Zen Touch Big P

Well, I have a Zen Touch, and the problem is, i tried installing the "new" firmware to my Zen Touch, everything was going well until it said... error and exit'ed out of the installation... so i look back on my Zen Touch and it says firmware problem....i cleaned the hard dri've up tried reloading the firmware but now my computer (Windows XP) does not recognize the Zen Touch through the USB port and now i dont know what to do
Any one have any suggestions? or maybe i could borrow $250

okay so the old firmware was deleted and the new did not install right? I don't know if you have to get it replaced or if you can fix it... but it's a lot of bad luck

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Big and strange problem with my Zen Touch, please he

I have had my Zen Touch since October and I have never had a problem with it, but suddenly yesterday I stopped for no obvious reason, it just froze.
I have since tried to reset it a number of times, and everytime it goes into something called "recovery mode", where I can "clean up", "format all" "reload firmware" or "reboot". Only reboot works, when I try to choose the other options it just says "harddisk problem".
I have then tried to upgrade the firmware through USB 2.0, but it freezes shortly into the process...
So now I don?t know what to do, I really hope that some of you can help me... Thanks a lot

Well that's a big problem, but it's certainly not a strange one. In fact, it seems to happen to pretty much every Zen Touch ever.Last time it happened to mine I fixed it by putting the player in its case and dropping it on the floor. I'm not even joking.Edit: By the way, this usually means the hard dri've is stuck, particularly if your player is new. Smackin' it around a little really does help.Message Edited by debaser on 04-06-2005 02:8 AM

PLEASE, PLEASE HELP: Big problems with my Zen Touch. (Firmware/driver issu

So here's the deal:
Last night I thought I'd finally take the time to upgrade my Zen Touch to 2. from .3 or something like that. I noticed that there was a warning saying that this was no small upgrade, and that I should back up everything I have on it.
I'm glad I did, because now my MP3 player situation is seriously screwed up, big time. During the upgrade process, my computer froze, leaving my Zen Touch without firmware (ok, so firmware version 0.0.0). Upon turning the device on, it boots up in recovery mode. This allows me to either format, clean up, or "reupload" firmware. I've tried all of these options, but the fact is clear that my computer simply will no longer recognize my MP3 player.
It does, however, recognize it at as a generic storage device. However, this isn't enough for me to reinstall the player's firmware unfortunately.
So basically, I can't update driver or firmware right now, because my computer won't acknowlege my Zen Touch!
Somebody please, please help.
I've already tried using the setup file from http://www.jumpingcholla.com/jce_nomad_ZEN.htm.
Seriously, please help!

Sort of success!
I now finally have firmware 2. installed on my Zen Touch! Yeah! I'm not entirely sure how I did it, and I'm not bothering to find out, I'm just glad I finally got it on there.
But some problems still remain. After all this fiddling with my driver and firmware and whatnot, my computer just doesn't see my MP3 the same way as it used to. Before, it was great, all I had to do was plug her in and I could bring up Zen Explorer in Windows Explorer, or organize my stuff in Creative MediaSource.
Now that's not the case. The only way I can sort of add stuff to my player now is by going into Windows Explorer, which is still more or less acknowleging my player as a "portable device". Granted, there is a dri've called "My Zen", but it doesn't bring up Zen Explorer like it used to when I click on it. Furthermore, when I go into MediaSource, I can't select it as a location, there just isn't anything there.
It almost seems as if my computer thinks I'm just using a portable hard dri've. Is there anyway I can tell it that it's an MP3 player, too?
Thanks!

Big Zen Touch Probl

I recieved my Zen Touch yesterday, charged it etc. I also tested the classical tracks. Then went about transferring files from my Nomad Zen NX to the Touch. I got through around half in the time I had, then disconnected and turned off the players. Today though I plugged both in and neither responded, so i unplugged them and redid it. Then I started transferring the remaining files, but they woukd not write onto the Touch. I then looked at the touch and the screen was blank, only the blue backlight. So i reset the player, the Creative screen was displayed and the Zen one but the background was very dark, after though the screen was again blank although you could here the clicking of the touch pad. I then tried to turn it off, but it wasn't responsi've so didn't work. I went into the Recovery mode and this screen was displayed so I turned it off. I then tried again to boot it up but the problem remained. So i went into recovery mode and have tried all the options but none seem to work as the screen goes blank. I have reinstalled the firmware, and after doing so went to MediaSource (Touch was empty as I had Formatted the player before) and put an album on so the transfer of file works and the PC recognises the player. The problem remains though of a blank screen and the inablity to do anything at this point. The only way to turn off is via Recovery Mode.
Any help would be very grateful, as my patience is wearing thin and soon the Zen Touch may be falling 5' from the window to the floor!!
Cheers

If the Rescue Mode functions aren't working then unfortunately the player is faulty. You either need to return it where you bought it for a replacement, or contact Creative Support.

