Zen Touch adapter - Really bad to leave in constant

I want to use my zen touch 40GB in connection with my home stereo system as my music collection. However, I don't want to keep having to remember to plug it in and unplug it all the time to do this. The manual says not to leave the adapter plugged in, but is it really an issue?
Thanks

BigFIFan,
The answer to the best of my knowledge is this:
The only time when it is best to fully discharge the battery is on the first few charges, to condition the battery.
After this, partial charges are the best. Leaving it plugged in to AC shouldn't hurt it at all.
This is why I like Li-Ion batteries. They are so easy to work with.
Jeremy
Where is Micah anyway? (sorry couldn't resist)

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    Q: Why does my ZEN Touch 2 freeze so often?
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    Q: My ZEN keep booting in loop! What should I do ?
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    Now, don't install again. It is very important that you uninstall first, then reinstall. Otherwise, it won't work. Luckylli enough, your stock APPs will remain intact (Default Music Player, ZiiO Space, Explorer...)
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    Q: The ZEN freeze at "Touch the Sound of Perfection" screen...
    I would suggest you to wait for a while; I guess it's because the ZEN is getting too hot. Reset the device so it can power OFF, and wait for the ZEN to cool down a bit (Do not reload it, unless you don't have the choice to.), and try again later. Also try to connect the ZEN to USB, it'll power ON on it's own, perhaps it'll get to the Home Screen. If it still freeze, too bad: do a factory reset (that should work).
    Q: Can I uninstall preinstalled System APPs (ZiiO Space, Audible, Default Browser) ?
    Yes, you can! I'll show you the easiest way to do it!
    If this isn't appropriated, ask me Creative, I'll remove this question.
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    Second: doing this can be seriously dangerous if you delete a APP that is required for the system to work, you could really kill your ZEN! Again, I take no responsability if you kill your ZEN because of this!
    Okay then, download the APP SDK Stock APP Removal (Thanks to the developpers!):
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    Just keep in mind, it is your responsability to verify if it's safe to remove an APP or not! Always check!
    I used the APP to remove ZiiO Space, Audible and the default Browser (Without any consequences), since I never use those. Not sure if it's safe to delete the default 3D Gallery.
    Mainly because I want to free up the most space as possible on my ZEN to avoid freezing issues, of course!
    Q: How can I backup my APPs ?
    It's quite easy to do. I've realised backing up my APPs was very important, on the ZEN Touch 2, since you never know when the device is going to freak out, when you'll have to do a reset, and that your APPs get corrupted!
    You can of course use Titanium Backup, but I would recommend Smart App Protector / Pro, for his simplicity.
    The main purpose of this APP, is to password/pattern-protect your APP (Which does the job perfectly well), but you can also backup (on SD Card, well, ZEN internal storage) and restore your APPs extremely easilly. No root required, here!
    This APP completely saved me, when I wiped my device...
    Q: What about my contacts ?
    In the stock Contacts APP, there's an option to do a full backup of your contacts, on the ZEN internal memory.
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    Q: In some cases, the ZEN Touch 2 isn't loud enough!
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    Q: The Agenda / Calendar does not work at all! When I start it, I get the message "You have no calendar" !
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    Q: Where's the reset hole?
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    6. I like the Go Power Manager for monitoring the battery. It has a widget and power usage modes that are quite good.
    7. I don't seem to be having lock up problems. (Note that I only use the default browser). I think this may be due to my being really careful about RAM usage. There are a set of things I've done in this area. First, I use StartupManager. (This is a second reason to root the device.) This keeps the things running at start up to the minimum you want. I've also installed FastReboot. I run this from time to time. But there are two other things that I really rely on. One is the Go Task Manager. This lets you monitor RAM usage and kill things to recover RAM. Another thing I use is a widget--I can't remember where it came from--that displays RAM usage on the home panel and a button in the shape of a broom, which, when tapped, recovers RAM. I think this is part of Go Task Manager.
    8. It seems obligatory to have a scanner app for all the 2-D bar codes that have sprung up everywhere. I haven't seen any advice about which app is preferred. I'm using Unibet Scanner, which seems to work.
    9. Because Google Play isn't supported, I've had to get some things via googling for apks. One finds these in strange quasi legal places and I worry about viruses. I'd be interested in advice regarding a virus scanner.
    Thanks again for the guide. -- al
    Thank you very much!
    1. Maybe you want to try Dolphin Browser Mini / HD, it's pretty powerful. But if you're looking for a lighter web browser, you could give BoatBrowser Mini a shot, if you want to.
    2. I've read that PowerAMP cannot activate on a non-Google phone, which I find pretty ridiculous.. I have to patch it with an illegal app, but now I get that strange noise when my music play, and the app is basically dead, unless I reinstall and loose all my settings!
    7. That's the right thing to do. If you don't have much APPs installed, that shouldn't lock up.
    9. Same here. I've used Lookout Antivirus before, but you wouldn't be able to uninstall it, if you're not rooted. I've then switched to Zoner Antivirus (Free). Less known, but for some reason, I've read it detected more viruses than any other free Android antivirus.
    Enjoy the ZEN Touch 2.

