Zen Nano Plus transfering DRM licensed WMA fi

Hello, I have a new Zen Nanao Plus and have no problem transferring MP3 files to the device, I have also purchased licensed WMA albums off Tesco and can play them no problem on the PC but they will not transfer to the Zen no matter what, cut and paste, drag and drop you name it...what am I doing wrong? Could someone from Creative advise Thanks

I don't think Creative software tries to convert a DRM file--you can't anyway. I have used Nano Plus Media Explorer for all my files (use it mainly as I use the psuedo-playlist function) and it moves over WMA DRM files that play fine. I use the smartfit (or whatever they call it there-have the preferences set up to shrink everything to 64KBS WMA) in that application and it works fine, ignoring DRM files. My files are a variety from Napster, MSN, Yahoo. All work fine.

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Help!
I have just reloaded the firmware (and all my music) onto my Zen Nano Plus and it didn't fix my problem.
I have mostly .wma files and they play fine. I have tried to load .mp3 files but my player just skips them. I tried using the Organizer software to convert the .mp3 files to .wma files and it says they are converted but I get about min of each song and that's it.
So I don't know why I can't play .mp3 files and I also don't know why the .mp3's can't be fully converted to .wma's.
Can anyone help?Thanks in advance,Marci

Wave files will only play by tricking the player into thinking that they are wav files created by the voice recorder. Put wav file into a folder called Recorded Tracks and see if it plays. This will at least see if it will play something. How did you transfer your files?Try ripping a CD to wma files using MediaSource or Windows Media Player - sometimes the firmware gets in a twist and will play mp3s but not wmas, or vice versa. The solution to that is to reload the firmware - go to the Support->Downloads link at the top of the page to get the latest firmware for your player. Protected songs (wma files with DRM) need to be transferred using WMP or MediaSource to transfer the license across, but mp3 files can be drag'n'dropped in Windows Explorer. A protected song without a license will give the symptoms you detail. As it's duff from the start you might just want to take it back - but it's worth trying the firmware reload first to save you some bother. PB

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I have a gb zen nano plus and was having problems with the unit shutting off randomly. I installed the most recent firmware, but now the player skips all licensed wma files. All mp3s now play without a problem, but the wma files won't play.
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Licenced WMA files... where are they from? And are they still on your computer and in the WMP or Mediasource library? If they are from a major download store, it probably thinks you are copying them. Any chance (cough cough) that you could convert them to MP3 by re-ripping them from a burned cd?

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nothing unique about the tracks that will not play.
The tracks have either been ripped from my audio CDs or downloaded via Media Player MSN Music store or MP3 store. I have licensed all tracks and they all play via Windows MediaPlayer and Creative MediaSource Player from my hardri've.
All tracks show up on the Zen Nano Plus in windows explorer and will play from the NanoPlus via Media Player and Creative MediaSource player, but they will not all play through the NanoPlus.
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That may be it!
My tracks have been transferred with WMP0 into the following Folder structure:
MUSIC-AUTHOR-ALBUM-Tracks.
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My Zen Nano Plus MENU-MUSIC display shows only 3 Folders -- 3 ALBUM Folders of 36 Tracks -- the tracks that do playback.
Is this just an organizational problem?
If so, it's not very handy to Sync....there is nothing in the manual that explains this!
I'll re-organize and see.
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I downloaded some WMA files from Walmart.com and successfully transferred them to my Zen Nano Plus. They played fine. But the battery, which was already low on power, died. I switched in a new battery and tried playing WMA files, but they would only play for about three seconds before the mp3 player shut off.
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Known issue, check [url="http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=dap&message.id=40235&view=by_date _ascending&page=">this thread[/url].
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Zen Nano Plus Firmware Update:
http://uk.europe.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product=2720&dlcentric=9423&Product_ Name=ZEN+Nano+Plus&OSName=Windows+XP
To install this firmware upgrade, do the following:
- Connect your player to your computer.
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- When prompted to set your player in Recovery mode, disconnect your player from your computer.
- Press and hold the Play button while connecting your player to your computer's USB port.
- Continue to hold the Play button for about 0 seconds after connecting your player to your computer.
- Release the Play button when the "Find New Hardware" dialog box appears on the computer screen.
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- Double-click the firmware upgrade file and follow the instructions on the screen. Ensure to select the "Format Data Area" option within the Update.
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Ok... Maybe If you woulod have asked help here some ppl like me would have helped you! I bought one (Zen Nano Plus Gb) for my mom and it works perfectly. I found out that if you are using the compact mode in the creative media explorer it makes a mysterious problem with the mp3. This fonction transfers songs into wma format to save space. But I don't know why, when you use this, your mp3 close for no reason after 0 to 5 seconds. What I did is that I remove all the transfered song and I transfered the original version (in mp3 fornat) to the mp3. To my surprise it worked perfectly!!!
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Creative Zen Nano Plus Firmware Problem, AGAIN! (PeeBee HEL

