Zalman CNPS7700-Cu/AlCu Heatsink on Neo2 K8T FIR ?

Does anyone know if the Zalman CNPS7700-Cu (http://www.zalmanusa.com/eng/product/view.asp?idx=145&code=005) or the Zalman CNPS7700-AlCu (http://www.zalmanusa.com/eng/product/view.asp?idx=146&code=005) Heatsinks fit on the Neo2 K8T FIR motherboard?
The original fan I got with my Athlon64 3000 939 is so noisy that I just have to change it.
At least i hope it is just a question of fan, because I get also a very high frequency barely hearable noise (because of the frequency) that puts real pressure on my ears.
Hope it's not the motherboard making that sound!?

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Originally posted by ivan
Does anyone know if the Zalman CNPS7700-Cu (http://www.zalm****a.com/eng/product/view.asp?idx=145&code=005) or the Zalman CNPS7700-AlCu (http://www.zalm****a.com/eng/product/view.asp?idx=146&code=005) Heatsinks fit on the Neo2 K8T FIR motherboard?
The original fan I got with my Athlon64 3000 939 is so noisy that I just have to change it.
At least i hope it is just a question of fan, because I get also a very high frequency barely hearable noise (because of the frequency) that puts real pressure on my ears.
Hope it's not the motherboard making that sound!?
Supposedly the 7700 will fit, But then since an XP-120 will Fit and the 7700 is not something I know too much about, I'll stick with the XP-120 of which I have on My Neo2-F and Yes I just purchased on ebay a Neo2-FIR for $93.00 So now I'll need a cpu(3200 90nm), heatsink(xp-90, As I already have a 92mm 119cfm fan in zoom1) and psu(520w Aspire) for It, As It's a cheap upgrade(As inexpensive as possible as I can get an xp90 for $38.00 plus shipping) of one of My present PCs, For Me a 92mm fan is ok, As the PC is in another room and the Keyboard, Video & Mouse is in the Front room of My house.

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P35 NEO2 FIR compatible with Zalman CNPS7700?

Can I install Zalman CNPS7700 Cu on P35 NEO2 FIR With E6750?
Thanks in advance.

I am not sure if it will fit. In any case, as far as I know the CNPS77000 Cu only has a 3-Pin FAN-Connector. The problem here is that the P35 Neo2-FIR (and all recent MSI Boards) have a 4-Pin CPU Fan Header. If you want to take advantage of the automatic CPU FAN regulation feature of the board, you need a CPU Cooler that has a 4-Pin FAN Connector.
Users have reported that the following CPU Coolers should fit for sure:
http://msi-forum.de/thread.php?postid=279500#post279500
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- Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
- Scythe Mugen SCINF-1000
- Scythe Ninja Plus SCNJ-1100P
- Thermaltake Blue Orb II CL-P0257
- Thermaltake Silent 775D CL-P0378
- Thermaltake TMG I1 CL-P0370
- Zalman CNPS 8000
- Zalman CNPS 9500 AT
- Zalman CNPS 9700 NT
I am not sure if there is a 4-Pin FAN connector in each case.

Using the Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu + Zalman ZM80D-HP VGA heatsink on MSI-K8N NEO-Platinum

Hi,
Im buying a Athlon 64 system very soon (today or tommorow) and have the following question regarding the MSI-K8N NEO-Platinum. I know the Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu fits on the mobo but it gets very close to the videocard. How close does it get? Can I still use the Zalman ZM80D-HP VGA heatsink? If anyone knows this please let me know.
Thanks in advance

Hi SirMurray,
I have the CNPS7000A-AlCu and the ZM80C-HP and the 7000A-AlCu is only about 2cm (maybe less) away from my graphics card. There is no way to have both the 7000A-AlCu and the ZM80C-HP (same goes for ZM80D-HP as Im 99% sure it is the exact same size as the ZM80C-HP) installed together without modifying the ZM80.
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What I did was to modify the ZM80 so that instead of the heatpipe going from the front to the back of the card as usual, it was turned around, so that the heatpipe now passes in front of the front-side heatsink. I then mounted the other heatsink (usually at the back of the card) so now both heatsinks are situated on one side of the card. Once I locked them in place with the little brackets they give you to join the two heatsinks it was done!
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MSI P35 Neo2-FR / FIR

