Zen touch Hard disk er

Hi to all, and sorry for my not god english. I've buy a Zen touch 20 Gb last year, and it's worked god. But last month, i want to hear a mp3 and i power my zen, but he going to start, reply whit and error. I try to update the formware, but the error not be removed. When i'm try to format, the response id "Hard disk error". What can i do? If i want to change the Hard disk, it's possible?
Thanks for the reply

Cat/Daniel,
If there is a recurring issue with the harddri've on the older 5gb Zen Micros, does the consumer have to pay the price for these problems? My unit was purchased direct from Creative's website for Christmas 2004. Nine months later in September 2005 the dri've just died. Only the "Creative" screen would come up. Sent back to Creative and they chose to send me a "new" unit. Great. Only problem is, nine months later, and the harddri've goes out AGAIN! Same exact problem! And this Zen has ALWAYS been handled with gentle hands, like a real harddri've should. No jarring, jolts, hits....etc.
Ah, but now Creative says even though this same defect occurred on a "new" unit less than a year old there is no 2-month warranty attached to the unit. Huh? Apparently, Creative doesn't stand behind these new units they issue as replacements. What gives? Why not stand behind the product, regardless of whether that product is new from a store, or new from the manufacturer as this one claimed to be? If these units go out with short-shelf lifes shouldn't the consumer be told in advance, that you MAY get a year's worth of workability out of it's As James (5353) in technical support emailed to me: "I apologize for the inconvenience, but according to the information provided, you are also beyond your complimentary e-mail support period. Since you are outside of the warranty we can not provide any type of email support (including RMAs)."Yikes.....so NOW what do I do with this defecti've Zen?

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) Purchased a HITACHI Travelstar C4K60 hard dri've on ebay for $57 (shipping included). The model number on the one I got is HTC426040G9AT00. This is not the same exact dri've that came with the player, but it is the same brand. From what I gather, they key is to get a dri've that's
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3) Pulled out the old dri've, put in the new one. Pretty self explanatory once you've opened it up following the site above. I used a small screwdriver to gently pry the old dri've off as it's in there pretty tight.
4) Put the player back together. Note, the touchpad won't work well unless all the screws are in fairly tight, so be sure to do that.
5) Start up player. The menu should come up giving you four options, Clean Up, Format All, Reload OS, and Reboot. Run Format All. It should just take a few seconds.
6) Install firmware. Download it from here, http://www.nomadworld.com/language.asp?sDestUrl=/support/downloads. Run the .exe file with your Zen plugged into the USB on your computer. From there you should just have to follow the prompts.
You player should now be back in working order and you can now reload your music. Hopefully you backed it up. :-)
I would estimate this took me 3 hours of work, 2 hours of which were spent trying to unscrew those darn screws! Well worth the $22 I saved. The process wasn't very complicated at all and takes very little techinical knowledge. I hope this helps others as this seems to be a common problem. Thanks to whoever made that guide to opening the Zen, you saved me a lot of money!

Bump, nice post Bertt and I'm happy very happy you took the time to post your success story. Unfortunatly the link is down for me at the moment, I tried a quick google search for "Opening a Zen Touch" but didn't find anything useful. Their is still valuable HD info that everyone should take a look at.
Also I agree with your comment that replacing a HD doesn't take much tech understanding, especially a direct replacement. You just have to put everything back the way it was when you opened it. So good luck for all you who try to save yourselves a good amount of $$ (I dont think you even including S/H in the price you listed.)

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I bought my Creative Zen Touch almost a year ago now. Yesterday my hard dri've went crazy. The sound was a funky rythm, 0 DJ "scrathes" then one more high-pitched sound. In the Rescue menu I try to format the hard dri've and it responds with "Hard dri've problems."
Yes, it has fallen down several times. I don't know what caused it to malfunction this time though. It suddenly just stopped working. It looks like a mess, was bought over internet under the name of a mother of my frien; to make a long story short. I have no warranty :/
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