OK, Zen Touch Owners, Listen Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, when I tried to update the firmware on my Zen Touch to the PlaysForSure update, all of the original firmware was removed, and I could do nothing. This happened to a lot of other users, and most of their solutions seemed to be unique to the secondary computer they used. After searching through several threads, I finally found a solution that worked when nothing else would. Thank you so much Evil_Queen_Lisa for solving the problem: Step - Before you upgrade your firmware, back up your files as they will be lost. If you are here, unfortunately this is probably too late for you, but I figured I'd add it anyway. Step 2 - If you have licensed music - back up your licenses to an external source (like a USB key)->Go to WMP ->Tools ->License Management ->backup ->select your external dri've ->backup Step 3 - Restart your computer Step 4 - In "Add or Remove Programs" with "Show Updates" selected:***Note: you MUST uninstall in this order!!***a)uninstall windows media player , restart when prompted (also refered to as "Rollback" )b)uninstall windows medial player RunTime, restart when promptedc)uninstall Microsoft User-Mode Driver Frameworks Feature Pack .0 (and not something else with a similar name like .NET), restart your computer Step 5 - Download and install windows media format 9.5 RunTime from here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx FamilyId=73C2650F-BE6-4BD6-8408-FD6E7827CD8 Step 6 - In "Add or Remove Programs" with "Show Updates" selected:Uninstall all software and drivers by Creative **Note: If you have a creative sound card (like "audigy" or "soundblaster" ) be carefull not to uninstall it's drivers / software! Restart your computer Step 7 - Plug your zen into its power outlet, and from recovery mode select "clean up" Quick Suggestion by Baffled: With your Zen plugged in, go to Control Panel->System->Hardware->Device Manager and select Portable Devices. Right-click Zen Touch, and select Uninstall. Step 8 - Download the newest driver and the firmware for your Zen from here: (make sure you have the correct player and country) http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/ Step 9 - Install the driver, and plug in your zen when prompted. If a pop up appears asking you what you want to do (ie open with WMP) just click cancel. Step 0 - Open the firmware upgrader ->click upgrade ->follow the instructionsif its successful -> CONGRATULATIONS!!! you are fixed!! I suggest you run your windows update wizard, and reinstall everything once your zen is working properly (it should work fine with WMP ). If this works for you, or doesn't, please post a reply and keep this thread ali've! Any moderators out there, please sticky this. It's a big and frustrating problem, and this is the only solution that appears to work uni'versally (three friends did this too).

Well, from the looks of things, more devices are having problems with firmware updates, without any solutions put forward from the manufacturer. Poor show, Creative.