Hello,
Yesterday my pc didn't start and my motherboard status led were stuck on all green.After I turned off the PSU and turn it on again the leds went to all 4 red. After an hour of powering on and off ( and 1 CMOS reset) it went on red green red red (ram failure). I kept trying while changing the ram position around but no luck. While doing my attempts I notice that only a few times did the leds blink confirming that the their status changed. Also i noticed that when the leds blinked , the pc fans were making more noise, normal to when the pc is on and working. The other times i noticed that the leds just kept their old colors and the fans were a bit quite than normal.A few times the leds changed from red green red red to all 4 red (cpu failure) and with the fan noise like when pc is working normally.
The day before I had the same problem but I managed to start the pc within the first hour.
Now i'm stuck at all 4 reds with no status change on them and fan noise lower meaning i think that is not getting to the point where is checking the cpu,ram etc.
PC Configuration:
- Motherboard : MSI P35 Neo2-FR / FIR BIOS Vs : 1.C
- CPU : Intel e8400 no OC
- PSU : Fortron Blue Storm II 500 W
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Update:
I removed the battery and reset the CMOS. After 2-3 hours i reinserted the battery and now the status led blink once to red green red red ( ram failure). I had this ram failure problem for a long time but i used to fix it by a CMOS reset or a few movement of the rams and was fine for a couple of months until it resurfaces at random.
I have tried 2 different rams and the same led status show. Also when i press the reset button, in 3 seconds the PC shutdown and restarts. Before yesterday pressing reset was just making the motherboard restart and the leds were blinking once again to show the status change but now no blink on the leds when i press reset.

MSI NEO2 P35 FIR on E8400 C0 problem

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Why on my mainboard msi neo2 P35 fir (v1.0),after I have updated bios 1.7 (1.9,1.10)I cannot raise up voltages of processor???
i can atjust only from 1.5volt to 1.9volt??? but i want do a little overlock of my e8400 C0 and raise up voltages to 1.2v or 1.3v...
all people who have e8400 have same problem...but who have quad core all is good, they can atjust from 1.2volt to 2.0volt
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"Clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU. After that load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS."
1. after that INTEL EIST is Enabled and now default cpu voltages 1.22v ,and i can set from 1.24 to 2.0125v..and there is no AUTO mode...(auto mode only in memory voltage and VTT voltage)
2. and after intel eist is enabled i can set cpu clock ratio this option is disabled.....
3. and i still cannot set cpu voltage to 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 1.19 1.20
4 when intel eist is disabled default cpu voltages is 1.500v but all utilities like CPUZ show 1.135 cpu voltages its ok , but when EIST is enabled default voltages are 1.22v and all utilities show that tempreture is 1.200v...its not ok...
or if i dont want to overclock my cpu i must set eist disabled ? and if i want to overclock cpu i must set eist enabled...and after that set cpu voltages to 1.2v or more...yes or no? ;/ and why if eist enabled clock ratio option is disabled? only way its manually set fsb clock,or its should be like that?

Zalman Cnps 7000a alcu

Is this cooler good for my system?
Does it fit in a Neo2 with a BFG 6800 GT OC?
Is it noisy? (compared to the stock HSF and compared to a Thermalright XP90)
Wich one is better for me? This Zalman or a Thermalright XP90?
Please help. I'll buy one of these two.

I have the same components as you and i can safely say that 7000A AlCu will fit on this motherboard with the BFG 6800GT OC.
It does come close to the video card and the first memory slot though.
So my advice is, have your memory installed before installing the cooler and don't try to put the Zalman VGA cooler on the BFG because it just won't fit.
(The stock BFG will have plenty of space though.)
As for performance, it's one of the best coolers out there.
It's cheaper than the Thermalright XP90 and it comes with a fan already installed.
As for noise.
I build my system in an Antec Sonata case
and the 7000A is the quietest thing in the case.
(And i have it set at the max speed, 2500 RPM)
It'll be easily dwarfed by the BFG's cooler (Not that it's unberably loud, but it's not exactly close to quiet either)
And one last thing, you might have to remove the back plate on the motherboard and install Zalman's own for the heatsink to be properly seated on the cpu.
If you're haveing problems try heating up the backplate with a hair dryer first.
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Don't try and pry it off with a tool (ie: a screwdriver) because you risk damaging the motherboard.
Just push the 2 extruding pins and pull on the back plate.
I was able to take it off with my hands and it was very firmly stuck on there.
It's a bit of a pain but if your take your time i'll come off.
I think that about covers it.
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975X Platinum Power Up Edition X Zalman CNPS7700

