Z87-G45 Graphics Problem!!!

I have a system i built a while ago and have always had a problem using any GPU. Ive tried numerous monitors and moving the card to all slots in my motherboard. Nothing seems to be working. All drivers are up to date according to Live Update.
About a week ago, i would get the lines during the MSI splash screen, and windows splash screen and then it would just open to my background but now i get absolutely nothing but this.
If i take the card out and run the motherboards graphics then it will boot up perfectly.
Im using an MSI Z87 G45 Motherboard, An i5 4440 CPU, and 8GB Corsair Ram.
I don't know if you need to know anything else, Im pretty new to this so i apologise for anything stupid i may put.. hah.
I would also like to point out I've tried a few graphics cards and they all also do the same thing.
Thanks in advance!

Well, it will make a difference. Just make sure you go for something well known which has good quality.
Cheapset quality PSU:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-048-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=2463
Check in your country for this model, almost all Corsair and Seasonic PSUs are very well made.
Quote from: Cez1150 on 03-November-14, 05:31:48
COOLER: NA
Not even stock? Its meaning is CPU cooler.

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Quote from: potaco on 29-August-13, 22:53:50
I have a similar situation running a similar configuration:
i5-4670k
Z87-G45
Gigabyte GTX 760
8gb Corsair RAM
750W OCZ PSU
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I originally tried using an older OCZ Vertex 2 120gb SSD and ran into massive problems with it being erratically recognized in the BIOS (I was able to install Windows to it once, then never able to access it again). I guess that is due to some issue with the Sandforce controller I hadn't known about til reading through this thread.
I switched to my newer Samsung SSD and things are working "OK", but still not great. For some reason, every time I shutdown my PC, my BIOS gets cleared. Since I have multiple drives, it resets the hard drive boot order so that it tries to boot from my 500gb, then my RAID, then my SSD. I guess one of them must be set as bootable because I get some kind of "Windows cannot be found" error every time until I manually go into the BIOS and reset it. Rebooting my PC works as expected; this is only occurring with a shutdown.
It's almost like the CMOS battery is dead or something, but it's a brand new mobo and the system time remains correct.
Any ideas?
It is just a firmware issue. I got this fixed by updating the firmware of the SSD. May be you can also give a try to update the BIOS firmware as well. This will surely help. Older versions of Vertex have had this issue which has been successfully addressed by the firmware fix. Hope this helps!

MSI Z87 G45 driver problem

I have a MSI z87 g45 motherboard along with a i5 4670K. I've downloaded all the drivers directly from the MSI website. But, I am unable to install intel_rst and intel_vga_mb. Windows says "system does not meet minimum requirements". I don't understand. Anyone got a solution?

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Z87 G45 RAM Problem

Hi
I have the Z87 G45 mainboard and 4 dimms of ddr3 G.Skill Ares 16GAO.
The ram is a 16gb dual channel, but in order to get a post screen, only single channel dimm slot 3 or 4 or both work.
So I can have max 8gb of ram since only those two dimms work with the ram Ares modules.
When I get into uefi, I select no xmp profile, set the speed to 1600 but still nothing happens. I have updated the bios to the latest version 1.3 but nothing still.
In the bios it says 8gigs single channel.
Please any help is much appreciated
Ram module xmp is 11-11-11-28 @ 1.6v
CPU 4670k with integrated graphics

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Back to the op, does a single stick in dimm 1 or 2 post? If no, have u checked the CPU socket pins?
u? Agree with xmad if DIMM1 and DIMM2 are not working, there are bent or damaged pins in the CPU socket, or, CPU cooler improperly mounted, or, an errant standoff(s) underneath the mainboard shorting/grounding the DIMM slots. My bet is on the socket pins.
Ram module xmp is 11-11-11-28 @ 1.6v
Website shows 11 11 11 30 2N @ 1.60v's. Be that as it may, the platform CPU IMC support is for DDR3 1600 @ 1.50v's + or - 0.075v's. There is a sordid history of that particular brand of RAM and another brand-X board maker, but the OP's thread is not the place for discussion about it.

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Hi there.
I'm trying a new build with:
MOBO: MSI z97 g45
CPU: Intel i7-4790
RAM: 16 GB ram (corsair vengeance CL9 1333 MHz) 4x4
edit: additional info:
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My system continues to crash and instantly reboot after some random time.
At some point I found out that shouldn't I perform any significative task, it would never crash (like letting windows on with only task manager open).
After I load up some programs in windows, it crashes.
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I have installed all drivers through the CD and I also downloaded the latest intel graphics driver through MSI website (those downloaded directly from intel won't work), but the issue persists..
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Quote from: RemusM on 09-September-14, 21:29:25
First of all, that's NOT your video memory.
That's the reserved system memory for GPU tasks.
128-256 MB is more than enough in most of the cases.
Secondly, you cannot increase the amount of dedicated video memory.
For your CPU (embedded HD 4600) that limit is 1.7GB and is controlled by the GPU at runtime (depending on the graphics demand).
So I guess I was just changing the upper limit of the memory, otherwise, what's the exact use of that option in bios ("Integrated graphics reserved memory")?
Anyways, for the graphics card I'm thinking about a gtx 770 or 780.
I checked power calculators online and they all say the system will consume under 450W, my choice is between Corsair CX500M or CX600M, since they are both quite less expensive than 750 and should be enough.
So.. are these two's 8 pin power supply compatible with the cpu?
edit: Wait, I just saw your link. That RM sounds good, I'll check it out.

