Z87 MPOWER MAX - A Hobbyist's Perspective

First impressions are how well built this board really is. PCB is thick and sturdy, heavy duty top to bottom, side to side. The mainboard looks to be able to handle anything that can be tossed at it, but the biggest problem is the heat the CPU generates. That's not the board's fault. Zalman CNPS9900B-Max is used, and it does a great job considering the circumstances.
As with any review, benchmarks and results may not be the same as what others may experience. Graphics cards used are middle of the road, but they did ok. Was too lazy to pull a GTX 680 to test with.
Test configuration;
Z87 MPower Max v1.2B8
4770K
Zalman CNPS9900B-Max
Corsair AX850
Corsair Dominator Platinum 2800
Brand-X GTX 460
Thread is open, so comments are welcome.
First up is stock/auto/default 35X/1600;
Next up is 35X2800;
More in the next post.

Next up, 43X1600;
43X2666
43X2800;

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PCI-e wireless card causes lock ups Z87 MPower MAX

I've already asked this question once, but was part of an epic essay that I've decided to break down into smaller more manageable chunks (as unsurprisingly that one got no replies).
I've got an ASUS PCE-A66 wireless ac pci-e card. Had absolutely no issues with it in my old Z77 board, but I seem to be having a lot of issues with it in my new Z87 MPower MAX. System was locking up like mad when I was trying to install the drivers at first. Had to rip out the WiFi/Bluetooth/WiDi module to get the drivers installed but the system randomly hangs on boot up? Don't get the issues with the card unplugged and don't always get it with it plugged in, but there seems to be some form of conflict with it that I can't resolve. Has anyone else had any such issues with any PCI-e add in cards on this motherboard?
Specs are:
i7 4770k
MSI MPower MAX using .128 bios (will try the .131 later)
2x4GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400
Coolermaster Silent Pro Hybrid 1050w
EVGA NVidia GTX 780 SC ACX
Windows 8 Pro 64bit

Yes, old system was Win8 Pro 64 bit too and the drivers are Windows 8 certified. As I say though, I had no issues with it on the old build? Even got a replacement sent out by Amazon in case the card itself was damaged Did initially try to do a warm update of the hardware into the same OS installation but didn't play well so did a full re-install in the end. Tried standard and UEFI installs (just in case) and after a problem with my OCZ Vector 2 not being recognised I bought a new Samsung 840 Pro so was a virgin SSD installed on to as well.
I'll raise it directly with MSI but just wanted to know if anyone else had experienced anything similar with any wireless cards in this mobo.
Cheers for the reply though

Z87 Mpower Max Wifi Problem

Hey!
So I recently built this new PC:
CPU: I7 4770k || GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 770 Gaming 4GB || Mobo: MSI Z87 MPOWER MAX || RAM: Crucial DDR3 BallistiX Sport 2x 8GB || SSD: Samsung 840 PRO Series 256GB || Chassi: Cooler Master HAF XM Midi Tower || CPU-cooler: Noctua NH-D14 || PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 720W || OS: Windows 7 Ultimate || HDD: WD Desktop Green 2 TB | SAMSUNG SpinPoint 160 GB | HITACHI 250 GB
I'm happy with everything except the Wifi connection... I've been googling and searching on forums without any help so now I'm hoping someone know how to fix this problem...
I got a low connection to the router and it's terribly slow (the router is a WNR2000v2 but I've never had problems with it earlier and I get the same result with other routers). Basically, I get about 20Mbit/s with cable and the wifi from my laptop (HP ProBook 6560b with "Broadcom 4313 802.11b/g/n ") and the laptop can stand right next to my desktop PC and get 5/5 in connection vs MSI Mpower Max Wifi (Intel(R) Centrino(R) Wireless-N 2230) which only get 3/5 in the same distance. I've tried all kinds of placements for the antennas without and improvement. BUT, my problem is that instead of getting 20Mbit/s I only get up to 5Mbit/s. Now... I run the latest drivers from MSI's Mpower Max webpage and I run the latest BIOS (Version E7815IMS V1.3), but I cannot find a solution.
Thanks in advance...
Sincerely,
Dexter
(Excuse my poor English)

I think you should go through some Windows settings. Also try to configure router (this might be the problem).

