Zen Vision M Hanging Is

I have a new Zen Vision M I picked up in Singapore last week (June , 2006). It seems to hang quite a bit. When this happens it will repeat the last perhaps 6th second of audio over and over....kind of a long stutter and not respond to any buttons. I have had to reset the device using the hole at the bottom. I had to do this several times on the Singapore -> Melbourne flight (6+ hours). In the last week I have had to reset several more times. Once when powering it up it hung. It seems I have to keep a pin taped to the device to regularly reset it. Looking around on this site I see references to this problem happening with Firmware version .2x, but this device came with .30.02 on it when I purchased it. Just in case I tried downloading .30.02 and installing it anyway, but all I get is a message that says: Your player is not connected, please connect your player.
I would love to see this problem go away and I look forward to any suggestions on how to fix it.

I had similar problems with a Zen Vision M purchased less than two weeks ago.
I was running firmware .40.x at the time, so that was not the problem.
I did the Rescue Mode Clean up of the dri've. But the problem recurred. So that was not the problem.
Thinking it might be some form of electronics or hard dri've problem, I just let the player play music continuously trying to exacerbate the problem and get it to reproduce the problem.
After a week of owning it, the player became so wedged that not even a reset would resolve the problem. Literally the unit would not reboot and I had to let the battery completely run out as there was no way to do a hard power reset (i.e. pull the battery).
Last night I returned it to BestBuy and exchanged it for a new unit. So far no problems withn the past 20 hours. (The first unit had some UI sluggishness and non responsi'veness the first day out). While the unit booted fine at the BestBuy exchange department, by the time I was signing the paperwork for the exchange, the technician on duty said the player had hung itself.
I'm letting the player play music continously to see if player was a bum player or of player 2 is part of a manufacturing batch problem.
I like my wife's Creative Zen Microphoto so am disappointed by the experience with this first ZVM and the fact that I only got an automated reply from Creative Customer support and no other responses after 0 days.

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    Connect your ZEN to a "USB-PORT" (not to a "hub")?A USB-PORT is located on your computer (the box). A "Hub" is a little box connected to one USB-PORTS and it "splits" this port into several USB-Connectors... ideally useful for "devices" that do not required lost of information or current (i.e. mouse, drawing table, keyboard, etc). Devices that required a continuous or heavy amounts of information (i.e. External Hard Dri'ves, Camcorders, Webcams sometimes, required an individual USB-PORT)<?Two things here:?- This link is for the original messagehttp://forums.creative.com/creativel...essage.id=7293?[size="+2"][color="#ff0000"]2- Happy Conclusion installing the ZEN Vision M (30 Gig)<i>(I am writing this for several reasons. Mainly, because it was a difficult installation and I wanted to summarize the 200 or 300 steps/actions I did that led me to solve the problem successfully. I always do this when I have a difficult installation and then I save it for the next time I need it (i.e. changing computers). I certainly don?t want to waste all that effort. One thing I learned about ?technology? is hard to learn it but it can be forgotten so easily, if you don?t take notes.)</i>
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    Second, the Creative applications were horrible at first, they would not open right away and when they did? sometimes 5 or 0 seconds later? they would crash just by clicking on something? and so Windows kept giving me those Error boxes and I kept sending them to Microsoft?(I must have sent at least 00 if not more!) I was also having problems with my graphics, every time an application would crash, then all kind of weird graphics would take place when dragging things around. I also had problems at one time with my Anti-virus/fire-wall Icon going dark after several re-boots, so I had to kick it to get it working?. Oh well, I just want you to get a flavor for how bad things were yesterday.
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    [size="+2"][color="#ff3300">So how did?everything go?from ?so bad? to ?so wonderful?? <i>I don?t really know exactly!</i>
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    ?2 - As I read and read, things began to come back to my brain. Especially a post reply that gave me the hint (Reformatting the dri've in the Zen) would finally let me ?transfer? my stuff to the Zen
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    ?- At this?point?I opened the ?Creative Media Source organizer,? went to my ?playlist? and from there, just click and drag some songs and dropped them on top of the Zen Icon (just like dropping files in a folder). And yes, the files were finally ?transferred? to the ZEN. Unplugged the USB cable from the Zen (or the Zen does not play anything). The songs were there and I was FINALLY able to listen to them from the ZEN!... Wonderful. Oh yes, using the same technique (drag and drop), I put a wmv video and was able to watch it as well... Now I know why people rave about the little screen... nice!
    ?2- In the mean time, without noticing? Just like the nice lady?from the post said, everything seemed to have fallen into place!
    ?In Summary: The applications ( the creative programs=icons)?were opening normally and quickly now, and many of the errors I got before when clicking on certain things, disappeared. I am sure I will still find some problems here and there, but basically the thing works now the way it is supposed to.
    ?Just a matter of clicking, dragging and dropping items?into the Zen?.yes, that simple!
    ?Good luck!
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    Here's the problem. While listening to my music yesterday I encountered a message saying - Playback Error. This error persisted after changing the track. After going home and reformatting, reinstalling firmware, downgrading -> upgrading firmware, reformatting over and over and over again, disk clean up, system restore, reboots, default restore, reformatting, again reformatting, deleting every piece of information I could delete...... you might be getting the picture so far.... After doing all of this I was unable to download tracks again onto my MP3 player. The only ones I can upload are unprotected content. I got thinking maybe there is a problem in my DRM file..... Where is my DRM file on the MP3 player and how do I delete it's You can't. At least not what I found. So again I tried everything over and over again and nothing works. I'm at my wits end trying to figure this out. I have a 30gb Creative Zen Vision: M player, Windows XP/Vista 64, Napster ToGo and now I can't use my MP3. This unit is a month old and I cannot use it. PLEASE HELP ME. This is very long winded but I'm hoping this will help a little. Thanks in advance, I'm going insane without my music.

