinitialize the drive and reinstall Lion, should I use Bootcamp to create the partition before I restore my Time Machine backup, or should I wait to use Bootcamp until after I've restored my backup? I'm worried that if I wait until after the restore that it would just take me back to "The startup disk cannot be partitioned or restored to a single partition." again. But I'm also worried that if I use Bootcamp before the restore that restoring everything will overwrite the partition, Windows install, etc.
I hope this makes sense. Any help would be appreciated.

The disk was from my other PC system, however it is an OEM upgrade disc. Maybe that is the problem but if that is the case why did it work when I installed it through VMware and it worked fine? The disc can be used as a self full install of windows 7. I have also it on another PC with no issues. Trying to convert to Mac finally but this is causing a hiccup.
The next question then is do I really need to go the boot camp way? I only need it to run quickbooks (need windows version for reasons) and a couple of other programs but thought it may run better as a boot camp install rather than VM plus I couldn't figure out how to reduce the size of the partition that VM installs, it takes too much space from me for no reason (60Gb).
Thanks for any input.

Boot camp install would error out

I had multiple issues as well.
When I first tried to install 8.1 full as a fresh boot camp install it would error out and say that the required files were not there to install.
Then I would try it again and it would then get close to finishing and say it cant change the boot order and fail.
Apple please fix as soon as possible.
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What's happening here is that the Windows installation, for whatever reason, is not booting properly. It is also set as your default boot system. To change this, reboot your mac while holding down the Option/Alt key. After awhile you will be presented with two icons, one for OS X and the other for Windows. Select OS X and then press Enter.
OS X will boot. Go to System Preferences >> Startup Disk and then select your OS X partition and this won't happen anymore.

Installing boot camp on a separate disk

This is pretty basic, but I couldn't find an answer. Better to ask than to mess up an install:
The Installation & Setup Guide says that if you want to install on a separate disk, you should remove the drives in the lower numbered bays (then reinstall them later). The question is this: How do you run Boot Camp Assistant after you've pulled out the drives in the lower numbered bays? You can't pull them out while the power is on, of course, and you can't boot OSX when the drives are out. Do you first run Boot Camp Assistant, stop at some point, shut off the power, pull the drives, then install Windows?

There really is only one logical method, which you came to on your own.
Also, with Vista and 7, you don't need and there is nothing BCA does that is req'd when installing on non-OS X drive.
BCA is either crippled or so very limited that I don't use it. Say you want to use only 1/3 of that drive for Windows, it won't, or at least you have to repartition anyway in Windows 7 DVD. And BCA creates a FAT partition so you have to format that to NTFS anyway when you get to selecting where to install.

Yosemite boot camp install on /separate/ drive?

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