Zen Micro Install Problems -- H

Hello All,
I just got my Zen Micro yesterday and I've been up all night trying to get the thing working so please bear with me.
The problem that I'm having is I install the software from the CD it says that installation is complete but every time I connect the Micro to the computer the found new hardware icon comes up but then the found new hardware wizard runs and wants me to install the software again. I've read hundreds of post regarding this problem and have tried a lot of the suggestions given but still no luck. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the software more times than I can remember right now also with no luck.
Key Points
Firmware version is .02.05
When I connect the Micro there is no docking screen it goes straight to now playing.
It does show up in device manager and when I double click on it the following is displayed:
This device is not configured correctly. (Code )
To reinstall the drivers for this device, click Reinstall Driver
I click on reinstalled driver and again the found new hardware wizard starts I tell I'll fine the driver myself but when I look in the creative folder there is nothing there. I click on the driver tab and it tells me
Driver Provider - Unkonwn
Driver Date - Unavaliable
Driver Version - Not Avaliable
Digital Signer - Not digitally Signed
I click on the details tab and get the following which I have no idea what it means.
USB\VID_04E&PID_4E\00525503908B
I've tried running both WMP 0 and Zen Media explorer and both tell me there is no device connected.
Whew I'm pooped
My only option at this point is to take it back to Circuit City and get another one but I'm affriad the same thing might happen.
Any help would be greatly apreciated.
Thanks.

Hi! Returning it isn't the solution you are right.
First you might want to clean the disk and reboot it. You do that by shutting it off. Take off the battery back slide the battery out then put it back in and hold the on button on for a few seconds and a
reboot screen will come one. has a clean disk, reboot. I would do that first.
If you want to use a download service for music other than napster you need to upgrade your
firmware. I wanted it for real rhapsody so chose the play for sure download. Had a little trouble
getting it to recognize the machine but it did.
You also need to check the device manager. Right click My Computer, left click properties, check
device manager to make sure the Micro is in the USB bus ports with no problem.
If there is a problem you might click on it and make sure the device is enabled.
I love mine now that i've gone through the installation hassles. Great sound easy to use.
Just not easy to get started.

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application software - they will install on Windows 98 SE without problems.
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Message Edited by eazysct on 2-3-2005 08:27 AM

dennis75 wrote:
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This is what worked for me. Hope it works for you.
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By "MTP media explorer", do you mean the MTP/PlaysForSure version of Zen Micro Media Explorer? The earlier versions say "(for MTP devices)"; the latest ones say "(for PlaysForSure devices)". Or do you mean the Microsoft "MTP icon" in My Computer, which should appear on all MTP-capable systems (including your laptop)?
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just wanted to share you my sollution to the connection probs with my Zen Micro. I have installed the MTP version of the firmware and found out it did connected to my machien (media player sync works) however media explorer was not able to install properly (it could not detect the device during install).
I found out that if I closed Acti'vesync (so it is not using the USB probing) it could detect the Zen Micro during install and media explorer installed properly. After this it only detects the zen micro whenever Acti'vesync is not syncing with my PPC or smartphone.
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the only think that works are the volume (just up and down, but not click) and the hold on position. the other think outside the pad seems works well, it can connect to PC, can delete file, and so on.
i just put it without battery some days and when try to re-use, it works perfectly!
now i've upgrade the firmware to .0 and go back to the official released avaiable, and that happens again! but now also the volume pad don't work at all...
I think that it's only a software problem, but i can't reboot the player because my pad don't works !!!
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sorry for my bad english,
regards

Lord_Dalamar wrote:
but when i insert the battery and press the hold on the rescue menu appears, but the same button don't work for turn the zen off.
If the controls aren't working in Rescue Mode the player is faulty unfortunately. You need to contact Creative Support.

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Looking for a little help and this seems to be the right place to get, lots of helpful people!I have a 3 year old Zen Micro, 4/5Gb I think and it worked fine with my old Dell laptop which ran XP, I used to drag and drop mpg files easily with the bundled software, all was well. Back in January the Dell laptop reached the end of it's life and I layed my hands on a new Sony Vaio laptop, running the all singing, all dancing brand new shiney Windows Vista. For whatever reason, I had no need for the MP3 player for most of this this summer and now I've come to need it again and it obviously needs updating (all my music is 6 months out of date) and it seems I've lost the original software disc, bummer. So I downloaded the ZenCast Organiser & Sync software off the Creative site as it said it ran withVista and plug in the Micro and .........nothing.
The Sync manager thing just says that there's no player attatched and it won't hook up. Am I missing something? Do I need another driver for it'sor something I've had a look through this site and all. I seem to be able to find is what I've already downloaded. Help!

MiniMan64 wrote:
ow stupid is this though! Why aren't Creative releasing any updates to allow older players to work on new machines?!
Well they are releasing updates, the trouble is you need the old OS to apply them. I suspect there's technical reasons for updates not working on newer OS's. After all Creative couldn't anticipate Vista problems when making older devices (Vista wouldn't have been on hand to test at the time).
BTW Firmware upgrades can be found here (UK version)
or here. (US)
Gift.

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