ZEN V (Plus) Track Detail View bitrate b

I have noticed, that bitrate of VBR MP3 files is shown incorrectly in ZEN V (Plus) Track details view. It looks like the bitrate shown is actually a bitrate of only FIRST MPEG frame not average of all track.
You can easily test this by looking tracks bitrate in Winamp file info and then look at the shown bitrate of the same track in your ZEN V (Plus) player.
I think it is a bit annoying bug and really hope that this bug will be corrected soon.
What do you think?
P.S. My ZEN V Plus firmware version is .0.03eMessage Edited by Bytec on 2-05-20062:08 PM

Hold down the "Back" button. A list of options will come up. The one at the top ("View All") is what you want.
For future reference, a lot of things seem to be done by holding down that button
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However, I've just tried ripping the audio from a music DVD, which involved manually setting the track numbers in MediaMonkey. Once on the Zen they play fine, but right joystick moves between seemingly arbitrary tracks, so Track , Track 5, Track 6, Track 3, Track 2, etc..... Any ideas why it's not behaving as expected? Is it using something other than the track number tag to determine the order?
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laflaone,I cannot find Iraqman's posting. I have tried searching for it with no luck...Could you please guide me (or post the link)?Many thanks
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Hold down the "Back" button. A list of options will come up. The one at the top ("View All") is what you want.
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8p

Zen V Plus - track seek times completely screwed

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This bug has manifested itself in the bookmark function too. It allows me to set a bookmark, but when I select the bookmark, it resumes playing from somewhere totally different than where I set the bookmark.
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I'll try to answer your questions:-. Using XP (home edition) SP 22. Using ZenV Plus, 2 gb2.a? Have used Creative Media, Windows Media Player, but prefer Overdri've Media Console (simpler, faster, great)3. Have never tried to load books from another computer.4. Do not purchase or rent books. I get them all from library.4.a. I have used Net Library but get most of them through SEO Library Consortium. That's where I downloaded the Overdri've Media Console software from.5. They are regular "audio" books, recorded on tracks. I have gotten some with as many as 3 tracks. I think the track sizes generally must correlate to the size/capacity of a CD.6. I believe they have all been wma format and they are "licensed" to you for a specific period, just like when you check them out from any library. I had the same problem with keeping up with the story line at first until I figured out the navigation and particularly the "seek" and "bookmark" functions.
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P-4
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2) Whether I view the track list in Windows Media Player or in the Creative Media Menu the track list appears in its original order as seen on the CD.
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Hi all,
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This happened to me on my zen v plus 4GB.
I fixed it by resetting and then starting in recovery mode and choosing the "clean up" option. To do this, reset your zen through the pinhole. Then hold down the play button while turning the player on. When you see the creative logo on the screen, release the play button.
A recovery mode menu should then appear. Choose "clean up". That's what worked for me. "Clean up" doesn't delete anything from your player, but the format option will. Also, definitely don't choose "reload firmware" unless you have a copy of the firmware on your computer!
See:
http://93.95.7.84/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/,/?St=45,E=00000000008699925,K=524,Sxi=3,VARSET=ws:h ttp://us.creative.com/,case=4794
for more details.
Hope this helps!
dordale Message Edited by dordale on 0-07-200704:44 PM

Zen Stone Plus Battery Life Test -Summ

Battery Life/ Playtime: Up to 9.5 hours for continuous audio playback
Battery Type: Rechargeable Li-Ion Polymer (Embedded)
*CREATIVE specifications.
I had tested on my zen stone plus battery life... I used uni'versal travel adapter for zen micro to fully charged my zen stone before began my test... I let it continuous audio playback till all battery drained
Detail :
* 30 Song, ~80 song is rock/techno, ~50 song is pop
* Bit Rate: 28-320 kbps
* Audio sample rate: 44kHz
* Bass Boost On
* EQ set to rock
* Continuous audio playback - No skipping Tracks
* Volume - 3/40
* No headphone plugged -(Because of this battery life might vary, whether u use high powered
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* Firmware .03.0
* Player's date and time - Off
* Idle Shutdown - 0s
* Contrast - 40%
* Waked up the player from idle few time ( To check my player condition)
* Result : 8.8 hrs ( 8 hr 4 min 2++ sec) for the above condition.
First 3 hrs - Full bar
Next 4 hrs - Left 2 bar
Next hrs - Left bar
Next 40 min - Battery drained (Player shut down by itself)
**Estimated * as i said i check my player condition few time
P.s. If i missed out anything, Please tell Me.
Thank !Message Edited by hippon2 on 0-8-200707:34 PM
Message Edited by hippon2 on 0-8-200707:36 PM

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Creative Zen Nano Plus Firmware Upgrade 1.03

