Zen Vision M 60gb 600$ !?!?!?!?

ok so i located a website from creative that is the only place in the world that sells the 60gb ZVM and everything on the website is WAY overpriced what is up with that heres the website to look at it... sg.store.creative.com i figured the ZVM would be lik 400 cause the 30gb is only 300 or 250 some places but the 30 gb is 350 and the 60gb is 600 and i really dont want an ipod i want a zen GRR creative GRR :angry:

kickenchicken wrote:
he was checking on the singapre site. the singapore site has everything in singapore dollars not us or uk.
He seems to be talking in US dollars when he says that in some places the 30GB is $250 or $300.

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I'm sad about it.
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CompUSA
http://www.compusa.com/products/products.asp?N=200365+400974&Ne=400000&Cn=Electron ics_iPods_Portable_Audio_iPod_MP3_Players
Circuit City
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/MP3-Players-iPods/sem/rpsm/catOid/-2952/N/2002898+2002952+40000884/link/ref/rpem/ccd/categorylist.do
Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat0550005002&type=category
Radio Shack
http://www.radioshack.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=20323&cp=2032054&allCount=8&f bc=&f=Brand%2F00042%2F&fbn=Brand%2FCreative+Labs ++
Staples
http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesSearch?keyword=creative+zen+m&storeId=000&c atalogId=005&langId=-&errorUrl=searchnoresults&searchSumUrl=searchresul tssummary&searchUnsumUrl=searchresults&fromUrl=hom e
Office Depot
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hey man, i suggest you take some more time to look into it and not just look to creative to do all your research. i just did a google search
and in under a minute i found a few stores that may carry what you are looking for. walmart.com wow. im guessing there is a walmart near you. just give them
a call and see if they have it in stock. if there is a cambridge soundworks around your area check there(http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?item=lzvm6bk&akhg999=WBZRTECSG5)
Dont put down creative for them not doing all your research. spend some more time to look up something if your going to buy it. also dont look at all the "big" retailers for all your needs..

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