Zalman CNS 7000 AlCu & Prescott Core & neo2 pls

So I installed this Fan and really liked the quietness of it till I added a load then I was was running at 55-57 Degrees cel!!!! where as with stock I was at 45-50 Cel
back to stock for now
maybe the All copper would be better....
Anyone else have any similar problems with Prescott?
BTW checked seating....fanmate was turned up to full.......

Hope everyone had a fine Christian/Pagan celebrate the Christ Rising/worship the Rabbit...compromise Holiday!!!!
Well I added an older thermaltake fan control/temp sensor unit........
I put the back fan in the front as intake where there is room for one more ( going to get another)
Side is intake (I added a Startech High Flow Mesh air filter made of aluminum!!!... thought it'd quieter than the plastic and foam.. and boy this sucker is loud not turned down... still think the foam filter would be more restrictive and therefore louder)
Top is exhaust
The front fan is loud as ALL HELL due to the minimal clearance around the fan due to my drives and the fact it's pulling from between the front bezel and the case more than through the vent holes in the bezel and adding another fan there is going to be LOUDER... but I put that sucker on fan control and I can turn it way down....a little creative cardboard use and I could isolate a tunnel from the case to vent holes in the bezel but then I'm sure I'd be loud as hell and restricting airflow......
But so far.....I've gained only about 2-3 degrees cel from moving everything around(52 cel under load)..and turning everything on full blast...( she is very nice and quiet all turned down and stays at 38-42 idle )I'm not going to scoff at it..i'll take all I can get....
So I plan on adding another front fan....then I am seriously looking into some sort of straight funnel to aim the side intake it straight at the CPU.....anyone have any suggestions....I am gonna hit home depot....but if anyone has any ideas especially about mounting the tube..as in a good piece of hardware to use (no flexy too ghetto..too short a run..and If add a zalman 7000 later I'd like the stiff in place tube cause I'll never be able to "seal-up" to the fan) ...I've seen the kits with the flexy tube...and they have some nice plastic mounting plates .....if I can find one of those and a precut piece of PVC...golden I would be.... I live in an apartment.....And might have access to a Dremel....but the less mess the better chances of my girlfriend not kicking me and my Box out on the street.. the PSU chimney included in these kits is dream and would allow back ports to be used as intakes no problem if I could find one separate..that'd be great..I'm sure I could fashion one somehow...but again trying to not make much of a mess and don't want to be too ghetto...http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/cooling/cooling%20series-overclockers%20cooler%20kit.htm
So with the tube...Then If I decide to add any rear fans... they won't suck the fresh air directly from the side intake....(think adding one or two in the back would help????or is this just adding too much useless crapola?) Agian...I do for sure plan on added another front fan

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Does anyone know if the Zalman CNPS7700-Cu (http://www.zalmanusa.com/eng/product/view.asp?idx=145&code=005) or the Zalman CNPS7700-AlCu (http://www.zalmanusa.com/eng/product/view.asp?idx=146&code=005) Heatsinks fit on the Neo2 K8T FIR motherboard?
The original fan I got with my Athlon64 3000 939 is so noisy that I just have to change it.
At least i hope it is just a question of fan, because I get also a very high frequency barely hearable noise (because of the frequency) that puts real pressure on my ears.
Hope it's not the motherboard making that sound!?

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Originally posted by ivan
Does anyone know if the Zalman CNPS7700-Cu (http://www.zalm****a.com/eng/product/view.asp?idx=145&code=005) or the Zalman CNPS7700-AlCu (http://www.zalm****a.com/eng/product/view.asp?idx=146&code=005) Heatsinks fit on the Neo2 K8T FIR motherboard?
The original fan I got with my Athlon64 3000 939 is so noisy that I just have to change it.
At least i hope it is just a question of fan, because I get also a very high frequency barely hearable noise (because of the frequency) that puts real pressure on my ears.
Hope it's not the motherboard making that sound!?
Supposedly the 7700 will fit, But then since an XP-120 will Fit and the 7700 is not something I know too much about, I'll stick with the XP-120 of which I have on My Neo2-F and Yes I just purchased on ebay a Neo2-FIR for $93.00 So now I'll need a cpu(3200 90nm), heatsink(xp-90, As I already have a 92mm 119cfm fan in zoom1) and psu(520w Aspire) for It, As It's a cheap upgrade(As inexpensive as possible as I can get an xp90 for $38.00 plus shipping) of one of My present PCs, For Me a 92mm fan is ok, As the PC is in another room and the Keyboard, Video & Mouse is in the Front room of My house.

