ZEN touch to be replaced by 20GB ZEN mic

http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.249
If this is true then Creative best make the ZEN Micro 20GB's battery 25 hours plus.

Battery life for the new Zen "is" only eleven hours. Personally, I think this new model is a huge step backwards. Creative is only doing this in an effort to emulate the sucess of the Zen Micro. The reason the Micro is more successful is two fold. First, it's smaller. Size has never been an issue for me. My Zen Touch usually sits on a shelf at work or in my car. I have no itention of clipping it to my waist or even carrying it in a pocket. However, let's face it. The largest market for DAPs is primarily made up of kids. For them, size is a major factor. Second, the Zen Touch was poorly marketed right from the start. I can't remember seeing it advertised anywhere. On the other hand, you can't avoid the ads for the Zen Micro.
http://www.asia.cnet.com/reviews/por...390880p,00.htm

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http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product=0274&dlcentric=868&Product_N ame=ZEN+Touch&OSName=Windows+XP
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http://www.nomadness.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=42838

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(Creative Zen Touch 20GB - Windows Vista6 Hi folks,
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Pob wrote:
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-FM tuner and recorder within the player itself. Zen touch, on the other hand, has a FM tuner on its remote control (sold separately in certain regions).
-Removable disc function (which means you can plug it into ANY computer and start transferring data files for storage etc.). Zen touch, also has that function, except that in order for it to be able to start transferring data between device and PC, the PCs which you want to transfer data must have some drivers installed first before that can take place.
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-=GlenZEN=-

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