    Well I have never used a service like that. That's all I can think of off hand.

  • There's video problems with my Zen Vision:M already (M video cable related) Please help

    Some background...
    System:Windows XP with Service Pack 2.
    Player: Brand new Creative Zen Vision: M with no firmware updates.
    My Zen Vision:M has a problem (besides the scratch and fingerprint attracting top surface): It won't play videos on a TV screen when the M Video Cable (also from Creative) is linked to it anymore. It's only been a few hours...
    I had the cable already, and got the player today. I let the player charge to /4th of a battery while I was setting up all the software. I ran the software programs just to take a peek, only changing the name of my player (to my name). I used Winamp 5.3 to put a music track on the player to test it. After that, I hooked it up to the VCR in my room through the white and yellow A/V plugs in front. It worked just fine. It to the tv a little large, but I was okay with it.
    Later on today, the new AC charger I ordered came in the mail (Player came through UPS, charger through USPS). I looked at my old charger (Creative Zen Touch) and realized it would work with the plug-in part of the sync unit at the bottom. I tested it for a minute and it did. I still took it out and tried the new one. This is where, I think, something happened. I had to press the sides to get the thing in, and it was hard to come out. Everything still fit just right, and nothing seemed to be wrong. I used my old charger as I added more of my music library. Now it was on to videos. I had to convert the first two test vids (they were .wmv), but they played on my player fine. I put a bigger .wmv file onto the player to see if it had to convert it, and it did. It still played on the player. When I go to hook it to the TV with the A/V cord again, there was nothing but a black screen with the occasional diagonal scan line. The sound is still there.
    Besides quirks with the navigational system, the player is still great for music and video. Still, I needed no video capability, and one of the things that made the ZVM a buy for me was watching my vids on the big screen. I'd return this for a second try, but I want to know if this is a recurring issue with you guys and if there's something I can do to fix it before a return. Did I mess with a setting? Should I get new firmware? Did I do wrong using my old charger? If any of you have an answer, or need more info on my situation, please let me know.
    And BTW, does anyone know of some better software for organizing files on the ZVM? I used Winamp for my Zen Touch and the music on my ZVM, but videos are another ballpark. I can't transfer a video from one folder to another folder (assuming both folders are on the ZVM). Not to mention the music I transferred using Winamp isn't even showing up in Windows Media Player. I think I need a different program altogether.

