Z87-g43 fan header problem

Hi everybody first post here so to get straight i have a small problem with sys3 fan header it seems that pwm function isnt working the fan is spining but i cant adjust speed in hardware control
it can be 50 or 100% its gonna spin at the max speed other 2 headers are working properly i also tried diffrent pwm fans on that header and i couldnt adjust speed for any of them
cpu headers are also working properly anybody have idea?

I have the same problem with my Z97-G45 MB, SYSFAN1 and SYSFAN2 works without problem but SYSFAN3 the speed(rpm) goes crazy. SYSFAN3 Speeds from 700rpm to 56000rpm according to HWMonitor, probably not the true speed as i think its not possible with anything above the fans specified 1000rpm, in my case I originally had 2x140mm fans and recently i bought another one just like the ones i have from start. I have tested the different sysfans in different slots and aslong as i only have two sysfans connected in the same time theres no problem but when connecting a third fan problems show up. All sysfans i have tested works fine aslong as only 2 fans are connected.
I think the MB is having problem to handle more than 2 sysfans at the same time
In this video ive made HWMonitor shows Auxfanin0/Sysfan1 and Auxfanin1/Sysfan2 works fine but Auxfanin2/Sysfan3 shows strange RPM speeds.

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USA will often allow a cross ship, but not usually in other parts of the world. Here is the contact;
> Contact MSI <
Do you not understand this is a user to user forum? Non official MSI support? Even the admin and mods are non MSI employees. All volunteers here, not at beck and call to wait hand and foot on somebody that 'demands' anything.
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However, I checked the socket pins but I cannot see any bent.
Here are some images I tried to take:
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I wanted the minimum noise as possible so i bought a Noctua NH-U12P SE2
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As alternative you can get a fan controller like Sunbeamtech Rheosmart PCI Fan Controller, it should allow to use 4pin PWM singnal and convert it into voltage control,
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Product Details:
Smart Way Controlling all Fans & Airflow. The Rheosmart PCI Fan Controller is designed to make any existing 3-pin fan automatically regularized by the PWM signal from the Motherboard! With its ability to connect two fans to a single PWM connector at a maximum of 20W/channel, a wide selection of fans can be supported. When a normal fan is connected to the Rheosmart PCI Fan Controller, they become auto adjusting through the PWM signal.
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Sorry for my English by the way. I'm not a native speaker.
Thanks for all your comments and suggestions already.

Thanks for the reply Nichrome,
I will follow your suggestions for the fans. Currently I don't have any fans on top. But I'm considering to buy some fans to top and side. So you get better results with top fans being exhaust right?
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my new MSI mainboards have a problem of reboot: fans run, leds also, but nothing more... if i've a reboot to make, the only solution is to turn off the system, and re launch after.
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MSI Z87-G43 Gaming
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GSKILL Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL (2x4go DDR3 1600 PC3 12800 c9-9-9-24 1.5v)
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Hey all, today I built a new PC with an MSI Z87-G43 mainboard and an i5-4690 CPU.
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For an explanation on how to do that everyone keeps linking to this topic. But to be honest, I don't understand what I have to do now :( (Also, I have never done a BIOS update in my life, and I am kinda scared of the warnings that it can brick the system...)
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Quote from: Chike on 17-May-15, 17:02:57
Check the serial number for manufacturing date, it look like this:
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That part of the serial number is 1402, so slightly too early I guess? In the BIOS setup it says V1.6 as well, screenshot:
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It just stays on, I get a black screen and the fans are running. I need to press the power button for a few seconds so it turns off, then I can turn it on again.
This happens whenever the PC should reboot: When I select "reboot" in Windows, it shuts down and then black screen. Whenever I press the reset button, I just get the black screen. Also e.g. after exiting the BIOS. The problem existed already before I installed Windows, so wrong settings there can hardly be the reason.
Everything happens exactly as described in the topic I linked.

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