Zen Micro: Re-ordering tracks in a playli

Hi. I love my new Zen Micro, there is just one thing that I haven't worked out with it yet.
Can you, and how do you, change the order of tracks in a playlist, and in the Now Playing playlist screen? I just want to be able to move a single track up or down in the list. I remember being able to do this with my old old Zen USB2.0 by just choosing 'move' or something like that after pressing the menu button. No such thing seems to be in the menu on the Micro.
If it turns out that this is not a current feature, may I make a polite request that it be implemented in a future firmware release? I'd think it'd be a pretty simple thing to add, and without it, the ability to create playlists on the fly is a bit crippled, don't you think?
Thanks.

"may I make a polite request that it be implemented in a future firmware release?"

just wondering... I just got a Zen Micro, and have only visited these forums for days...
I've seen a few other folks in these forums request, demand, suggest that functions be added to firmware updates.
Is Creative actually in the habit of adding ANY additional functionality to any existing product, through firmware? Or do they just save those ideas for new products, and make us buy those instead?
trying to be the realist - looking for historical behaviour ;-)

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Suppose I have a playlist with 00 songs in it already in the Zen Micro. I make another playlist and this one has some of
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to be placed in the new playlist or do I wind up with duplicates in the new playlist? In this example
I would be loading new songs to the Zen Micro, not creating a new playlist from songs already
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I just purchased a Zen Micro and am just learning how to use it.
Thanks for your help,
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The playlist can have duplicates in it, of course playlists are just shortcuts to tracks so you aren't creating duplicate physical files on the player.
Notmad Explorer?has a function for removing duplicates from playlists.

Zen Micro, WMA, Track number tag

Here is my problem : the track number tag of all my wma files contains 0(zero) on my Zen Micro, whereas it is fine on my PC !
I tried to use only the WM/TrackNumber tag... no succes !
I tried to use only the WM/Track tag... no success !
I tried to use both tags... no success !
Next, I modifed the track number tag directly using the Zen Micro Media Explorer. This works BUT if I transfer the wma file from my audio device to my PC and back from my PC to my Zen Micro then the track number tag contains 0 again !
Are you guys aware of this bug ?
Is the Creative tech support aware of it ?
Thank you in advance for any help.Message Edited by giom on 04-2-2005 2:40 AM

OK, just for you (and to satisfy my own curiousity), I ripped?two tracks using?the WMA 9. codec and Easy CD-DA Extractor?(with metadata enabled of course) at 64 kbit/s to the PC. I copied it using MediaSource 3.0.09 to my Zen Micro (.02.05). The track data including track number is still there.
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<IMG src="http://www.stainlesssteelrat.net/Pictures/20050420/Image2.jpg">Message Edited by SSR on 04-2-2005 0: AM

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I?ve had a quick search through the archi'ves on this found similar stuff but not this one.
Ok I have my albums in the player using the Zen Explorer. My problem is all the track numbers are 0.
I don?t want to go to each on and type numbers because I am right lazy! So can you somehow select all the
Track numbers and get the program to assign a track number?
With them being all zero or a mixture of 0 ? - 5 etc does this affect the way the zen micro plays them back?
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Most tagging programs will do this for you. I use MP3 Library, where you select the tracks and assuming they're in order you just select the automatic option, and save all, then it autonumbers.
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Question regarding transfering tracks from current Zen Micro to new Zen V Pl

Thank You in advance to anyone who can assist me.
I just ordered a new Zen V Plus and will want to get all my tracks on it when it arri'ves. My current player is a Zen Micro 5GB and I've loved it but as of late have been having problems with one of the touch pad buttons and, of course, it's out of warrenty. I just found the Zen V Plus 4GB on sale for $59.99 which I feel is a great price point so I bought one. So regarding the issue of getting my music from the Micro to the V Plus, is there a way to transfer from one to the other or would I have to somehow transfer onto my PC then to the V Plus?
Second question I just thought of, Can I use a memory stick(USB Flash Dri've) to back-up my tracks?
Thanks again,
Mark in San Diego

