ZCM11 SP2 Beta 1 - 32- vs 64-bit Mac agent

So I have an iMac (4,1) running Snow Leopard.
I tried installing the 32-bit Mac agent and it complained
Package intended for 32 bit architecture
Exiting with error code 237.
so I installed the 64-bit agent - it was happy.
I then logged out and back in to activate the agent but it isn't happy -
I get a ZENworks Adaptive Agent dialog popup with the error "Cannot load
64-bit SWT libraries on 32-bit JVM".
$ java -version
java version "1.6.0_26"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03-384-10M3425)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 20.1-b02-384, mixed mode)
$ uname -a
Darwin <host>.<domain> 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7
16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
System Software Overview in System Profiler has No recorded against
64-bit Kernel and Extensions.
So yes Java is 32-bit but so is Mac OS X.
Q1) How can I uninstall the (64-bit) Mac agent?
Q2) Should I be installing the 32- or 64-bit Mac agent?
I'm thinking I should be installing the 32-bit Mac agent so
Q3) How can I install the 32-bit Mac agent?
Thanks.
Simon
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On 01/11/2011 16:39, Simon Flood wrote:
> So I have an iMac (4,1) running Snow Leopard.
>
> I tried installing the 32-bit Mac agent and it complained
>
> Package intended for 32 bit architecture
> Exiting with error code 237.
>
> so I installed the 64-bit agent - it was happy.
>
> I then logged out and back in to activate the agent but it isn't happy -
> I get a ZENworks Adaptive Agent dialog popup with the error "Cannot load
> 64-bit SWT libraries on 32-bit JVM".
>
> $ java -version
> java version "1.6.0_26"
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03-384-10M3425)
> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 20.1-b02-384, mixed mode)
> $ uname -a
> Darwin <host>.<domain> 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7
> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
>
> System Software Overview in System Profiler has No recorded against
> 64-bit Kernel and Extensions.
>
> So yes Java is 32-bit but so is Mac OS X.
>
> Q1) How can I uninstall the (64-bit) Mac agent?
>
> Q2) Should I be installing the 32- or 64-bit Mac agent?
>
> I'm thinking I should be installing the 32-bit Mac agent so
>
> Q3) How can I install the 32-bit Mac agent?
For anyone following this thread I've now logged bug #728888.
Simon
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