Z87-G45. VCore setting ignored. Set to 1.147V but maxes out at 1.3V!!

Hi guys, first post here and I couldn't find any similar threads. I'm a complete noob with overclocking, but I had a 4.1GHz overclock on my i5-4670K with 1.147V (1.195V w/ -0.049 offset, adaptive mode) stable for over a year. All other settings were at default.
I reinstalled windows 3 weeks ago, updated the BIOS from 1.8 to 1.9 and the ME drivers. I didn't touch the overclock settings afterwards due to studies, but when I did try a few days ago, the vcore setting I enter in the BIOS seems to be ignored. Using the same settings as before the reinstall (1.195vcore, -0.049 offset, adaptive mode), it is reported by CPU-Z to be 1.28-1.3V during a Prime95 stresstest.
Unlikely factors:
-error in CPU-Z voltage reading = not likely as the temps are about 20 degrees celsius higher than they previously were (70+ previous, 95-99 current)
-prime95                                 = i used this same program to stresstest the CPU before the reinstall without similar issues
What I've tried so far:
- Changing CPU multiplier to 41x vcore to 1.147 without offset = 1.33V reported by CPU-Z (Picture shows these settings)
- Tried rolling back the BIOS version to 1.8 using MFlash          = no change
The attached picture shows the settings, but the CPU meter temps are still 80+ as I only ran the test for 5 seconds for fear of overheating.
I hope there's a solution to this. I don't have much understanding of what controls vcore (bios, OS, ME, etc) so I don't know what else I can do to diagnose and fix this. If anyone could offer any solutions or help, I would appreciate it greatly.
Thanks for your time!
EDIT: I only used Command centre to show the voltage setting in the screenshot. BIOS was used to change settings. I might add that command centre has always crashed within half an hour of opening it, and thus I've never relied on it.

Hi again, just an update on my situation. I've effectively corrected my problem, but my OC settings are still not functioning exactly like before.
I reinstalled windows (not a system image restore) without installing any of the mobo drivers that liveupdate recommends. I can achieve a stable 4.1GHz OC with 1.168V (reported by CPU-Z). The only error is that my vcore is set to 1.195 (offset -0.049), which used to give a VID of 1.147V, not 1.168V.
Still, I'm quite happy that at least I can run a stable 4.1GHz overclock at below 1.2V, which didn't work when I started this thread.
Now the only question left, since I purposely didnt install most mobo drivers, is whether I need to install the Chipset drivers or "management engine" drivers listed on my motherboard's support page? (http://www.msi.com/support/mb/Z87-G45-GAMING.html#down-driver&Win7 64)

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