  • Several questions - new to Creative Zen Touch - please help (ripping/accessori

    Hi, I just ordered my new Zen Touch 20gb online last night with a set of Sony earbuds (MDR-EX5LP). I'm pretty excited, get it this Friday.
    I just had a few questions in advance:
    A) Which programs are best for ripping, allow you to adjust the quality of the songs, and won't cause problems when burnt cds are ripped (saw a thread earlier that complained of bad quality when burnt cds were ripped to MP3 that worried me)?
    B) What different types of cables/accessories would you recommend for wiring the Creative up to a stereo? On CNet.com and various other sites, they talk about how the Creative sounds great through speakers, and I'm really excited to hook that up, but I don't know A) Which cable to buy that will work well with the Creative/have good sound quality, B) Where to plug it in - headphone jack? (no analog Line Out, right?)
    C) Has anyone had any experience with the remote? Is it pretty durable? I'm not going to plop down 50 plus shipping and handling, wait 2-3 weeks for the backorder, only to have it fall to bits in a few weeks.
    Thanks SO much! I appreciate any and all help. I'm new to Creative/Mp3 players as a whole, so forgive any ignorance/mistakes.

    I have used WMP0 exclusi'vely for ripping CDs. I rip WMAs at 28kbps, though you may want to go up to 92kbps if you can hear the difference (some people recommed ripping a song at both and deciding which is best). I sync all my CDs with WMP0 too, and have had no issues. One thing to caution you is to make sure your ID3 tags are correct before you sync up. What I mean by this is to make sure the album name, track titles, and artist names are to your liking. 90% it is not an issue, but sometimes, the titles have extra characters you may not wish to have. If you have more than one artist listed on a track, only the first one is loaded. So if you have, say: "EmmyLou Harris; Buddy Miller", the track is stored under artist Emmylou Harris only.</LI>
    Belkin sells this Dell DJ base that the ZT will fit into (there is another thread on that here). That seems like a nice option. You do go out of your headphone jack. Any chord that has the headphone jack on one end, and stereo RCA (red, white) jacks on the other end will do.</LI>
    See other threads about the FM remote. I read some concerns about their durability, but read for yourself and decide.</LI>

  • A Petition to ask Creative to update the firmware of the Zen Touch to Include EAX capabiliti