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The stock Intel fan is LOUD-----it's horrible----and his one requirement is a quiet machine.
I like the Zalman 7000 AlCu------light, quiet and better than stock cooling.
Anybody use it or it's cousin the 7000A Cu on the PT880 board??.
I just want to verify it will fit.
Other suggestions for quiet coolers welcome....
John

Yes, they will both fit. I am using the 7000A Cu at the moment but am expecting my new cooler to arrive tomorrow. I want to overclock a little further and up some voltages so I need something more. I'm going with the Thermalright SP94U. It's pretty much the best air cooler you can get at the moment without sticking a 2 pound monster (Coolermaster Hyper 6) to your board. The 7000A Cu would be enough for your unoverclocked 3.0C. The AlCu might do the job too but I would be more inclined to recommend the all copper Cu model.

Weird 865G Neo2 PLS OC Problem

Ok, I consider myself a pretty good overclocker, but this has confused me to no end. Ok here is the situation. I got a neo 2 pls 865, with a p4 3.0 E prescott. I have 3 sets of ram I have been using to get an overclock, 1 512 kingston value ram, 4 256 Vdata, and dual channel kingson hyper X (performance ram) all PC 3200. I know the kingson hyper X can overclock pretty far from my AMD 64 overclocks.
Ok so I got this 3.0 at fsb at 225 for a 3375 clock witch is OK, but Im sure I should be able to go further. Oh and that is with the mem at 333, so memory is running 391, still way under stock. And just to let you know it runs fine stock with memory running at 400.
Ok so I turn up the fsb a little more like 231 ta 235 and I get tons of errors on memtest. So I clock the ddr clock to 266, (so the memory is running at like 312) and it still errors at around 67% of memtest. That was all with the kingston valuel ram and vdata stuff. So I put my kingston hyper X that I was thinking was going to run fine, but still SAME EXACT PROBLEM. :0(
Sorry for the long post, got any help? Need more data? CPU and RAM voltage are stock.
THANKS FOR ALL HELP.

The MoBo model/version is printed between the PCI slots.
Important thing is to separate the "old" 865 Neo2 from the "new" 865 Neo2 P-series.
According to your description - 865G Neo2 PLS - you´ve got the newer P-serie MoBo and you should use the 3.x biosversions.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=557&kind=1
I believe 3.8 and 3.A are considered to be the best versions.
Don´t get fooled by the 3.31a figures - this is the biosflashprogram version and not the actual MoBo bios version.
The warning text about "cannot be used on the 865PE/G Neo2" - is related to the old 865 series.
I see no need for you to go below 333mhz RAM speed, that should be enough up to a 250FSb OC.
If you have trouble with that, the reason would be something else.
To get best RAM performance you should run 2x512 ( or 4x256) RAM, in dual channel mode.
You may need to raise your RAM voltage to 2.7v ( as dcasole already suggested) and be sure that AGP/PCI is locked to 66/33.
It is possible that the onboard Graphics could limit your OC ponetial as well - Tried with AGP Graphiccard ?
You also may have to raise the cpu voltage in the end, but be a bit carful with the prescott since it got it own flexibel voltage/ thermal control. No more then 1.5v. - Also recommend a good cpu cooler and good case airflow.
You should be able to reach 3,6Ghz (240FSB) if your cpu has a "normal" potential.
Your PSU is too weak on the 12v line - we usually recommmend 20amps or above with a prescott cpu and OC.
Even more if you would get a high end VGA card.

What is the reason behind not supporting 3.4 GHZ Prescott core?

