Z87 Gaming Boards - Questions regarding fan control / soundblaster cinema...

Hello everyone,
I'm thinking about switching to MSI Z87-G45 Gaming (currently using Asus Gene-Z V), however there are three issues that I've been unable to find information on:
1) Fan Control
The new msi boards seem to have new bios fan control which enables you to set a low temperature and corresponding fan speed, aswell as high temperature which marks the temp when the fan will reach 100% speed. However I've read that this is only available for the CPU_FAN1 header and not CASE_FANX or even CPU_FAN2 (if available). Is that true?
2)Audio Solution
The middle boards seem to feature Realtek 1150 in combination with the software solution Soundblaster Cinema (Xpower as X-Fi MB3). Now the soundblaster cinema really confuses me, is it better than the X-FI MB2 (thats the software solution of the asus Z77 rog boards)? Does it have the "soundblaster console" in addition to thx true studio pro or is it just the thx utility etc.?
3) VGA Boost in combination with msi graphics cards
What exactly does this do? It says that it automatically increases the power target, but is that useful if you also use msi afterburner?
Thanks.

Thanks for info, I ordered a G45-Gaming today and let's see how it works out. 
Quote from: Joiis on 20-June-13, 02:51:13
Can you control 3 pin fans with this board?
BTW first post here :-)
I can update you on this issue once I get everyone up and running, however generally msi had the following setup:
CPU_FAN headers -> pwm control (and sometimes voltage too)
CASE_FAN headers -> voltage control only (= 3 PIN fan)
The "old" case fan control sucked though since you could only set a range from 60% to 100% on the fans whereas for cpu fans you could set 0 to 100%. Also the minimum temperatur for case fans was 40° which in makes case (case temp never rose above 35°) made case fan control pretty much useless.

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