Hi everyone,
Just wanted to make you aware of an update that has just been posted on our site.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=540 bgColor=#eeeeee border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD height=5><FONT color=blue> (<FONT color=#222222 size=><B>.6 MB</B>) </TD>
<TD><FONT color=#222222 size=>2 Sep 05 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE id=Table5 borderColor=#cccccc cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=540 border=>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD colSpan=2><B>Filename: </B><B>ZenNanoPlus_PCFW_LF__03_02.exe</B></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD colSpan=2> ZENP-FWARE-2-LF
<DIV id=ShortDesc>
This upgrade improves the functionality of your Creative Zen? Nano Plus player. For complete functionality, make sure that you meet the requirements listed below before installing this upgrade.
<DIV id=Features>
<EM>Enhancement:</EM>
Supports Thai unicode character display.
</LI>
<DIV id=Fixes>
<EM>Fix</EM>:
Ensures proper functionality of WMA playback when you move forward or backward within a track.
Improves Shuffle mode randomization when you play back a large number of MP3 tracks.</LI>
<DIV id=Notes>
<EM>Requirements:</EM>
Microsoft Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows Millennium Edition or Windows 98 Second Edition (SE)
Available USB port (version . or higher)
Creative Zen Nano Plus player
For Windows 98 SE only: Creative Mass Storage drivers .05.0.250 or later, available from the Installation CD or the Internet</LI>
<EM>Notes:</EM>
This firmware upgrade only works with Creative Zen Nano Plus players. Do not install this upgrade for other players.
You will lose all content in your player when you install the firmware. Back up any audio or data files in your player to your computer before upgrading the firmware.
To install this firmware upgrade, do the following:
Download the ZenNanoPlus_PCFW_LF__03_02.exe file into your local hard disk.
Connect your player to your computer.
Double-click the firmware upgrade file.
When prompted to set your player in Recovery mode, disconnect your player from your computer.
Press and hold the Play button while connecting your player to your computer's USB port.
Continue to hold the Play button for about 0 seconds after connecting your player to your computer.
Release the Play button when the Find New Hardware dialog box appears on the computer screen.
Follow the instructions on the screen to install recovery drivers for your player.
Double-click the firmware upgrade file and follow the instructions on the screen.</LI>
</LI>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I went ahead and updated it anyway. One little thing I noticed was now the volume only goes up to 25 like my Zen Touch instead of 40 or whatever that it did before. Same loudness, different numbers only. Other than that, I have not noticed anything different, but it seemed to work OK scrolling through a song with the old firmware. I did not, obviously, do a detailed comparison.

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I've had my player since September 2005 and have NEVER had any trouble out of it until 2 days ago. The problem...When I am listening to a track and use the wheel to back it up and listen to it again or the track before it, the player shuts off. I've been reading the posts here and realize I probably need some new firmware but which one do I need. Also my daughter has a 52 mb player that started doing the same thing.
thanks in advance
August22

August22,
The new firmware for the Zen Nano Plus is available on the Downloads page, it was released on the 25th of August. It includes this fix:
Resolves the issue of your player (battery level full) turning off, while playing a 28 kbps DRM-protected WMA file. </LI>
Please note that (as it states in the details fiel) this firmware does remove your player's FM recording feature.
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Zen Nano Plus connection problems - SOLVED (1/2/06)

I recently bought the Nano Plus. On first installation everything worked fine. I decided to upgrade to the latest drivers and firmware via downloads from the Creative site. At some point during the firmware upgrade, everything seemed to hang. Eventually I had to halt the process, disconnect the player and reboot.
When I plugged the player back in, it is detected as a USB Mass Storage Device, but Windows Explorer and the Zen Nano Plus Media Explorer both claim that the device is not connected.
Here's what I have done so far:
)Uninstalled all drivers and Creative software, rebooted, reinstalled drivers/software, rebooted. When plugging the player in, a brief window pops up saying Zen Nano Plus has been detected. This is followed by USB Mass Storage Device being detected (this window stays up a lot longer, sometimes more than 5-0 minutes before disappearing).
2)Another uninstall/reinstall, but this time with a registry cleanup in between. Same result.
3)Tried installing installation cd on partner's laptop and plugging in the player. Absolutely everything works fine. So it's not my player. There must be something I still need to do on my desktop to get everything to work again.
4)Have also tried plugging into every USB outlet on the desktop. No change.
My system:
Windows XP (sp 2)
3.2 GHz
Intel 865 chipset
2 GB RAM
My Zen Nano Plus is currently running .0.03 firmware (latest).
On this desktop I am running the latest drivers (Creative Mass Storage Drivers .07.00.250)
When the player is plugged in, device manager shows no problems. Under Disk Dri'ves, Creative Zen Nano Plus USB Device is listed (and says the driver is from Microsoft, 7//0, version 5..2535.0). Under USB, USB Mass Storage Device is listed (and says the driver is from Microsoft, 7//0, version 5..2600.0).
I have tried manually updating these drivers to anything listed in the Creative folders upon installation, but it does not detect anything. When I check the drivers listed on the laptop that works with the player, these same driver details show up.
Any advice would be appreciated. I certainly would hate to only use my partner's laptop every time I want to update my music. I am also frustrated and puzzled as to why my player first worked on my desktop and now doesn't.Message Edited by lcvdw on 0-03-2006 2: AMMessage Edited by lcvdw on 0-03-2006 2:2 AM

lcvdw wrote:Can you tell me what I am supposed to see if it is connected properly?
With your player connected and View, Devices by Connection selected in Device Manager navigate through as follows:
Advanced Config and Power Interface (ACPI) PC
->Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
-->PCI Bus
You should then see a series of USB Host Controllers that you will have to click through in turn to find the one your player is connected to.
Underneath each controller should be a USB Hub, and then devices are listed beneath the hubs.
For my N200 I have USB Mass Storage Device, Creative MuVo N200 USB Device then Generic Volume.
Your entry should be similar but with Zen Nano Plus instead of N200.
While you're there, right-click on the entry for the hub attached to your player and select Properties. On the Power tab it will show how much current the port can supply and in the Attached Devices list it will show how much power the player needs. In my case the hub supplies 500mA and the player needs 00mA.
PB
Message Edited by PeeBee on 2-30-2005 02:05 PM

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