Q&A Guide about ZEN Touch 2

Hey people!
I had time to kill, and I've been around since a while now; I now own a ZEN Touch 2 since more than 6 months. I figured out I'm able to help quite a lot of people about this device, actually (even though I don't have an astronomic number of posts), and I felt like writing a little guide about common questions about the ZEN Touch 2 could help, why not?
First of all, this is a guide applying to the ZEN Touch 2, I don't know about the ZiiO. Maybe my tricks will work on both devices, but I can't be sure about it.
LAST UPDATED: November 23th 2012.
Q: Why does my ZEN Touch 2 freeze so often?
I've got 2 theories about why these freezes happen so often: I own another Android device, which have a fairly weaker processor than the ZEN Touch 2, and it does not freeze at all. So the ZEN Touch 2 is quite powerful! But even on Android 2.2.1, it's perhaps the installed stock firmware that is unstable. That cause the problem.
Second theory, I believe the ZEN Touch 2 don't have much RAM availible! Around 200-256 MB. What's interesting here, is that my other cellphone does have a weaker processor (600 MHz VS 800 MHz), but it also have more RAM, 512 MB! That could be the reason why the ZEN Touch 2 freeze so often, when the device is basically running out of RAM.
Or it could be both! An unstable firmware installed, and no enough RAM. Who knows?
Q: Okay, but how can I fix this issue?
There's no magic way to make your device running super-fast like any other smartphone, especially if the problem is the lack of RAM, rather than the unstable firmware. The number 1 solution, it's obvious: uninstall APPs. The more APPs are installed, the more RAM they use. The more your device is going to freeze/crashe. Myself, I don't have many APPs installed, only 17 (Some of them being like 500 Ko, or even extensions or themes, that are only 150 Ko). I use my ZEN Touch 2 only for listening to music, and browsing the Internet using Flash Player. It does the job well enough.
What you could also do, is install the APK/APP Fast Reboot Pro. I have it installed, and it free your phone memory everytime you unlock your screen, or press the widget. Extremely usefull. That'll help to prevent the ZEN from freezing, a bit.
Well, even though I have 17 APPs installed, including Fast Reboot Pro, my Touch 2 still crash, rarely. I've been experiencing a serious issue about my ZEN booting loop, for no reason at all! Had to boot in recovery mode, and wipe the data. Which lead me to think the stock firmware can also be the problem for unstability.
Q: How do I install APPs on the ZEN Touch 2 ?
Since the Market is unavailible (I've tried to install it without any success. However, seems like some people managed to install it, most probably with root. I've tried, but cannot get it to work, myself), you'll have to download APK files. You have the choice to download from ZiiO Space, or from any other website. Download an APK file, save it anywhere on your SD Card, then open the built-in APP "Explorer" on the ZEN. Lauch the .APK, install it, and you're done.
Remember to check "Enable unknown sources" on the "Manage Applications" menu!
A fastest method, you could manually download and install "SlideME". I've used it for a while, and it's a Android-Market / Google-Play "Like". It'll work without any problem on the ZEN.
Q: Is the ZEN Touch 2 rootable ?
Yes it is!
First thing first, rooting your device will void your warrantee. I did it, since I live in Canada, and I have no intention of returning the device in California if it break. I am not responsible if you brick your device doing the process, even though nothing wrong should happens. If you don't know what is Root Access, you better not doing this.
I've used the following method. It worked like a charm.
Install the Z4Root APK. Now your Antivirus (Computer maybe, and ZEN Touch 2 antivirus as well, if you have one) will warn you it contain a malware. Z4Root is not a virus! Simply because it perform actions that can be dangerous to your device, that's why you get a warning.
Launch Z4Root, and press the "Root" button (Not temporary). Z4Root will do the rest automaticly! Then your device will reboot, which is normal. Don't do anything during the rooting process, however!
If the rooting worked, you should now see the APP "Superuser" in your APP Drawer.
You still have the option to Un-Root your device - assuming you want to return the ZEN to the store, for example - by launching Z4Root again, and press the button "Un-Root". Simple as that.
Q: Can you install a Custom ROM such as Cyanogenmod ?
I've tried without any success... I was hoping install another firmware would make the device as stable as it should be.
I installed ROM Manager, but when the APP ask you to backup your current bootloader and select your device, the ZEN Touch 2 isn't in the list, so I couldn't perform the backup.
There are more complex ways of installing another ROM, but I haven't tested those. This is becoming quite dangerous.
I requested help on XDA Forums, but haven't got any, sadly.
Q: The GPS doesn't work !
Okay, so I don't know if your device really is defective, but I can tell you about my experience; I always disliked Google Maps APP, since it requires you have a Wi-Fi connection availible to use your GPS. Not pretty helpful when outside.
What I recommend you, is to install the APP Locus (Keep that in mind: the more APPs you install, the more your device will freeze.). Free version is powerful enough. What I like about this magical APP, it allows you to download maps, so that you can view them offline (They are pretty big in size)! Download a few maps, and activate your GPS, it should seek your position.
I believe when people says their GPS doesn't work, it's mainly because the ZEN Touch 2 GPS is really slow to find your position. Really. I first had trouble with this too, and for the GPS do to his things, this can takes up to 15-30 minutes, no kidding. And when the GPS work, it have chances to loose your position randomly.
So yeah, sad to say that, but the GPS on the Touch 2 isn't the best. My position is find instantly on my other 600 MHz smartphone (LG Optimus One).
Q: What is the Recovery Mode, and how do I access it ?
You can access Recovery Mode by holding the HOME button and then turning ON your device at the same time. This menu can be really useful, and even save your device, like it did for me.
Here are the options availible:
- Reboot System Now;
- Apply Sdcard : update.zip;
This is used to update your firmware if you're still on Android 2.1. You could also install Custom ROMs with the filename update.zip that you've put to the root of your internal storage. Highly not recommended to install any Custom ROM, since these ROMs aren't customized for the ZEN Touch 2, simply!
- Wipe Data / Factory Reset;
This delete all of your data on the ZEN, to bring it back to his original state. For some reason, when I used this option, it kept everything that's on my internal storage (Music, Pictures..). GLAD that did. What I've lost, were the APPs I installed, and my Android settings. My APPs were all backed up, so that was no big deal. I wiped the device 3 times, and I can confirm that the data in /mnt/sdcard (The internal storage where you put your music, on USB) isn't deleted. All you have to restore is APPs (If they're backed up, that's fast) and ZEN settings.
Also, be advised that wiping the device does not "unroot" the ZEN - Superuser APP is still there, and the device is still rooted. Notice that if you have uninstalled system APPs (see below), the APPs won't be reinstalled automatically. You'll have to reinstall them manually, if you want them back - hope you have a backup of these APPs!
I had to use this option to stop my ZEN from booting in loop. I thought it wouldn't change anything!
- Wipe Cache Partition;
Wipes the cache partition of the device to clear all the data accumulated there over use.
Thanks to Haroon Q. Raja from AddictiveTips for the info.
Q: Would you qualify the ZEN Touch 2 as a durable unit ?
Well, "on the outside", yes. People (Not me! :P) dropped my ZEN twice, without any consequence (That freaked me out).
Maybe I was lucky, don't know. But durable "on the inside", the firmware and all this stuff, it's a no-no. I should you have more chance that your ZEN will die for no reason because of the firmware, rather than die because you dropped it (Well, just don't drop it in the pool...).
Q: The stock music player suck, I have no control at all !
What I recommend you to install (Personally) :
PlayerPro for the look;
PowerAMP for functionalities. I used PowerAMP, since it sort my music better. I've switched to NRG music player, since PowerAMP became glitchy, for some reason.
Both are shareware, but since there's no access to the Market, you have no choice, but to download illegally. I apologize Creative, for approving the download of APPs, but what else can we do? Simply make the Markey availible, that will sove this issue.
If you plan on getting PowerAMP, get it here, along with the Full Version Patch (You HAVE to be rooted for this to work! Tested, and work in my case):
http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic....fdb7e20fd84c70
1. Unistall your current version of PowerAMP.
2. Install PowerAMP.2.0.4.467 APK (Do not run it!)
3. Install PowerAmpPatcher by ChelpuS APK
4. Start the Patcher, and press the button.
5. Reboot the ZEN, then start PowerAMP. That should do it.
Warning: You will loose all your previous PowerAMP settings, however!
Since the ZEN Touch 2 is not a Google cellphone / has no Android Market, this is the only way to have PowerAMP all the time on your ZEN.
NRG Music Player is pretty decent as well, it can play different formats that PlayerPro can't. Still a shareware, but easy to download and install without hassle.
