Z77MA-G45 and Radeon 7850 Incompatibility?

Hi Folks,
I helped a friend pick out components, and build, his first PC.
Intel i3 3225
16gb G.Skill Ripjawz CL9 DDR3 1600
XFX Radeon 7850
MSI Z77MA-G45
Thermaltake TR2 500W
I have tried updating to the latest MSI official BIOS for the motherboard (1.9). I have installed a Radeon 4870 I had lying around (it draws 166W compared to the 105W of the 7850), the display works with the 4870 video card, onboard video also works. However the 7850 does not work. I have tried every bios setting related to video or PCI-Express; the PCI-Express 3.0 option to both Auto and Disabled. I have set the options for IGD and PEG, and tried both. Voltages coming from the power supply are within spec. No pins are bent, the CPU is installed correctly, and the HS is seated properly. Temps are in the 40Cs for the CPU and in the 30Cs for the Motherboard.
All signs at this point, suggest the video card being at fault, however, upon returning to the store it was purchased, the tech tested the card in their test bench, and proclaimed it worked fine. The question I have is: Is there some kind of incompatibility at work here? I know there is an "added more VGA compatibility" to the release notes on the BIOS updates, is it simply that I need to wait for a new BIOS revision for the motherboard to get this card to work?
Thanks in advance for any potential solutions anyone can throw my way.

well as there are 2 parts that have to work together it could be either! unless the video card can be updated as it may just be that it can't be excluded!
as the board works with another graphics card and that the graphics card works in a test bench then it will more then likely be the VBIOS being Incomparable on the HD7850 (thats quite common)! do you have someone you know that may be willing to let you try it in there machine thats possible something like a 1155socket or even a AMD socketed board (AM3, AM3+, FM1 or FM2) thats got PCI-E gen 2 compatible slots on it?

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Quote from: flobelix on 26-September-13, 01:58:46
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MOVED: MSI Z77MA-G45 and front audio header

This topic has been moved to Intel Core-iX boards.
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I'm sorry for my English but I'm French and I hope that I will be understood.
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