Zen Touch/Zen Micro deb

I am currently deliberating over which MP3 player to buy, and having read online reviews, I have decided to buy a Creative Jukebox. However, I am finding it incredibly dificult to decide which one to choose, between the Touch and the Micro.
On one hand the Touch has 20GB of storage, whereas the Micro only has 5GB, as we all know. However, I am also intending on using the player as an external storage device. Unfortunately the Touch will not allow you to do this without installing software on every computer you wish to use with the player. A MAJOR drawback. Is the Micro recognized automatically as a removable dri've by Windows?
Are Creative seriously planning on writing firmware that allows the Touch to be recognized as a removable Dri've? I believe they intend not to, as it is a driving factor for potential customers to choose their smaller flagship product, the Micro, rather than th Touch. They both have similar price tags. I therefore believe that the reasons aren't technical, they are marketing.
Creative: please concentrate on this factor of the Touch. It would turn it from a great device to an awesome device.
Also, I was wondering if this software found on sourceforge works with the Touch? And if it allows Winamp to recognise and use the Touch as any other mp3 player?
(Thanks to anyone who replies to this message, i'm pretty new to this Forum malarky!!)

I doubt the Touch will ever have firmware support for uni'versal mass storage (UMS).
What it will soon have though, is MTP support. Meaning no additional drivers/software will be needed to drag and drop both data and music, provided you have WinXP and Windows Media Player 0.
The Micro has a "removable disk mode" that allows you to use up to 2 GB of the space for a UMS partition. I don't think the Touch will get this.
To be honest, I don't think storing data files on a DAP is all that big a feature to most people. Those little flash dri'ves are cheaper now and much more convenient for that purpose.

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  • ZEN TOUCH OR MICRO

    after i decided to buy an mp3 player i did a ton of research and looking around for the best one to get. i narrowed it down to either the zen touch or the micro. i can them both for about the same price at about 220. now i cant decide after reading a TON of reviews. if anyone who has one (or both) could give me some advice on the subject it would be appreciated. thanx
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    To put in a positi've word for the Touch, I absolutely love it, and I don't think it is as bulky as many people make it out to be. It fits nicely in the hand or pocket (though probably not the shirt pocket), it feels solid, and it really isn't all that heavy. It also has two important functional things that the micro doesn't have. Most important is the dedicated volume button, which allows you to control the volume when the player is in your pocket. In my opinion, this isn't a minor detail. I think it would be a huge pain in the butt to have to pull out the player and navigate through menus every time you wanted to adjust the volume. I don't know about anybody else, but I am constantly adjusting the volume when I listen to anything on headphones, especially earbuds. Second, the Touch has an actual "OK" button, which allows the user to disable the "tap to select" feature. Many folks seem to find the touch pad easier to use when this feature is disabled.
    For me, someone who owns well over 000 Cds, there is something wonderful about being able to carry around a significant portion of your record collection in your pocket. Also, I feel much more free to rip Cds at higher bitrates with my Touch, since I have so much more space. Which gets back to my first point.

  • Zen Touch or Zen Mi

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  • Zen Touch 40GB and Windows Vista

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    $A longer-term, but one-time solution for the Zen Touch, Xtra & Micro (and a few, but not most, Sleeks & MicroPhotos) with original Creative PDE drivers and .x.x firmware (read the FAQs for more details):
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  • Zen Touch Pad Sensitiv

    i found this out in nomadness in their forum that if we put the sensitivity on high that there is better control and much less overshoting a song in which you desire. Gi've it a try and see what happens ? i think it was a great idea cause i never tried it before, i automatically put it on low because of other complaints in the forum but now high is much better.

    I have a Zen Touch here and there's a definite difference between the three options. Check which part of the touchpad you're using aswell. On the Zen Touch (and Micro), the upper part (closest to the screen) is for fast scrolling up, the very bottom part is for fast scrolling down, the middle section of the touch pad is for normal scrolling up or down. If it's still too sensiti've on all settings, or doesn't respond properly, there may be a hardware fault (contact Support in that case).
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  • Updated and smaller Zen Touch using Hitachi's newest C4k60 hard disk

    The new Hitachi C4k60 hard disk is really small and is NOT inside the "actual" Zen Touch:
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    I just saw the archos gmini xs200 in a local shop, had it in hands:
    it's really a nice player, and it's so small for a 20gb one, but from different online reviews, true battery life is only about 8hours and battery isn't removable. This sucks !!!
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  • Is the Zen Touch 2 compatible with micro SDHC?

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    4- The LCD light could use a fixing.
    Micro
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    2- Comes with a lot of features for its price. (FM, MIC, date and planner, removable disc mode, etc)
    3- Better looking and is more compact and smaller, fits almost newhere.
    4 - Software is better and is more reliable, plus removable battery.
    5 - 0 colors to choose from.
    6 - Comes with a few of accesories ( Belt clip, stand, pouch)
    Final - I have tried both the touch and micro for 2 months respecti'vely and the micro is better cause of its many features and creative really stepped up and fixed many problems that people were having with the touch so i suggest u go with the ZEN micro

  • Zen Micro to Zen Touch convers

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    If you just want to get all the songs on your Micro to your Touch so it will have all the same songs, you could Sync your Zen Micro to your PC in Creative Media Source, then sync Creative Media Source to the Zen Touch.

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    One for the Zen Micro wouldn't hurt either. It might even be the better of the two to release first.
    If anybody else agrees with me, please reply.

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  • Which is the bestmicro phot, micro, ipod, zen touch or theYH925GS they all revolves around

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    3Y3 5P33|< 337!!!
    icreative wrote:
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    My Translation:
    In the future
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