Q: Which Photo Gallery do you recommend ?
Everyone agree, nothing is worst than the Android stock Gallery, super slow, and doesn't sort your pictures at all! Again, I have 2 recommendations:
Grab Quickpic or Picturen. Both are extremely light (500 Ko), fast and there are a lot of zoom steps, for us ZEN Touch 2 owners without any multi-touch support! You can also hide the useless folders, or add a password to these hidden folders, if you prefer!
JustPictures! is also excellent, as well. Take a bit more space, a bit slower, but the interface is more attractive, and One-Touch zoom is supported. Some functions that are in QuickPic aren't in this APP, but I feel like JustPictures sort my photos better. I can put differents "accounts" or "folders" to sort all my pictures.
Screw the original 3D Gallery!
Q: Any browser I should get ?
That really depend on what you do...
Read this article, from november 2011:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Android-...view-1705.html
Opera Mini is lightning fast, but unfortunately, Flash Player is unsupported on this browser!
Note: Avoid browsing the Internet with a ZEN full of APPs, you'll get in trouble. I did this, and this was a nightmare, freezing all the time, have to reset...
I do this now, but with my 17 APPs installed. It's quite OK, I should say. Especially that I use Flash Player a lot.
Q: Any Home Replacement you recommend ?
I've been using Go Launcher Ex for a while, because it's resonably fast, beautiful and way customizable; ADW Laucher is pretty fast, too. I've now switche to Nemus Launcher - way lighter (The GO Dev Team applications really are getting bloated by useless features, sadly), and still pretty beautiful. Go Launcher Ex is more customizable, but is getting bigger and bigger in size (And RAM, maybe. Not sure.). 8-10 MB or up for an APP? Even for a Home Screen, I hope you're kidding me.
Both APPs allow you to add folders to the APP Drawer ! Excellent!
Q: I want to disable / customize the lockscreen.
Disable the lockscreen: NoLock;
Customize the lockscreen: WidgetLocker.
Q: Does the games play well ?
Yes, pretty good, with the 800 MHz processor of the ZEN Touch 2 !
Comparing it to the 600 MHz processor of my LG Optimus One, there really is a noticeable differece in fluidity. The vast majority of the games doesn't lag on the ZEN Touch 2, that's great.
If you want to try those games emulators (SNES, Genesis...), go ahead, they work decently. Unfortunately, since the Touch 2 doesn't have multitouch, that's a problem, but try to set Left-Right as volume Up-Down to move your caracther, it's pretty playable and fluid enough. The best games are the RPGs, for sure, since multitouch isn't necessary at all.
There are also 3D emulators, such as N64oid or PSX4Droid; these also work, but watch out! At that point, 800 MHz is not enough for these games to be "playable". Super Mario 64, for example, is the most playable game availible for N64oid, and still then, it is really slow (Not that enjoyable, seriously).
You're free to try N64oid or PSX4Droid for fun, but just saying, if you want to freeze your device, this is the way to go.
Super Mario 64 shouldn't freeze instantly your device. However, Mario Kart 64, Donkey Kong 64 or Tony Hawks (Tested) freeze your device for sure - you wouldn't even get past the "Press Start" screen. My advice: only try Super Mario 64.
Still then, the ZEN does play games (2D or 3D) smoothly enough!
Q: My ZEN keep booting in loop! What should I do ?
That happened to me once in a while, and this is freaky.
"ZEN Touch 2" screen, "Touch the Sound of Perfection screen" again, and again, and again...
First: wait. Maybe it'll boot
If your launcher still doesn't start, reset button (Inside the SD Card slot, very tiny) is your only choice, of course. Reset, then power it up again. It booted for me all the time, except once.
If that still doesn't work: Recovery Mode, like stated earlier.
Now, here's what could happen if you reset during the boot sequence; I got this extremely annoying problem like 3 times. Hooray, you can get to the launcher!
Now, what can unfortunately happen, is that you get random popup like "SmartKeyboard Pro Force Close", this stuff. You'll keep getting these popups. That mean the vast majority of your 3rd Party APPs are corrupted, and you'll have to uninstall, then install again almost every single APP... This is a serious pain!
Now, don't install again. It is very important that you uninstall first, then reinstall. Otherwise, it won't work. Luckylli enough, your stock APPs will remain intact (Default Music Player, ZiiO Space, Explorer...)
Hope you don't get this problem!
Q: The ZEN freeze at "Touch the Sound of Perfection" screen...
I would suggest you to wait for a while; I guess it's because the ZEN is getting too hot. Reset the device so it can power OFF, and wait for the ZEN to cool down a bit (Do not reload it, unless you don't have the choice to.), and try again later. Also try to connect the ZEN to USB, it'll power ON on it's own, perhaps it'll get to the Home Screen. If it still freeze, too bad: do a factory reset (that should work).
Q: Can I uninstall preinstalled System APPs (ZiiO Space, Audible, Default Browser) ?
Yes, you can! I'll show you the easiest way to do it!
If this isn't appropriated, ask me Creative, I'll remove this question.
First, you HAVE to be rooted, again!
Second: doing this can be seriously dangerous if you delete a APP that is required for the system to work, you could really kill your ZEN! Again, I take no responsability if you kill your ZEN because of this!
Okay then, download the APP SDK Stock APP Removal (Thanks to the developpers!):
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...vTHqe6KdBudQLg
Install it (If you have an antivirus on your ZEN, it'll detect it as dangerous. Ignore it. It's normal, since the APP allow you to delete system APPs, which can be dangerous), run it.
You can now see a list of every single APP installed on your ZEN, including the system APPs. ALWAYS make a backup of the APP when you delete one! The APP itself being extremely easy to use, no need to explain how it works, you'll understand it by yourself, for sure.
Just keep in mind, it is your responsability to verify if it's safe to remove an APP or not! Always check!
I used the APP to remove ZiiO Space, Audible and the default Browser (Without any consequences), since I never use those. Not sure if it's safe to delete the default 3D Gallery.
Mainly because I want to free up the most space as possible on my ZEN to avoid freezing issues, of course!
Q: How can I backup my APPs ?
It's quite easy to do. I've realised backing up my APPs was very important, on the ZEN Touch 2, since you never know when the device is going to freak out, when you'll have to do a reset, and that your APPs get corrupted!
You can of course use Titanium Backup, but I would recommend Smart App Protector / Pro, for his simplicity.
The main purpose of this APP, is to password/pattern-protect your APP (Which does the job perfectly well), but you can also backup (on SD Card, well, ZEN internal storage) and restore your APPs extremely easilly. No root required, here!
This APP completely saved me, when I wiped my device...
Q: What about my contacts ?
In the stock Contacts APP, there's an option to do a full backup of your contacts, on the ZEN internal memory.
If for some reason, you can't find it, download the APP Go Contacts Ex (In my opinion, the best contacts APP availible). This APP also have an option to backup and restore your contacts super easilly.
Q: In some cases, the ZEN Touch 2 isn't loud enough!
Something I would recommend is using a different music player with an equalizer. PowerAMP + PowerAMP patcher should do the job. Open the equalizer and increase the value of the first bar on the left. You'll get a small volume boost. I do use it for some tracks that have the volume REALLY low.
Q: The Agenda / Calendar does not work at all! When I start it, I get the message "You have no calendar" !
Dear calendar... It's always been a pain to set the calendar on the ZEN Touch 2, since it's not a cellphone...
2 recommendations:
First: forget it. I've tried, and seems this is possible to get this to work, but quite uneffective. First, you should download the APP Calengoo, a more than excellent calendar. It'll sync with your Google Calendar, so try using a Gmail account, to get it to work. It seems to have troble with the sync, and it doesn't work all the time.
Haven't done this in a while, this is seriously a pain. I'm using the calendar on my LG smartphone anyways. I won't be able to help that much about this issue.
Second: what you could do instead, is to download the calendar Jorte. It's a standalone agenda, so it does not requires sync to work at all. It'll work without any problem on your ZEN, you don't have to set-up anything.
However, I fairly prefer Calengoo over Jorte, way more powerful.
Q: Where's the reset hole?
Inside the micro SD slot. You can use a lockpipe (recommended) or a linguee mine (less safe).
Q: Is the battery removable?
Unfortunately, no. Unless you manage to open the ZEN in a very specific way, using a knife and a hairdryer to make the glue melt, I've read. You should probably gain access to the battery this way, but I've been completely unable to know the exact battery type (Lithium-Ion, but details), so replacing it would be a real pain. Creative couldn't help me, since they do not encourage self repair; they recommended me to purchase another device if this case happen, which I honnestly find pretty ugly.
Q: The default Android keyboard is not good enough...
The APK "Smart Keyboard Pro" is the answer.
Q: I would like to quickly turn ON WiFi, and ajust screen brightness without going in the Settings all the time.
Grab the APK "Extended Controls".
That's it, hope this guide was helpful!