Hi all,
I am new here and have read all the posts and FAQ's but couldn't solve my problem. Actually there is a post http://forums.creative.com/creativel...d=68923#M07024 which tells exactly my problem. Have tried the solution but didn't solve it.
So I am here asking again.
I bought a zen nano plus GB and downloaded the latest firmware(ZenNanoPlus_PCFW_LF__0_03.exe) and the latest mass storage driver (MStorage_PCDRV_LB__07_00_250.exe). When I put the player in recovery mode as the firmware is detecting devices the player takes it self out of recovery mode and back in mass storage mode how do i stop it from down that?
I am trying to update it because my player doesn't play wma files :angry:I have tried PeeBee's solution but it didn't work. I have taken the battery out, reconnected it and it is recognized in recovery mode. I run the firmware and the computer plays a sound, the icon of connection appears in the nano's lcd and it is out of recovery mode. Then firmware program tells me that the 'device state is not set' and after that the message 'put into recovery mode before updating firmware' Aaaaaarrrrrghhhh!
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Hello-
I had a similar situation develop. Did your error message say, "Media state not initialized?" Here is what the creative support site says:
If you receive a message "Media State is not initialized ..." while updating firmware for a MuVo or Zen Nano Plus player, it will be necessary to install the Player Recovery Device driver and then update the firmware.
. Download the latest driver if you have not done so. You can download it from http://us.creative.com/support/downloads, and file name is MStorage_PCDRV_LB__07_00_250.exe.
2. Install the latest driver by double clicking on the file name.
3. Unplug the player from a computer if it is plugged.
4. Remove the battery from the player (except Zen Zeeon which has a built-in battery).
5. Press and hold the Play button while connecting the player to the USB port.
6. Continue to hold the Play button for about 0 seconds after connecting your player is connected to the USB port.
7. Keep on holding the Play button till Windows displays the Find New Hardware dialog box.
8. If this is the first time a player is installed as Player Recovery Device, Windows will find a Player Recovery Device (or USB Device), and prompt you for drivers. Click on No, and select "Do not search. I will choose the driver to install". Windows will install the drivers automatically.
9. Double click on the latest firmware upgrade file that you have downloaded previously, and follow the instructions on the screen.
0. Format the player if you are prompted to do so.
It is recommended that you stop your player properly before physically disconnect it from your PC.
To stop your player in Windows XP, Windows 2000 or Windows ME
Click on the Safely Remove Hardware icon on the Taskbar, click Safely remove USB mass Storage device, and disconnect your play when you are prompted to do so.
To stop your player in Windows 98SE
Make sure that the icon below appears on the LCD screen again for at least fi've seconds before disconnecting your player.
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I've had my player since September 2005 and have NEVER had any trouble out of it until 2 days ago. The problem...When I am listening to a track and use the wheel to back it up and listen to it again or the track before it, the player shuts off. I've been reading the posts here and realize I probably need some new firmware but which one do I need. Also my daughter has a 52 mb player that started doing the same thing.
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August22,
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Hello ZNP friends and fellow victims of frustration,
I have the GB Zen Nano Plus and a Windows XP operating system. My Zen is just over 3 months old, and a few days ago I started having the "stuck on Logo or hour glass (building library) problem". Like many of you, it has frustrated me beyond belief in my attempts to correct it. I'm certainly not a computer whiz, but I'm fairly good at following clear, numbered, valid instructions. I have tried many of the offered cures for this problem as provided in the discussion forum. None have worked for me.
I have just stumbled onto/into the fix for the WON'T START / RECOVERY / RESCUE problem. At least, I hope it lasts. The bad news is that I don't know or remember the steps for the cure. The good news is that the problem can be fixed. In the frustration of trying a million variations on the steps offered in the discussion area, I happened to fix my nano plus. I was becoming like a hyper zealot playing a slot machine.
What I do remember is this:
) I did download the application ZenNanoPlus_PCFW_LF___0 and install it, and put an icon on my desktop so I could activate it easily.
2) I did double click it to call it up.
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Edit: System is XPMessage Edited by zigkill on 0--2006 06:23 AM

RMskater wrote:I think you need to change the permissions to "Everyone".
How exactly do you do this? I checked this out tonight - when I logged onto my PC using my son's Limited User account (XP Home, BTW) I could connect his N200 and see it in Device Manager and Windows Explorer but both Creative pieces of software (CMS and N200 Media Explorer) did not see that it was there!
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