Z77 MPower RAM problems (BSOD)

Hi!
So i'm writing on this forum because im having huge problems with BSOD (0x0000001a - Memory managment) on my z77 mpower mobo.
My PC:
Windows 7
Intel i5 - 3570K
MSI Z77 MPOWER
ATI HD5850
G.Skill 4GBx2 (F3-12800cl9d-8GBXL)
Corsair TX650
Latest Beta Bios (Same in 17.3, 17.4)
Problems emerges when i put RAM in slot #2 and #4 like described in manuals (initial slots). I even get errors on Memtest86 but when I put RAM in slots #1 and #3 there is no Memtest errors. If i test only 1 bank of memory i get wierd timming in Memtest .
RAM: 804 MHz (DDR3-1608) / CAS : 6-6-6-20 (11-11-11-28 when in dual channel) - Original timming are 9-9-9-24. And when im using single stick of ram slot 1 or 2 have timmings 6-6-6-20 and slot 3 and 4 have 11-11-11-28.
About that error in memtest86. I get error (1 error every loop) in test 8. If I lauch memtest86 right after BSOD (always the same) i get 300 errors in 10 seconds (SLOT 2 AND 4) .
XMP does not solve BSODs.
I dont really know what else could i write to help you understand my problem .

Quote from: xmad on 21-November-12, 02:19:57
I suggest you borrow some memory to test(Any other DDR3), if the problem re-presents itself, I suggest you remove the cpu and inspect the cpu pins for damage. Do this with a bright light and magnifying glass.
already inspected pins and all is fine. Now i need other RAM to test.
Quote from: Froggy Gremlin on 21-November-12, 03:31:36
If you are getting errors in Memtest, the RAM is most likely at fault and should be replaced. As for the CPU-Z readings, they can't be completely trusted. I see once in awhile on the SPD Tab the wrong chip programming being reported, so glitches exist with the SW. Does CPU-Z still read wrong when just one RAM stick is placed in DIMM 2, the primary DIMM slot which is the second slot from the CPU?
The RAM sticks should be initially tested each individually using Memtest in the primary DIMM slot, not both together in slots 2 and 4, or 1 and 3. IMO, you have a factory screwup mismatch labeled kit of RAM or something.
Having some bent or damaged CPU socket pins is also a possible, although this usually is indicated by failure to POST or boot, and DIMM slots 1 and 2, or 3 and 4 will not function at all.
About that second slot.
Inserted RAM CPUZ detection
slot1 slot 3
slot2 slot 4
slot3 slot 1
slot4 slot 2
i was testing with only 1 stick. I intend to test RAM in slot 2 like you said but what are those off timmings :S. RAM (9-9-9-24) but in memtest (4.20 or 5.0 Beta) are set to 6-6-6-20 and i cannot change it even with XMP profile or manual settings :S but in cpu-z show the correct timmings.

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Remove the board and make sure there are no extra stand off or screws shorting the case.
[cut]
just tried , no go at all ...
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