Originally Posted by agrimstad
This Q&A guide was enormously helpful to me with the zen touch 2, my first android device.
I'm pretty happy with the device--everything pretty much works--but doubt my experience would have been so positive without this guide. I do have some observations as a kind of follow up.
1. I'd recommend staying with Creative's web browser. I tried a couple of alternatives. I tried Opera and Firefox. I thought they were painfully slow. I quickly abandoned them. The default browser seems good enough. That's not really what I got the zen for.
2. I bought PowerAmp. I had issues where it would work for a few days and then fail with licensing issues. Reinstalling fixed matters, then the licensing failure recurred. So I tried ProPlayer. To me, it's better. I like the way it handles folders.
3. I bought Locus Pro. It's pretty good. I like the ability to download a map so you're not tied to the internet. The GPS is slow, but it does work.
4. I did root the device with z4root. For me, the only advantage seems to be that I need to be rooted to get ClockSync to work. Being able to sync the device's clock with NTP is a really professional touch.
5. I use Go Launcher Ex (paid version). One thing to mention is that the default launcher has a Bluetooth widget which doesn't seem to survive the installation of Go Launcher Ex. I installed another Bluetooth widget I found on AndroidPit App Center. By the way, this App Center seems pretty decent, since Google Play isn't supported. (I also use the SlideME Marketplace.)
6. I like the Go Power Manager for monitoring the battery. It has a widget and power usage modes that are quite good.
7. I don't seem to be having lock up problems. (Note that I only use the default browser). I think this may be due to my being really careful about RAM usage. There are a set of things I've done in this area. First, I use StartupManager. (This is a second reason to root the device.) This keeps the things running at start up to the minimum you want. I've also installed FastReboot. I run this from time to time. But there are two other things that I really rely on. One is the Go Task Manager. This lets you monitor RAM usage and kill things to recover RAM. Another thing I use is a widget--I can't remember where it came from--that displays RAM usage on the home panel and a button in the shape of a broom, which, when tapped, recovers RAM. I think this is part of Go Task Manager.
8. It seems obligatory to have a scanner app for all the 2-D bar codes that have sprung up everywhere. I haven't seen any advice about which app is preferred. I'm using Unibet Scanner, which seems to work.
9. Because Google Play isn't supported, I've had to get some things via googling for apks. One finds these in strange quasi legal places and I worry about viruses. I'd be interested in advice regarding a virus scanner.
Thanks again for the guide. -- al
Thank you very much!
1. Maybe you want to try Dolphin Browser Mini / HD, it's pretty powerful. But if you're looking for a lighter web browser, you could give BoatBrowser Mini a shot, if you want to.
2. I've read that PowerAMP cannot activate on a non-Google phone, which I find pretty ridiculous.. I have to patch it with an illegal app, but now I get that strange noise when my music play, and the app is basically dead, unless I reinstall and loose all my settings!
7. That's the right thing to do. If you don't have much APPs installed, that shouldn't lock up.
9. Same here. I've used Lookout Antivirus before, but you wouldn't be able to uninstall it, if you're not rooted. I've then switched to Zoner Antivirus (Free). Less known, but for some reason, I've read it detected more viruses than any other free Android antivirus.
Enjoy the ZEN Touch 2.