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Quote from: Svet on 31-May-15, 18:05:32
you say recently, does this mean it was working fine before?
can you test this headset in another computer?
Yes it was working just fine before, this issue started happening a couple of weeks ago but I've had this setup for almost a year now.
I also don't readily have access to another computer to try it out on and testing it on another computer would be a bit of an issue because this only happens like once or twice a day after long hours of gaming.
Quote from: darkhawk on 31-May-15, 18:36:48
That's about the only relevant information I could find regarding this issue.
I would try the headset out on another computer. This would allow you to verify if the headset is the problem, or if the motherboard/USB ports are the problem.
I've checked out the link and my gamecoms were also configured for 5.1 surround sound, I reconfigured it to 7.1 surround sound so hopefully this is the solution. Also again I don't readily have access to another computer to test this out.
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When I boot into Windows, it takes about 10 minutes before I actually have any internet access. This is not a problem I had with my old system, so is unlikely to be my router.
Basically, when I reboot, the Qualcomm Atheros Killer Network Manager appears, and asks me to perform a speedtest.net test. The popup window appears, but is just a white area. While I wait for this to load, no other applications can access the internet, although the icon (Windows built-in icon, not the Killer network manager's) in my taskbar reports that I do have internet access from a wired connection.
After 5-10 minutes, the speedtest appears, and the rest of my system can communicate with the internet. The speedtest reports the wrong speed, though (if I retype new higher values and then retest, it does report the correct values). If I don't retype the values, everything is limited to the erroneous, lower speeds.
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A) How do I fix the 10 minute wait after boot before I can use the internet?
B) How do I stop the initial speedtest from reporting the wrong speeds?
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Morning all, still learning all about my new board & getting great support & advice on the forum.
Machine running superbly all round....RAID10, Multiple Boot, nearly all board leads worked out & managed.
Have a new issue with something I imagined to be straightforward.
Purchased a Logitech K810 K/B & a Logitech T400 mouse. Have installed by the book & done normal updates & checks.
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Quote from: Nichrome on 20-December-14, 20:19:17
Hello,
What BIOS version is your PC running?
Try to >>Clear CMOS Guide<< with power cord removed.
What USB port(s) is the bluetooth receiver connected to? Did you try USB 2.0 possibly?
Seems like you use USB3.0 and that's why it's not working from boot, as this requires a driver which is installed obviously in the OS. So try USB 2.0
Nichrome hi there and many thanks for the quick reply. Not 100% of Bios version but can certainly check. Do know that I have Liveupdate 6 running and so think it is very latest-est on all levels.
Also fairly sure it is in a USB 2 port but not 100% so off the check that right now....is a good point, I did not consider that.
Can I just ask what the CMOS clear routine does please? More than happy to give that a go, just making sure I understand the purpose and I guess any risks in doing so.
Will check and report back very shortly...many thanks for taking the time

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what i do? sorry my bad english

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Well, I tried my luck once again - didn't work out too well. At least I know it can't be the graphics card 'cause that one is working fine here on my old PC.
But thenagain "compatibility" is a thing.
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Dosent your BIOS have update software in it? .. that what i used on main (MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming) and will use in dase on foward when i have it as i dont trust OS's.
What happend ? ...well youl luck run out but how?
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You see BIOS but not OS or what? ...
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cpu: Intel Pentium G3258, Intel Celeron G3220
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So...
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ram: Pny XL9 1600 DDR3 8gb stick, Kingston Fury 1866 DDR3 8gb stick
Are you mixing RAM??
Did you try to reser CMOS? >>Clear CMOS Guide<<
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Hi and
Plz insert full spec list in next post like Svet asked.
Quote from: ThatSexyBatman on 22-October-13, 09:15:12
Sunday, I got a brand new MSI Z87-G45 and 4770k as a nice upgrade. Ive finally got the things working this evening, and the integrated graphics are running fine. However, when I attempt to utilize my 7970, no video output is available. The card is seated, the card works (last tested 2 hours ago), the card is powered, the fans are spinning up, yet still no video output is provided. Ive attempted to remedy the problem with another graphics card as well, and then with the two in crossfire, but still I have no out put. Help me msi forum , you're my only hope.
Take the pc a part and build it without case and try again.
I hope this helps! Cheers Mummy
Edit: I dont member if that board come with power button, but if not you can use jumper(or other tool) betwean those power button pins (be careful to not jump wrong pins!) a secend to start it up.
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The card is seated, the card works (last tested 2 hours ago), the card is powered, the fans are spinning up, yet still no video output is provided.
Did you use same PSU?
If it dosent work without case, then take your system bear minimum (MB, CPU, PSU and that GPU. Mayby memory too, but you can test it. Should you need it with that on board vga and no memory in) and try again.
If that dosent help, i would ask RMA from shop that sell you that board or straigth from MSI.

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