Z87 MPOWER MAX problems?

Hey all,
Alright, so I installed a new motherboard, the Z87 MPower MAX, a new CPU (i7-4770k @3.5Ghz). So far, not so good. Basically, once I installed it, windows loaded up and instantaneously my system was monumentally slower than before, I used to have a Rampage IV Formula and an i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E process running at 3.6Ghz. It lags when I drag windows around a huge amount, it took over and two hours to install the drivers from the CD's (not including the crashing which occured whilst trying to do so, program crashing, not PC). My Graphics cards ARE DETECTED BY WINDOWS. But my drivers are not. Also, when I try to run catalyst control centre, it tells me there is nothing to use it so it doesn't start and when I try to install new drivers, the catalyst software gets hung up on detecting graphics hardware and never gets past it. I have a program called speccy which usually detects my hardware very quickly but also gets stuck analysing and doesn't pick up anything, not to mention the Windows Experience Index won't run properly to due an error to do with "System/ Drivers/ blah blah blah.." Ugh...Not having fun and I have no support from Microsoft as I am an OEM user.
System specs are:
Motherboard: MSI MPower MAX
Processor: Intel core i7-4770K @3.5Ghz
GPU: TWO AMD R9 290X Cards running in Crossfire
PSU: 1200W Crosair 80+ Gold
RAM: 16Gb Ripjaw-z 2133Mhz DDR3 RAM
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium
This is primarily a gaming / photoshop system so I really need this to start running smoothly, any advice is greatly appreciated!!!!

For rendering, graphics design, audio creation, X79 was and is superior. Be that as it may, is the OS a fresh Install? If not, that is the problem.

MSI z87 MPOWER MAX Compatibility Question

Hi I own the z87 MPOWER MAX motherboard and have recently been receiving blue screens while playing games ~10mins in.
Not sure what the problem is at this point, but I had a look through the VGA Support and Memory support sections as stated on the support section of MSI's page
And have found that my graphics card (GTX 590) and my RAM Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M2A1866C9 isnt on the list. Would this be an issue?
Please let me know,
Thanks!

Quote from: flobelix on 15-January-14, 02:18:11
Both components should work fine considering compatibility. What other components are in use? >>Posting Guide<<
Thanks for the reply, I figured out the problem. A friend of mine installed League of Legends on my computer and it installed some drivers which ive uninstalled and it seems to have solved the problem.
Sorry for not abiding by the posting guide, just needed a simple yes or no as to the compatability of my parts with my mobo.
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MSI Z87 Mpower MAX Internet Issue

Hello guys!
About a week ago Ive got the MSI z87 Mpower MAX for my new build.
However, I had some stranges issues with my internet rooter. He restart almost every hour, aleatory!!!!! Only with this pc (I have another one and it works fine)
So, I changed the rooter for a brand new one, and the same problem persist, only with the mpower max... Its not always, but 7-10 times in day my rooter restart if its plugged on my mobo.
Idk where start to solve this...
Im using the Windows 8 Pro version, with Avira Internet Security.
Can anyone help me? :(

I deleted your double post. Don't try again with multiple topics on your issue: >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<
Also it is obviously impossible to help you with just the board model and the info that you have an "issue"... Add full specs and proper description of the issue: Follow >>Posting Guide<<

Msi Z87 Mpower Max

I was wonder how many RAM slots does the Msi Z87 Mpower Max Motherboard hold? Can it hold all this? CMD64GX3M8A2400C10/Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-2400

there are a few that can do that!
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/X79A-GD45-Plus.html
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/X79A-GD65--8D-.html
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Big-Bang-XPower-II.html
just depends on your budget and how you will use it to what board is best suited (X79A-GD65 is the best all round) all the boards Supports eight unbuffered DIMM of 1.5 Volt DDR3 1066/1333/1600/1866*/2133*/2400* (OC) DRAM, 128GB Max (max of 64GB as it needs non ECC type RAM so support 8x8GB Dimms for 64GB total!)
if the board is made after September 2013 it will support that CPU out the box so if you buy one see if the vendor will give you the serial number and we will be able to tell you if its going to support it out the box!