    <SPAN>Hi. I have been looking for a new hard dri've MP3 player and am thinking about getting the Zen Touch. But I was unhappy that creative removed the EAX functions that were in their other players. I will be sending this to creative to show them that people do like EAX in the player. If you would like to help me with this you can post and leave your name. Thanks! This was taken off of the creative Zen Extra?s website describing EAX: <SPAN>Customize Your Audio Playback with Innovati've EAX? Technologies Advanced EQ lets you customize your music playback with Equalizer presets or set your own using the 4-band custom equalizer Smart Volume Management? adjusts the playback volume of all the tracks on your playlist so they will remain at the same level without you reaching for the volume control between songs! Time Scaling speeds up or slows down an audio track with no distortion Sleep Timer and Wake to Music Feature Environmental Effects simulate audio environments such as "Concert Hall" or "Arena" Spatialization Effects expand your soundstage
    <SPAN>See here: http://eax.creative.com/nomad/ To go to the EAX website to learn some more.
    <SPAN>If you look HERE on the little flash demo you can see in the LCD screen of the touch that this picture of the touch HAS EAX. If the touch had EAX and creative removed it just before selling it then it must be easy to put back in.
    <FONT color=#3300cc><SPAN>Update:
    <FONT color=#3300cc><SPAN class=timetext><SPAN>
    <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff size=3>Hi everyone.
    <SPAN>So I just went through all through posts to see how many names we have, and it turns out that there was much more discution than I thought there was. With all the names from the thread and from what UT-king has added we have ~556~ names. Its less than what I thought it was, but its still really good.
    <SPAN>The thread has been read 6795 times, has been posted on 36 times, and has a 5 star rating.
    <SPAN>Thanks every one for helping me with this !
    <FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff size=3>Here is the post that has the signatures that UT-King has collected. <SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff size=3>http://forums.americas.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=dap&message.id=4732#M4732<FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff size=3> <SPAN>You will need to scroll down a bit as it is the 5th post on that page
    <SPAN class=timetext><SPAN><FONT color=#3300cc>Uptaded on 4/27/05
    <SPAN class=time_text>
    Message Edited by Torstein on 04-28-2005 06:54 AM

    <FONT face=Verdana size=>
    Spetznaz24 wrote:
    <FONT face=Verdana size=>I agree, Creative needs to put the EAX function back and allow for it to be USB MASS Storage Device without drivers,
    <FONT face=Verdana size=>Sergey K.<FONT face=Verdana size=>
    I agree with the EAX Function back, and also the USB MASS Storage Device.dzyl-

  • Creative MP3 Players (Especially ZEN Touch 2) durability: satisfied?

    Hello,
    I'm willing to buy a ZEN Touch 2, it look so amazing!
    However, what I would like to know more: durability!
    Is the ZEN Touch 2 (Or any other MP3 Player from Creative) durable enough?
    I'll still have the year warrantee, but I'll need to ship it in the US, it'll need to be shipped at another adress in the US, and then shipped back to me (I'm in Canada).
    That'll be a though job, you know.
    My first MP3 , an Archos .5 Vision, died on me when it ran out of batteries for the first time; strangely, I reloaded it, and it had trouble booting.
    My second and actual MP3, Archos 2 Vision, has brokens contacts in the headphone jack... -___-
    Well, it still work, but it's really annoying.
    If you are a ZEN Touch 2 owner, please give me your feedback!
    Thanks you very much!

    Hi Gamex I have a Zen Touch 2 with GPS in the UK. In the first 3 weeks, it froze 3 or 4 times, and then finally died when downloading the Creative update to Android 2.2. You need to be aware that Creative Tech Support seem not to have yet caught up with the fact that they have a new type of MP3 player, and all the Knowledgebase articles they will refer you to are not relevant, as they deal with the older hard dri've type of player. It took me all but a fortnight of shouting to get them to authorise its return for repair/replacement, which is where it is currently. In addition, if you're going for the GPS model, advertised as 8GB, be aware it's capacity for music etc is a mere 4.gb, and any apps you download will eat into that. The way round this is to buy a big micro SDHC card (I got a 32gb one) which integrates seamlessly into the player. You can opt to put the apps on there if you so wish. That's the bad bit; the good bit is that it looks and feels great, and the touchscreen, while not as responsi've as some, is more than acceptable, to me at least. The sound quality is not as good as some other Creative players, mainly due to the fairly low spec earbuds supplied. Get some good ones, and the sound is fine, although strangely there is no equalizer facility. The FM radio, with RDS, gives quite astonishing reception on the move. You can import playlists from Media Player, but there is no option for crossfading, so you get a fairly significant gap between tracks. There are a fair selection of apps available, including an antivirus one (I see you were asking elsewhere about that) but you cannot access Android market; apps are downloaded from the Ziio website. Battery life is obviously dependant on what you are doing; wifi and GPS use will inevitably eat power before your very eyes. Using it for music was giving me around hours (less than claimed). Video playback (which is also very good) brings that down to around 4 hours. Overall I would say I was a little dissapointed with it, but that said having been without it now for nearly 3 weeks I realise how much I want it back, so it can't be all bad! Hope this helps? Regards Mike F

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