Having Trouble with Creative Zen Touch 20G

Hey everybody. I bought me a 20G Creative Zen Touch (you know, the one where the scroll thing is in the middle of the player, vertically?). Anyway, i bought it a couple of weeks ago and it's pretty **bleep** cool. No problems with it.....until today. I was watering the lawn, listening to my music (no, it didn't get wet), when all of a sudden it stopped working all together. Well, at first i saw some "Voice Recording" thing i had never seen before and no matter what i pushed, nothing happened. I couldn't even turn it off. I tapped it on the side, then it began working again. I decided to shut it off and put it in my room. Later when i went back to it,it wouldn't turn back on at all!!! Even though it's battery was charged, i decided to plug it into the charger where, once i plugged it in, i got a screen that said:
"CREATIVE ZEN
Copyright (c) 2004
Creative Technology Ltd.
All Rights Reserved"
And thats how it is currently: Nothing at all happens when it's disconnected from the charger and i try to turn it on. When connected to the charger, i get said screen, but thats it. No music, not even the blue backlight or the blue blinking light on the power button indicating that it's charging. :smileyindifferent:
Can someone tell me what's going on/how to fix this? We have been getting unbelievably hot weather here in So. Cal and i have the feeling that the hot temperature may have something to do with this. I've tried keeping the player in the coolest place in the house (besides the freezer) which would be near a fan so it could be in a cooler place, but even leaving it in such place for a couple hours isn't helping me.

Hey buddy
same problem with me. The zen got little moist due to rain, after that it froze at the 'Creative screen' that too comes on when i connect it to charger. I disconnected the battery, it worked for a while but it is back to same position now. It dosent responds to resetting pin... nothing happens it is dead. Only when i disconnect battey and connect charger ... give it a big whack it works for a while then hangs again.
Still trying my stuff on it. Otherwise i will format it and reload the firmware later on.
if u get any solution let me know on [email][email protected]][email protected][/url]
thankx

Zen touch 40gbs - News firmware - Probens with the new creative s

I have a big probems with this new suit.... I am trying to get some musics on my zen touch but when i click on organize media in this new suit, it opens a explorer but when i tried to copy the folder that i want to place on my computer it become empyt... anything inside...
then I tried with another program... Sync between pc and zen touch
It starts a creative sync manager but when i choose sync destination zen thuco FOR pc, after that i leave the audio checked and next... i setted the folder that i wanna leave my musics then i choose the "syncronized selected files" and i click on select tracks... but there another problem... It shows me just 0... 20 artists...becouse asked to sort by artists but i have on my zen touch more than 400 artists... i cant select the artists that i want to...
And with the explorer the folders with the artists become empyt or become with some files weard(any extantion). but when i asked to play the music ON my zen touch its ok...
Plz i wanna get my music and play on my computer how sould i do that without windows media player?

robertormpc wrote:But its not working... the mediasource its not working with this firmware this MediaSouce is not recognizing my zen touch... i update the media source for the last version
You didn't answer the question. Did you install that SPECIFIC download I mentioned? This is fundamental to get the Touch to work with MediaSource.

The Creative Zen Touch Movement: Active Creative Us

Who out there wants a skin for their Creative Zen Touch? Who is tired of the monopoly that Vaja cases has and forces you to buy their horrific case for 70 Big Ones? Who is tired of the Creative Case that is included and is extremely bulky and doesnt even have a screen to see what you are doing? Are you not tired of having to take the Zen Touch of the cases everytime you want to do something? Are you tired of users that have Iri'ver and Apple's Ipod having infinite accessory choices while you are limited to 2 case choices? If your answers to these questions were yes, this is the new movement for you. This movement will bombard companies like Iskin and xSkin with emails asking them to provide a Creative Zen touch alternati've for cases that are protecti've, photogenic, and sleek. This method works because Iskin and xskin want to make $$$ and with more emails they know they will make more money. My Ipod counterparts show off their Ipods and protecti've them with the xskin exo3 which is only 0.7mm thick, and cannot defend my creative zen touch because I have a bulky case that makes it 3 times as big. With a skin, my creative will be protected from scratchs, perfect for style points, and i dont have to take it out of a case everytime I want to change anything. This movement worked on the Iri'ver site where they overloaded the system with emails for Iri'ver skin requests, and 3 months later, Iskin rolls out a skin for the Iri'ver. We can do the same. I encourage you to assist me in this movement so we can bring the Creative Zen Touch to the top of all mp3 players trampling the Ipod and Iri'ver alltogether. Now whos with me? Its time for action because we are the Acti've Creative Zen Touch Users
We are sending emails to these sites
http://www.iskin.com/store/I2feedback.tpl
On this site fill in your name and email and then paste this message (below) into the comment zone:
The Creative Zen Touch Skin Movement
This is the Creative Movement brought to you by Creative Zen Touch users. We have had enough with the horrible cases that are offered to us as choices. We are look to towards you for salvation. We kindly ask that you create a skin for the Creative Zen Touch, our forums are overloaded with request. The market for a skin for the Zen Touch has great potential to grow and we offer you as our first choice to do so. We are tired of the Ipod and Iri'ver users who can show off their sleek mp3 player complimented by a sleek skin and a screen protector. We wish we can do the same. We want to level the playing field for all mp3 players and we are asking you to do so. I have talked to over 80,000 creative zen touch users via the Creative Forum and they are all urging for a skin and are willing to buy it. That is a great potential market you have in front of you. Thank you for your deep consideration. This movement is lead by Creative user dmai7.
- Your Concerned and Ambitious Customer

actually about the skin thing
if u wanna change the skin of your touch you ll have to brake the warranty patch that is over a screw and with it end your warranty time.
for stuff that sticks over the case its alright
and yes there should be more accessories to this thing
have fun

Creative MP3 Players (Especially ZEN Touch 2) durability: satisfied?

