Zen Touch problem caused by drive

I bought My Touch back in May 2004, because of its great reputation and awsome battery life. and for the most im pleased with it, but i do have one big problem.
When installing the drivers where these are the ones from the Cd or the Newest drivers i always have the same problem. when i plug my player into my computer, my PC recognises it and windoes pops up the little icons etc. but then it makes my computer do something very unusual, when i try and open a program, such as firefox, it will open and it will use my system resources but i can not use the program it like i never clicked the program at all, but it does use my resources.
i know this is caused by drivers because when i dont install the drivers and let realplayer use its own drivers to transfere with the zen its fine.
Its like my zen is a switch, and when i unplug it, all is fine when its pluged in it goi'ves me trouble.
I have windows Xp + SP2, with all updates, My Zen Touch has the newest firmware, and my PC has the newest software drivers.
I would apreciate some help on this, as i have searched through the forums and other sites but cant seem to find anythin like this.
ThanksMessage Edited by neesk on 2-02-2005 2:39 AM

SSR wrote:
How about running in safe mode, does that make any difference?
The drivers for the player are not loaded in safe mode. Windows only loads essential drivers that enable your computer to run at minimal functionality. Therefore the player will not be dectected by Windows.
To try and find out if the problem is associated with drivers, try using Selecti've Startup from the MSCONFIG utility.

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2. WMA and data files added to new player without any problems. Players seems to work well.
3. More files added, but I started receiving an error when trying to copy files to the player from the computer. It seems that the player requires significant power to talk to the computer, this problem was more prevalent on a computer with USB .. A full battery charge will work but this will be drained quickly, so the best bet is to plug the player into the mains while it is docked with the computer. This should be added to the manual.
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To Creative,
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Number 6 has turned out to be my electronic albatross. I have attempted every concept that I have read on this board: wiped down the keypad with a towel, damp cloth, bought a plastic case in an attempt to ward off static electricity, reset the unit, cleaned up the hard dri've, etc.. The fact remains that the unit jumps when it wants to. Very disconcerting. I have decided that since Creative is well aware of the issue and is maintaining corporate silence, that I should just cut my losses and buy an iPod. Tested one at an Apple store last night and was impressed with the control and functionality of their click wheel. It is a real shame as I truly think this Zen Touch was a cool idea but has consistently lacked support and follow up by Creative.
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and I never got a reply.
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