I wonder why my MSI 865PE Neo2-LS (MS-6728) does not support the 3.4 GHZ Prescott core . I thought all 865PE chipset could support 3.4 GHZ Prescott core . My board support 3.4GHZ but Northwood core only, and you know guys how difficult to find 3.4c.
I am using now 2.8E and I feel that this processor is not enough for my Geforce 6800 GT, this card can do better with 3.4E for sure.
I managed to overclock the 2.8E up to 3.466 and it was stable, the difference in performance was clear.
My games run much faster now, but I hate to use program like Core Center to overclock,
I always prefer the BIOS to overclock my computer. After feeling the different between the 2.8 and 3.4 i decided to buy the 3.4E but i shocked when i check the CPU support list for my board that it is not supporting 3.4 Prescott core,
not only the 3.4E also the 3.2E is not supported and all Celeron D are not supported. They wrote in the board website that the board is "Prescott Ready" and support up to 3.2 and higher speed.
MSI have boards lower class than my board and they are supporting 3.2E and 3.4E without problem and also support all Celeron D, I don't understand why my board does not support this speeds?

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Your board was designed and produced before the final power requirements for Prescott cpu's were finalized.
I think that is the reason, and it may explain why MSI close the v-core option in their BIOS also.
I know that it is difficult to get an answer to my question in MSI Forum, because MSI Support should have the answer to my question, but if I send an E-mail to MSI Support all what I will get is the automatic reply only, that’s why I wrote this topic, because I know that I will find an answer that will satisfy me in this Forum.
Thanks a lot Danny, this mean if i want to change the CPU i should change the Motherboard too.
This time i will go for AMD and stop using INTEL CPU's .

Neo2-PLS fails to POST

hey guys, i just recently got a Neo2-PLS and the Prescott 2.8GHz. i previously had a 1.6GHz, so i had two processors to test. The first time i used the 1.6GHz, turned it on, and the D-bracket showed all red. i double checked the CPU and everything looked fine to me, although i did smell something funny. I put my 2.8GHz in and the same thing occured. the 2.8 is brand new. do you think i could've fried the motherboard and that was what the smell was? or could it be another problem? thanks guys!
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Cant oc 865pe neo2 pls more than 3.19

i have
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i think i need to change my multiplier is this true if so how do i do and what do i do
thanx for the help if u can

Hi - Please write your complete pc config. next time, because it is easier for people to help it they know your pc components - You can do it by login - profile - signatur
Intel cpu multiplier is not possible to change- it´s locked ( to 14 in your case )
but try changes in bios as a start...........................
The 2,8 cpu is not the best OC chip ( except the M0 stepping ) so you may only reach to about 230FSB ( 3,22 Ghz).
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MAT/DOT Set to OFF
DRAM FREQUENCY = 333 ( means 5:4 ) - if you have ddr400 / 3200 mem, otherwise if you have ddr500 you can go 1:1 with auto.
SPREAD SPECTRUM = OFF
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AGP/PCI FREQUENCY = 66/33 or whatever is closest to that
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Memory = SPD or Your manufacturer's memory timings
AGP Aperture = 64MB
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Max VDIMM on 865G neo2 pls?

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865G Neo2-PLS BIOS prob

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I flashed my bios, but now my pc doesnt boot (hangs during Early Chipset Initialization). What would be the correct version for my mobo? I think i have a 865G Neo2-PLS (it says 865G Neo2-P, MS-6728 V2.0 on the mobo), i got VGA, LAN and audio onboard.

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http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=557&kind=1
If you got boot-problems after flash - Try clear cmos ( see jumper instructions in manual - remove powercable first ) and if that do not help try Bios recovery (AMI)
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_list.php?kind=1&CHIP=Archives&ID=46
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Zalman cnps 7000(A/B) and K8N Neo2 backplate

Hi,
Tried this question before, in an existing cpu cooler thread, but without luck.
Could anyone confirm that the zalman cnps7000(A/B) coolers can be used with K8N Neo2 stock backplate works or if the zalman backplate have to be used ?
Thanks.....
From SAB´s FAQ.....
Zalman has revised the fastening types in their 7000 series HSF's - and choosing the proper model will ensure that the stock MSI backing plate removal is not required.

