Zen Micro 2.20.05 and Undocking method

Well I upgraded to 2.20.05 and I am happy to report it is working great and synching great with my Yahoo music subscription! I didn't even lose any songs during the upgrade.
My question is that when I undocked after the upgrade I still got the bad "file rebuilding" screen. I hoped that this v2 upgrade would fix that. I had thought I read that this the file rebuilding too often is not good for the micro?
Is there a special way I should undock (from usb/pc) to prevent that? Was this even an upgrade in the latest v2?
Brenda
Who has a Zen Micro (5gb) that runs great and wants to keep it that way!

brcrn wrote:
RBBrittain - Do you do something different than just unplug your micro to not get that file rebuilding screen? ie lock, etc? I get it most of the time when I unplug mine, but not always, but I can never figure out exactly what I've done different when I don't get it.
Does anyone know the "correct" way to undock? Mine never shows up in xp to remove hardware safely so I just end up unplugging it (of course not in the middle of any action)
I don't think I do anything "special" while undocking. I think the biggest thing I do is that I usually let it charge via USB, and after charging it eventually goes into "idle shutdown".
MTP players don't show up in Remove Hardware Safely; generally only removable dri'ves (MSC devices, including MuVo/Zen Nano/Neeon players, plus the Micro in "removable disk" mode) do. With the Micro, you know when it's OK to unplug by looking at the arrows on the Docked screen: Gray (filled) arrows mean don't unplug, while white (unfilled) arrows mean it's OK to unplug.

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