Zen Micro - MTP playback control functional

I want to buy a zen micro v2 which supports MTP.
I know that the v2 version of Zen Micro is MTP enabled player.
Microsoft has released MTP specification 0.83, which does not have playback control functionality. Mocrosoft has said that it will release the specification for this playback control in one or two months of time.But they have released an intermediate version of this MTP which has this playback control functionality.
A scenario to understand my question:
When you connect Zen Micro to a car stereo system, you can not control its playback functionality from the car stereo's head unit. To be more specific you can not issue Play/Pause/Stop/Volume increase/Volume decrease commands from the car stereo's head unit.
So please tell whether zen micro has this support? If not will it be providing this functionality in the coming months?
please suggest me any other Zen palyers which has this functionality.
Thanks in advance,
Regards.

DM, the Micro's remote control works exactly as you suggested; it's an inline remote that plugs into the headphone jack, and the headphones plug into the remote.
Unfortunately, I think the problem is more along the lines of car audio manufacturers' willingness to design a physical interface between a car stereo and the Micro than anything in the MTP spec. Microsoft can enable this kind of control in the MTP spec all it wants to, but until manufacturers are willing to use physical interfaces other than the iPod dock connector, it's all for naught.

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