Hello,
I'm willing to buy a ZEN Touch 2, it look so amazing!
However, what I would like to know more: durability!
Is the ZEN Touch 2 (Or any other MP3 Player from Creative) durable enough?
I'll still have the year warrantee, but I'll need to ship it in the US, it'll need to be shipped at another adress in the US, and then shipped back to me (I'm in Canada).
That'll be a though job, you know.
My first MP3 , an Archos .5 Vision, died on me when it ran out of batteries for the first time; strangely, I reloaded it, and it had trouble booting.
My second and actual MP3, Archos 2 Vision, has brokens contacts in the headphone jack... -___-
Well, it still work, but it's really annoying.
If you are a ZEN Touch 2 owner, please give me your feedback!
Thanks you very much!

Hi Gamex I have a Zen Touch 2 with GPS in the UK. In the first 3 weeks, it froze 3 or 4 times, and then finally died when downloading the Creative update to Android 2.2. You need to be aware that Creative Tech Support seem not to have yet caught up with the fact that they have a new type of MP3 player, and all the Knowledgebase articles they will refer you to are not relevant, as they deal with the older hard dri've type of player. It took me all but a fortnight of shouting to get them to authorise its return for repair/replacement, which is where it is currently. In addition, if you're going for the GPS model, advertised as 8GB, be aware it's capacity for music etc is a mere 4.gb, and any apps you download will eat into that. The way round this is to buy a big micro SDHC card (I got a 32gb one) which integrates seamlessly into the player. You can opt to put the apps on there if you so wish. That's the bad bit; the good bit is that it looks and feels great, and the touchscreen, while not as responsi've as some, is more than acceptable, to me at least. The sound quality is not as good as some other Creative players, mainly due to the fairly low spec earbuds supplied. Get some good ones, and the sound is fine, although strangely there is no equalizer facility. The FM radio, with RDS, gives quite astonishing reception on the move. You can import playlists from Media Player, but there is no option for crossfading, so you get a fairly significant gap between tracks. There are a fair selection of apps available, including an antivirus one (I see you were asking elsewhere about that) but you cannot access Android market; apps are downloaded from the Ziio website. Battery life is obviously dependant on what you are doing; wifi and GPS use will inevitably eat power before your very eyes. Using it for music was giving me around hours (less than claimed). Video playback (which is also very good) brings that down to around 4 hours. Overall I would say I was a little dissapointed with it, but that said having been without it now for nearly 3 weeks I realise how much I want it back, so it can't be all bad! Hope this helps? Regards Mike F

If I send my Zen Touch in to Creative, will they delete my da

Here's the story. I got a Zen Touch from my parents for Christmas, and I was thrilled. I put on about 9 GB of music in the first few weeks. Then, poof, it freezes my computer when I try to connect to it. It was working fine the day before, and nothing special had happened, and I most certainly did not mistreat it. So I thought fine, I'll just try to figure it out later. Then, lo and behold, a few weeks after, it begins freezing. Every few minutes, it froze. Now, it freezes every few seconds. Firstly, a big thanks to Creative for spitting in my face. Secondly, my question now is: If I mail my Zen Touch to Creative, will they delete all the data on it, because I don't have a backup copy. If anyone could tell me from experience that this will not happen I'd be delighted, because there's over 2500 mp3's on it and they're rather important to me. Thankns.

I'm not surprised, darkone. We have an affinity for those who are like us. Additionally, the fact that they've sold millions of players is irrelevant. Have you ever heard of the medecine that many pregnant women took a few decades ago to relieve pain during pregancy, and then their babies were deformed or mentally handicapped? The number of units sold is not important. A million mothers took the drug, a million mothers had deformed babies.
Anyways, seeing as we can't stay on topic, and the question's been answered, lock this thread, please.
Message Edited by Irrelevant on 0-28-2005 05:42 PM

Creative Zen Touch Skin PLEEEAASSEEE HELP!!!

Who out there wants a skin for their Creative Zen Touch? Who is tired of the monopoly that Vaja cases has and forces you to buy their horrific case for 70 Big Ones? Who is tired of the Creative Case that is included and is extremely bulky and doesnt even have a screen to see what you are doing? Are you not tired of having to take the Zen Touch of the cases everytime you want to do something? Are you tired of users that have Iri'ver and Apple's Ipod having infinite accessory choices while you are limited to 2 case choices? If your answers to these questions were yes, this is the new movement for you. This movement will bombard companies like Iskin and xSkin with emails asking them to provide a Creative Zen touch alternati've for cases that are protecti've, photogenic, and sleek. This method works because Iskin and xskin want to make $$$ and with more emails they know they will make more money. My Ipod counterparts show off their Ipods and protecti've them with the xskin exo3 which is only 0.7mm thick, and cannot defend my creative zen touch because I have a bulky case that makes it 3 times as big. With a skin, my creative will be protected from scratchs, perfect for style points, and i dont have to take it out of a case everytime I want to change anything. This movement worked on the Iri'ver site where they overloaded the system with emails for Iri'ver skin requests, and 3 months later, Iskin rolls out a skin for the Iri'ver. We can do the same. I encourage you to assist me in this movement so we can bring the Creative Zen Touch to the top of all mp3 players trampling the Ipod and Iri'ver alltogether. Now whos with me? Its time for action because we are the Acti've Creative Zen Touch Users
We are sending emails to these sites
http://www.iskin.com/store/I2feedback.tpl
On this site fill in your name and email and then paste this message (below) into the comment zone:
The Creative Zen Touch Skin Movement
This is the Creative Movement brought to you by Creative Zen Touch users. We have had enough with the horrible cases that are offered to us as choices. We are look to towards you for salvation. We kindly ask that you create a skin for the Creative Zen Touch, our forums are overloaded with request. The market for a skin for the Zen Touch has great potential to grow and we offer you as our first choice to do so. We are tired of the Ipod and Iri'ver users who can show off their sleek mp3 player complimented by a sleek skin and a screen protector. We wish we can do the same. We want to level the playing field for all mp3 players and we are asking you to do so. I have talked to over 80,000 creative zen touch users via the Creative Forum and they are all urging for a skin and are willing to buy it. That is a great potential market you have in front of you. Thank you for your deep consideration. This movement is lead by Creative user dmai7.
- Your Concerned and Ambitious Customer