Z87 Mpower Max Windows flash gone bad.

have a MSI z87 Mpower Max motherboard. While flashing with live update, windows crashed during "erasing flash" part. I did get it to boot into like a temporary BIOS by putting 1.2 version bios on a CDROM and letting it find it then it says "bios file damaged" i entered the bios to reflash but when i select the BIOS file from my USB flash stick (its just the file and the flash utility) the BIOS locks. I dont know if it's flashing or what it's doing.... If you recover this way, are you suppost to make a USB Flash drive that is bootable in DOS? or while its "locked up" is it actually flashing the bios to recover it ? I'm confused. I've left it for a good 10 minutes, still the same screen, still locked. Any help appreciated.

Best to remove Live Update from your system. Windows flashing is to dangerous as you have already discovered.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=160450.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=169794.0

Z87 MPower MAX around the corner

Z87 MPower MAX is about to hit the market. Very interesting product if wanting to go Haswell. Makes me want to have it.
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MSI Z87 MPower Max won't start

Hello everyone and sorry to bother you but I don't know what to do anymore.
I bought a MSI Z87 MPower Max and yesterday I tried to start but there is no signal of life. No sounds and no fans. The only signal is the power led on the motherboard.
Another strange thing is when I press to long (about 5 seconds) in the power button the clr_cmos led turn on.
I have already checked the psu cables, if the cpu is corrected placed and with only one stick of RAM in the slot number 2.
I always press the clr_cmos between new tries and this night in take of the motherboard batery and left out over night.
If anyone can help me I will be grateful because I don't know what to do anymore

I am sorry, here's the information. Thanks
Main Board: MSI Z87 MPower Max
Bios Version: Original one
Video Card: I don't have video card.
PSU: Fractal Design NEWTON R3 1000W
12v rail Rating of listed PSU: Single
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K
Memory: Kingston 16GB 2133-11XMP Predator (2x8Gb)
SSD: Samsung 250GB 840 Series
CPU COOLER: air cooler that comes with the cpu
Any Additional hardware plugged into your system: no additional hardware
OC: No
Operating System: no operating system installed yet

Is My MSI Z87 MPower MAX Safe?

Hi everyone!
May I ask is my MSI Z87 MPower Max safe?
Intel 4770K - Idle = 45 Degrees Celceius / Open For Long Time = 53 Degrees Celceius
MSI Z87 MPower Max = 42 Degree Celceius
Core 0 - 3 and Package - Idle = 40 Degress Celceius / Open For Long Time = 48 Degrees Celceius
May I know is that safe and normal? because I got the Noctua NH-D14 heatsink fan.
Thank you!

its safe!
for 4GHz CPU frequancy that temp is all good if it tops out below 75C when its under maximum load when you get around to testing it then its all good and you have nothing to worry about!
so try intel burn test till it hits maximum temp it runs at and see how hot it gets (remember any temp under 100C is safe but the lower the temp is under that the better!)
so get the cpu a maximum sustained load to see how high its temps go to and report back to us but it looks fine so far and maximum temp is the most important metric to have (idle and light load temps say very little as they sound totally fine so far)

Msi z87 mpower max overclocking

Hi , just bought a msi z87 mpower max 4770k , is there any guide to overclock to 4.4ghz 24/7 ? Thanks

If you are still crashing at 4.3 you may want to try clear CMOS button and then try using the OC Genie. There is a switch you can flip up next to the onboard button which throws a red LED. The OC will be 4.2 and you don't have to mess with anything. Probably won't be noticeable difference from 4.3 but you may notice less blue screen.
Ive been running at 4.5 stable 24/7 on manual OC until this weekend while Beta testing a game I started having all kinds of problems. The issues were probably on the game end I think related to dual monitor and borderless windowed mode, however I removed 2 mem sticks to 16G and reset CMOS and used OC genie. I can not retry the game until the weekend but this setup will run AIDA64 system test overnight with temps bouncing between 50-70 with all 4 cores at constant 100%. I could not get the system to stay stable in AIDA64 @4.4- 4.5- 4.6 although it would be stable for gaming and everyday use. I like OC manually but the button is so convenient for a non hassle. Benchmark score in the game(FFXIV) also went up from ~8000 to 8600 at 4.2. Probably due to taking GPU out of SLI(not supported by game yet).