    I have got a new Creative Zen Vision W and getting the same problem....when i attach to the tv then i am able to hear the audio content and the video does not show.Are we missing something ? or is it a problem with the player. Also the software provided with the Zen converts small .vob files to .wmv when ever the size is large it gives an error 'conversion?unsucessful'.Any body facing similar problems please help.

  • Zen Vision:M files disappe

    Greetings:
    I recently uploaded some videos to my Zen Vision:M. They all appeared on my Zen for awhile, but the last time I went to look at them all but disappeared. I plugged my Zen into the computer and used Media Explorer to browse to the video folder. Sure enough, they were all there. I browsed to a couple other folders and came back to the Video folder(s) (there are two) and...there was only one video there. The one that I could still see on my Zen. I deleted all the videos that were missing, and reuploaded them using Windows Media Player 0. I also used Creative Video Converter to add a couple more. Once again, all but the same video appeared, and once again sometimes I could see them on the computer, and sometimes I couldn't.
    Any suggestions? This makes no sense.

    I think I found the problem - since there are two video folders I deleted all the videos once I was able to see them and removed one of the video folders. This has cleared up my problem. I don't know why I had two video folders in the first place.

  • Zen Vision M & Creative Organise

    I updated my Zen Touch to a Zen Vision M last summer and successfully transferred my tracks (sort of) but I am having problems with the new, updated Creative Organiser?5.
    In the previous version I was using, I could manipulate the information on my Zen DIRECTLY, "seeing" the device and the information in exactly the same way as if it were in my computer library and I was able to alter a?WHOLE?album at a time of information eg I had a double album that automatically ripped with the artist's name spelt slightly differently for each disc, thereby creating a whole?DIFFERENT album!?to put it right, I would highlight all of the tracks of one album and change one entry of the artist's name and they would all change.
    In the current version of organiser, I can change the Album Artist, but only one track at a time and as I have made each audio book appear as ONE ALBUM (by laboriously renumbering all the tracks sequentially from disc to disc?as I ripped them - no laughing matter I can assure you!) to change 400 tracks individually isn't something I want to contemplate!
    Now with this version, although I can SEE the information on the Zen, I am not able to change anything!
    Indeed, Creative Organiser 5 appears to have?many less columns than previous versions and I have noticed some flaws in some of my old recordings of?audiobooks and would like to correct it, but cant as the columns are no longer there to change!? EG Album Artist, Contributing Artist (where I would put for example J K Rowling, Stephen Fry) But now, they only have Album Artist!
    Also, GENRE!!!!!!
    !!! What has happened to this very useful function?!? Again, in the old version of?Organiser I would highlight and change a whole album to show the same entry, but not only can I NOT seem to VIEW by genre, I cannot see how to alter those that I created in the old version.
    I have looked in the Creative Help, but it keeps talking about editing items in the Music Library, NOT on the MP3 player.
    If it is not possible to re-create the old functions in the new Creative Organiser 5, does anyone have any suggestions of other Creative-compatible programs I could try? Some time ago I was recommended to MediaMonkey, which I quite liked and indeed, in fact previously I used Microsoft Media Player, which I PREFERRED to Creative Organiser, but neither of those programmes recognise the Zen Vision M!
    Any advice, help and general wisdom would be appreciated!!

    Well if you are running the same version, the only other possibilities I could think off that might be causing problems are :A)? Bad registry EntriesB) Possibly Bad DLL'sMediasource uses MicrosoftJet/MDAC libraries for maintaining the backend database. Its possible that one of the microsoft MDAC files is bad, corrupt, or the wrong version causing the playlist database inside mediasource to misbehave. You can go to Microsoft site and try downloading and running their MDAC checker utility.http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/i...splayLang%3den?(if the above link doesn't work, go to http://download.microsoft.com and search for "mdac checker" and it will show up on the list)?Download and run the checker, and see if it finds any problems with your MDAC installation.My system is running Windows XP SP2 and has MDAC 2.8 SP installed.
    The file revisions for most all the MDAC files show as 2.8.7 on my system. At this point am just guessing, but the above is something to try to see if we can figure out what is different between your system and mine.

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