Hi,
You could transfer the music content of your Zen Micro to your Zen V Plus without transferring it to the PC first. Do the following steps:
. Connect one player at a time in your PC (XP O/S) and make sure that both of the player is detected.
2. If Windows have detected it, click on the option Open to View Files.
3. Open up the Music folder of both players.
4. From there, copy and paste whatever music tracks you would like to transfer from Zen Micro to Zen V Plus.
It's a good idea to have a back up of all your data and you could use a USB Flash dri've to store it all.
Hope this hel
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When you order your Zen Micro, make sure you know what you're getti

I recently about a 5gb Zen Micro Mp3 player and went through a lot of trouble to get it, but I learned a lot. Read on:
First, there are two types of packaging for Zen Micros, one that includes only the player, the cords, the manual, the software, a pouch and the battery, and another that also has a case with stand and belt clip attachments. Most of the retailers are selling both for the same price and many of them have them both in stock at the same time. The boxes are two different sizes and the larger one (almost 0'by 7') has the case and attachments. Get your money's worth and ask what's the box.
Second, NEVER NEVER NEVER buy from a company in British Columbia, Canada called Can Computer (www.cancomputer.com). It is BY FAR the WORST retailer I've EVER come into contact with!
I ordered from this company after doing a little bit of research and they seemed like a decent company. I was WRONG. I ordered my player. A day later they called me to tell me that the colour I wanted was sold out but hadn't been posted on the website, so I picked a new colour. The company only ships by reg mail so after a week of waiting, I got my mp3 player in the mail.
Now, when you buy the player from a decent retailer, as I did afterwards from The Source by Circuit City, the box is rapped in plastic and the inside box is taped. Everything in the box is packaged and sealed including the battery and the software. Everything is neatly placed in the box and the player is untouched and is protected by plastic stri
ps.
The battery is outside the player. This is the way they should all be according to Creative Labs and all the other retailers I've spoken to.
When I received my supposedly "new" player from Can Computer, there was no outside plastic, the seal on the inside of the box was broken. The outside AND inside was covered in dirt. The inside contents looked like they had been dumped out onto a dirty floor and thrown back in again. Everything was opened, including the software. The battery was already inside the player and it was covered in dirt. When I took it out of the player, there was a piece of tape (the kind of scotch tape you get on a roll) holding the top of the battery together and the casing was warped. My manual was mangled. On top of that, there were parts missing from my box. I received the box that should have included the casing and the attachments. Neither were there. Also missing were my warranty cards and the casing to the manual. The cords that I receieved were not creative merchandise. As you can imagine, I wasn't very happy.
When I called the company, the Sales Manager was incredibly rude to me. He refused to apologise and seemed to make every effort to deter me from getting refund. He tried to tell me that it was normal for the player to arri've that way and that tape on the battery was something that was normal. He also said he would only refund my shipping costs to send it back to him if he saw it and believed that I was telling the truth. He was so rude that when I explained to him what happened, he had the nerve to say, "So, what do you want me to do about it's". To prove my point, I called the retailers around my city and asked them what the box, battery and player should look like. I also called Creative. All of them said that what I got from Can Computer was abnormal. It was only then, when I proved that they'd sent me used and defecti've products and demanded that I be given a full refund, that the Sales Manager of Can Computer agree with me.
This is the worst company I've ever dealt with. DO NOT buy ANYTHING from this company!!!
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cliff wrote:
gdgmacguy wrote:
Downgrading the iPhone is not sanctioned by Apple. It involves hacking to some degree and per the Terms of Use of this forum, cannot be discussed here.
And how exactly from a technical support point of view does saying that help this person with their problem? I thought these forums were about technical support.
Please read the policy which we all agreed to when we signed up on this forum.

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Hi,
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3. Open up the Music folder of both players.
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OK, just for you (and to satisfy my own curiousity), I ripped?two tracks using?the WMA 9. codec and Easy CD-DA Extractor?(with metadata enabled of course) at 64 kbit/s to the PC. I copied it using MediaSource 3.0.09 to my Zen Micro (.02.05). The track data including track number is still there.
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After... (on the Micro)
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