Is compatible???
thanx
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hi there, welcome to forum.
hard to say, but you can determinate yourself, by checking compatibility and requirements:
think it will fit but I'm worry about to close range/distance and big heatstick to the CPU socket. make measurement and determinate will fit or not.if its a problem, he can be replaced and then zalman can fit. read more about link below.
CNPS7700-Cu Requirements:
* Note : No motherboard components with a height greater than 39mm (1.53inch), as well as the
PSU, disk drives, VGA card, and RAM should be present within a 68mm (2.68 inch)
radius from the center of the CPU.
Consult here CNPS7700 Compatible Socket 775 Motherboard List:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/product/cooler/7700-775MBlist_eng.htm
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Try setting the network speed to 10/100Mbps half.
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MOVED: MSI NEO2 P35 FIR on E8400 C0 problem

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=121755.0

"Clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU. After that load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS."
1. after that INTEL EIST is Enabled and now default cpu voltages 1.22v ,and i can set from 1.24 to 2.0125v..and there is no AUTO mode...(auto mode only in memory voltage and VTT voltage)
2. and after intel eist is enabled i can set cpu clock ratio this option is disabled.....
3. and i still cannot set cpu voltage to 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 1.19 1.20
4 when intel eist is disabled default cpu voltages is 1.500v but all utilities like CPUZ show 1.135 cpu voltages its ok , but when EIST is enabled default voltages are 1.22v and all utilities show that tempreture is 1.200v...its not ok...
or if i dont want to overclock my cpu i must set eist disabled ? and if i want to overclock cpu i must set eist enabled...and after that set cpu voltages to 1.2v or more...yes or no? ;/ and why if eist enabled clock ratio option is disabled? only way its manually set fsb clock,or its should be like that?

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cooling. pc never crashed when i first built the pc, so i cleaned it out spotless everything dust free. still crashes.
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please help me. i am soo confused
cheers .

Hi,
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when looking up the exact name for my motherboard i realized i might have installed the wrong driver the (p45) version, so first of i want to know how to check but i am pretty sure there not.
Well, the only driver package out there is the Intel .INF Driver package which supports a whole range of different chipset, including P35, P45, 975X, P965 etc. That is why installing the wrong chipset driver is rather hard. The installation routine will pick out the proper drivers for the chipset it finds. Check all the entries in Windows Device Manager. I am sure you will find no indication of the P45 Chipset.
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please help me. i am soo confused
Work with one memory module only (for now) and start with clearing CMOS (while the main A/C power cable is disconnected from your PSU) after removing one memory module. Then load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS after that and check your system's stability again.
Run Memtest86+ to check the RAM for errors (make sure that each of the 10 tests pass at least twice).
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tends to crash when playing grapical heavy apps or + music (inbuilt sound card)
Disable the Onboard Sound in BIOS for testing purposes. Also, try to keep your video card out of the game as well. Run Prime95 to put your processor under full load and check its Core Temperatures with Core Temp and/or Real Temps. A few links to speed things up:
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/
http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=103 (Prime95)
Can you see any indication of the system (NB) temperature when you run SpeedFan and/or Everest Ultimate?
Also, remove/unplug all extra components your do not need for testing (second hard drive, unneeded USB Devices, Card Readers etc., Optical Drives etc.). Also, please change the SATA Cable of your system hard drive (just for the heck of it) and test the system hard drive with a diagnostic tool provided by the hard drive manufacturer.
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tends to crash when playing grapical heavy apps
Do you have another video card for testing? Or: Can you borrow one from a friend, neighbour etc.?
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temps of cpu when crashing 54 c not overclocked but has been before, but then started crashing so took overclock off. then there was 2 months of fine clear stable then the crashing started
Mh, a problem with your CPU is a possible explanation as well. Can you test a different processor on your system?

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