my god, THANK YOU FOR SOMEONE SAYING THIS, man, they got em out there, but only in the UK, and i dont know about you, but i li've in the US and im dying for the exspect skins to be in the us, can SOMEONE please tell me where to get them in the US or someone make them, cmon guys at creative, if they can do it, you sure can

Creative Zen Touch - Hard drive problems - HD upgr

Hi!
I bought my Creative Zen Touch almost a year ago now. Yesterday my hard dri've went crazy. The sound was a funky rythm, 0 DJ "scrathes" then one more high-pitched sound. In the Rescue menu I try to format the hard dri've and it responds with "Hard dri've problems."
Yes, it has fallen down several times. I don't know what caused it to malfunction this time though. It suddenly just stopped working. It looks like a mess, was bought over internet under the name of a mother of my frien; to make a long story short. I have no warranty :/
So here's what I decided; I opened it up to take a look inside it. Here's what I found:
- One loose battery, too much dirt on the sticky stuff.
- One hard dri've, model: HTC424020F7AT00
And here is my main questions:
- Can I use a 40gb Hitachi dri've in my 20GB Zen Touch? This is just the big brother, so the dri'ves are pretty much the same except storage space. http://tinyurl.com/4yurr
Thanks
- KennethMessage Edited by Kgjersda on 09-6-2005 04:4 PM

Tweaking 'n' Hacking Your Creative Zen Touch 20GB
Thanks for your reply SSR. I'm a clueless as to what the controller is, but at least I've found out that the Creative Zen Touch 20GB uses a .8" harddri've. So the larger Fujitsu Siemens 2.5" dri'ves, which the Creative Nomad Zen Players use, aren't compatible.
For anyone reading this post who wants a step-by-step guide to upgrading the harddri've of a Creative Nomad Zen Player (but NOT the Creative Zen Touch 20GB), visit PC World magazine online for a "how to" article: http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article...67,pg,7,00.asp
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If anyone has experience of tweaking/hacking the Creative Zen Touch 20GB or if anyone should come across a similar "how to" guide for upgrading its harddri've (and knows of specific models of compatible .8" hardri'ves) - then please post on this forum.
Cheers........... Tim Holmes.

New Zen Touch not being detected by Windows

I just bought a 20 gig Zen Touch off ebay, and tried to get it to run.
The firmware on the Zen tells me it's version 2..0, which is the PlaysForSure version. So, I downloaded the driver specific to PlaysForSure, and tried to run it. It looked like it installed just fine, but when I plug in the player, it just recognizes it (at the start) as Creative Zen Touch, and opens up the Found New Hardware wizard. So, I don't think it recognizes my Zen.
This, of course, leads to all the programs not being able to recognize my Zen, either, and to me not being able to reload the firmware (just in case), or anything of the sort. Not really sure how to proceed, and I've been scanning the help files, which have been no help. The knowledge database seems to suggest that Windows XP will just load the proper drivers, which, of course, it doesn't.
How do I proceed? I thought this would be the answer, but it presumes that Windows will detect the device as an MTP, and somehow just find the right driver, which it doesn't.
I'm at a bit of a loss as to where I go from here. The drivers aren't installing, and the closest I can get is my Device Manager showing the Creative Zen with a big yellow question mark next to it, because the drivers aren't installed properly.
Help?

Try downloading and installing the latest drivers, Creative Zen and Jukebox Driver Upgrade version .30.03.
Also try running a disk cleanup from rescue mode.

Why is the Zen Touch.

I just wanted know know one thing, WHY DID YOU GUYS MAKE THE SMALLER ONES BETTER THAN THIS?!?!?! I own a 40gb creative zen touch and a friend of mine has a smaller 5gb one with exactly everything the touch has except the touch pad on the smaller one is better (liek the design you guys decided to choose) and having radio, as well as having the mic thing where you can record anything without using your computer. For example you can record important meetings in case you miss something out during the meeting without have a microphone connected to the computer to record. (if you dont know what i mean well i mean you just have the mp3 and you put the record function on during a conversation and you can listen to it afterwards instead of using a regular computer with a microphone at home...)
Anyway my whole point is why make the smaller ones better than the bigger ones? 20-40gb is very nice but why make some smaller ones better and more options to work with? Is it because the Zen Touch's are older and the smaller ones are newer?
This makes me want to get a refund now and get a Zen Vision or whatever can do Radio/Music/Pictures/videos/mic recording/lots of size (20gb or 40gb).
Basically this sounds like a media source player but i have no idea since the things are so big and can barely fit in a pocket.
Please respond in advance and thank you for your time.
EDIT: I forgot to ask, why is the Zen Touch so thick?Message Edited by Someguy0 on 0-23-2006 :53 PM

The reason (I speculate) that the Zen Touch doesn't have all the features that the Zen Micro has is because it is a much older player. It was made before Creative started putting FM radio adn Microphones in all their players.
And it is so thick because of the 24 hour battery, which takes up a good part of the player.

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