MSI Z87 MPower Max-Chipset cooler-Passive,Mosfet cooler-Passive : what is that?

MSI Z87 MPower Max
specs are :
Chipset cooler-Passive,
Mosfet cooler-Passive
What does that mean for me as a buyer? is this coin for me?
thank u guys for help.

i found on this link those specs : http://uk.hardware.info/productinfo/186919/msi-z87-mpower-max#tab:specifications
tab : Cooling / Overclocking
Other boards have active cooling, so i dont know what exactly passive means for me. Asking so i dont buy cooler which is not good for board.

Z87 mpower max and intel 4770k

hi everyone may i know is it worth to enable the oc geniune for my z87 mpower max motherboard? is there any effects if i enable? (motherboard dies faster or something?)
awaiting for your reply.

Overclocking entails essentially to increase the CPU core clock above those that the manufacturer designed it for.
This process entails increasing nominal values which are in essence controls that are part and parcel of the motherboard. After all the motherboard is designed and built in accordance with the CPU manufacturers control specifications. Oc'ing also entails increasing memory speeds beyond the JEDEC standard. Components of the board also have to apply higher values to support the higher power demands of an overclocked CPU. i.e. the Mosfets amongst others.
The OC Genie is a "one stop" method that does it for you (works most of the time) and it takes due consideration of the max design values. In theory it should not affect the durability of the components. In reality it may. You could compare it to a car's engine. The manufacturer has a red line limitation for the engine RPM. Running at or just below the red line should thus be OK. It will probably last a reasonable time if operated that way, but logic tells me that it probably wont last as long as the sam engine being used within its maximum power and torque curve.
The question is, how long do you want your PC to last? With the ever new technology being released, the general user probably renews his PC every 3 to 5 years. So its a matter of deciding if you are prepared to take the risk and hope it lasts for the envisaged lifespan.

Z87 Mpower Max

Having issues not being able to adjust my CPU ratio for my 4770K through bios (currently running 1.2B8). Does not allow me to change my setting from 'auto' to 'manual'. Seems to be locked. Although, I can change the CPU multipliers through MSI Intel Extreme Tuning Utility and overclock from there with no problems getting 4.5ghz at 1.2 vcore.
Also, for those who have the Z87 Mpower Max, does the debug code not show temperatures like the Z77 mpower anymore? At the moment, mine only shows the debug code(s).

Is there a reason why I can overclock better and significantly have better temperatures with 1 stick of ram compared to 2 (dual channel mode)?
Just by going dual channel mode, my temperatures automatically go up by 20-30C under load and it gets even worse as I raise my vcore. Where as if I go single channel, I can throw a good amount of vcore and the temperatures will slowly progress. For example, if I use 1 stick of ram, I can easily attain 4.5 with 1.2 vcore with temperatures in the low 60's using prime. But if I go dual channel mode, temperatures rise by 20-30C, and goes to 80-90C, but it requires 1.25 vcore in order to be stable. Yes, I know the vcore is higher, but if I raised my vcore to 1.25 using single channel mode, the temperatures would be close as if I were still running 1.2vcore, somewhere in the low 60's. Like I said, raising my vcore in single channel does not raise my temperatures as dramatically as in dual channel mode. Another example, right now I am running at 4.8 with 1.37vcore with temperatures in the 70-80 C using prime. I wouldn't even be able to do this in dual channel because temperatures would hit 100C at 4.6 w/ 1.3vcore and eventually underclock.
I have tested both sticks in single channel and get the same overclock results. So, it has to do something with it being in dual channel.
My setup:
Intel I7 4770K
MSI Z87 Mpower Max
Corsair Dominator Platinums 2133 1.5v C9
EVGA GTX 780 SC
Corsair AX 850
Corsair H100i

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