Thanks blazing storm.....
Yes, It would be good to have a confirmation about mounting the 7000 cooler with the Stock MSI backplate.
I´m not that worried about the cooler fitting the the board itself, but on the Zalman mounting picture they seem to use the zalman backplate.

865PE Neo2-PLS users running on Prescott 3.0Ghz and above please come in

It's showing garbage for the cpu voltage in my bios and for those who read my previous posts know what I mean as I had posted the pictures before. I have flashed with different bios ver, tested using different psu, graphics, rams but no luck. Tested using different cpu on my mobo, the voltage showing correctly but they are northwood as I can't find spare prescott to test on my mobo.
I just called intel support to RMA and told them it's problem with the processor but I can't convince them
They want me to test my cpu on another mobo to test it out first but I can't find a spare 1
Anyone experienced garbage reading for cpu voltage so far using this mobo with prescott 3.0Ghz and above? Thanks

Well sad to say I forgot to ask them at the distro center haha coz I thought the problem lies on my mobo and hoping to get 1-1 exchange but when they showed me correct reading for the voltage when they tested my mobo using other cpu, I'm lost trying to figure out what could be the problem you see...
I did mail them today asking did they test my mobo using a prescott but I guess the earliest I can get their reply is tomorrow as they are closed today. Well I might be paying them another visit and ask them to test my prescott on other mobo as well the it's far from where I'm staying
Anyway now I just want to know if any users using this 865PE Neo2 P series mobo showing garbage for cpu voltage when using prescott 3.0Ghz and above to confirm. I guess I'm the only 1 so far haha

Zalman Cnps 7000a alcu

Is this cooler good for my system?
Does it fit in a Neo2 with a BFG 6800 GT OC?
Is it noisy? (compared to the stock HSF and compared to a Thermalright XP90)
Wich one is better for me? This Zalman or a Thermalright XP90?
Please help. I'll buy one of these two.

I have the same components as you and i can safely say that 7000A AlCu will fit on this motherboard with the BFG 6800GT OC.
It does come close to the video card and the first memory slot though.
So my advice is, have your memory installed before installing the cooler and don't try to put the Zalman VGA cooler on the BFG because it just won't fit.
(The stock BFG will have plenty of space though.)
As for performance, it's one of the best coolers out there.
It's cheaper than the Thermalright XP90 and it comes with a fan already installed.
As for noise.
I build my system in an Antec Sonata case
and the 7000A is the quietest thing in the case.
(And i have it set at the max speed, 2500 RPM)
It'll be easily dwarfed by the BFG's cooler (Not that it's unberably loud, but it's not exactly close to quiet either)
And one last thing, you might have to remove the back plate on the motherboard and install Zalman's own for the heatsink to be properly seated on the cpu.
If you're haveing problems try heating up the backplate with a hair dryer first.
It'll loosen the glue on the MSI backplate.
Don't try and pry it off with a tool (ie: a screwdriver) because you risk damaging the motherboard.
Just push the 2 extruding pins and pull on the back plate.
I was able to take it off with my hands and it was very firmly stuck on there.
It's a bit of a pain but if your take your time i'll come off.
I think that about covers it.
Hope this helps.

Zalman CNPS-7000-CU HSF on K6T-delta board

Is anyone running a zalman-7000-CU heatsink with a 92mm fan on the K6T-Delta boards. When you check the compatability chart on the zalman website they don't list it as compatable. but they do mention it can be used on socket A(462) systems.
Just wondering if someone has experience with this setup before I go and buy one and it does'nt fit.
Thanks in advance

Quote from: stevehp on 22-February-05, 12:23:18
This HSF needs the four holes around the socket for mounting so no it's not compatible plus if the holes did exist caps might get in the way. Pretty much all of the Zalmans products don't have clip based mounting systems for socket a as it would have too much stress for the socket lugs.
WERD! Been there and done that.Says good for 462,but my board and pretty sure the Delta does not have the 4 mounting holes drilled in the board

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