Zen Vision:M hard drive funct

Zen Vision:M is very interesting in its?variety of features. My questions concern its storage/hard dri've?function. . Can I upload photos directly from my camera to Zen Vision:M?2. Can I store data files (i.e. excel, word, powerpoint) in to the Zen's?hard dri've?

". should be able to, using the CF adapter thingie, I think"
That is on the full sized Vision, not the Vision M.
http://us.creative.com/products/prod...=&product=2985

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Any Softwares for copying from Zen Vision to Hard Dri

hey! Do u know if there are any free softwares that would allow me to copy the staff i have on my zen vision back to my computer? (i just had a format and lost everything!)

Hi,
Well Media Source will handle media files (free from Creatives site). Rgegarding data and if you have a USB 2.0 port you can just use XP's Windows Explorer to access the media and data folders.
Hope this helps,
John

Creative Zen Touch 40 Hard Drive Failure Confir

I just recieved a zen touch 40gb a week ago. Worked great for a week (had 2000 songs on it) then it seemed to only transfer songs in groups of 50 or so, then 20, then 0 and now not at all. It still plays them just fine. Last night I was reloading all drivers updating everything etc, thinking I had a driver conflict. Then I heard what sounded like a low level beep coming from the player. I tinkered a little, and the beep is more of a clicking that follows any hard dri've access (after the spinning stops) I can reproduce it 90 percent of the time when I skip a song, press random, or turn the player off.
I am going to return the player and trade it out, but just wanted some confirmation from one of the more knowledgible people around here that this is probably a dri've issue. I searched the forum and it sounds like it when compared to other dri've issues..
Also for those who li've on this board, how common do you think it is to have a dri've failure in one of these players. I know on this board there the density of problems would be higher relati've to satisfaction due to satisfied people don't tend to complain.
Also would this explain the transfer problems which seemed to work well at first (My thought is the player stops transfering when writing causing the error) I got the player as a gift so I don't have an option to trade to a different model, and am thus stuck with the Zen Touch 40.
Message Edited by corprolite on 09-2-2005 02:47 PM
Message Edited by corprolite on 09-2-2005 03:57 PM

corprolite wrote:
I am going to return the player and trade it out, but just wanted some confirmation from one of the more knowledgible people around here that this is probably a dri've issue. I searched the forum and it sounds like it when compared to other dri've issues..
I don't think anyone can give you a 00% guarantee, but if you're hearing repeated retries (clicking) followed by some sort of copy failure the dri've does sound like a very likely cause.
Also for those who li've on this board, how common do you think it is to have a dri've failure in one of these players. I know on this board there the density of problems would be higher relati've to satisfaction due to satisfied people don't tend to complain.
Not common.
Also would this explain the transfer problems
For sure. If you have a broken dri've it would cause transfer problems. Bear in mind that MP3 players with hard dri'ves are quite sensiti've devices.

Question about Zen Micro's Hard Drive (not negati

My brother keeps telling me that the Zen Micro does not have a real hard dri've or anything like his Ipod, which I highly debate because I know it's not true. Can anyone tell me what really is inside the Micro so that I can make him believe me? I know that it's something from Seagate.Message Edited by rmccabe96 on 06-06-2005 2:9 AM

The Micro and all the current 4, 5 and 6 gig players (including iPOD mini use " hard dri'ves.
These are about the same dri'ves as used in CF type micro-dri'ves.
The larger players Current 0 Gig and up use the smaller lap top sized dri'ves.
I think they are .8" diameter disks.

Replacing zen micro's hard drive with compact fl

I dropped my zen micro the other day and the hard dri've is dead
And I m li've outside the us and the warranty expired
So its dead and buried and I was going to get a new anyway
But while it sits there I dissembled the zen micro
And found that the hard dri've is a Seagate st 5gb
And the interface is compact flash
And here?s a crazy though can I put a memory card compact flash
Say GB or 52 MB
Could it work? And reload the firmware from pc?
Waiting for your reply guys
Please help if this works it will be very cool

I ordered a dead unit off eBay, on a whim. Just like the description said, the HDD was bad, but hey thats a minor detail right? For me, the CF card swapped in fine, originally I was using a little 6mb until this one came in the mail (gb Kingston.) Sadly, neither have worked. I can format the disk within recovery mode, but I cant connect to my computer to upgrade the firmware. Also, I cannot load the original firmware, so essentially the player is bricked. This is a bit of a stretch, but could someone extract the firmware this way?) Back up all of your music2) Reboot into Recovery Mode3) Format the dri've4) Choose reload firmware5) Update firmware through Windows6) Using the "Take apart a Zen Micro" guide, remove the microdri've or CF card you are using for the Zen Micro HDD7) Using a standard multi-card or CF card reader, insert the card extracted in step six8) Copy the contents of the CF card in its entirety, and send to a zip or rar.9) Upload the zip using a free file-sharing website, such as Megaupload0) Tell us all about it!
Could someone do that for me? I'll make you cookies The reason I'm looking for the extracted firmware is I believe that the player will recognize whatever is on the card, regardless of how it got there. Since I cannot interface with my device using USB, this looks like my only option. Unless someone else knows of a site or file that has an extracted firmware that came from the .exe, or knows how to do that without plugging in a player?~ScabiesAdmins, let me know if I'm upsetting the feds. And if not, then let me know if the card has a proprietary file allocation system?****EDIT****Indeed, the CF card has been formatted to some Creative File System (not real name,) therefore I cant get into it. BUT I did manage to get the firmware to update, and the player is now clickin along just fine!IF YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH FIRMWARE, ALWAYS TRY MORE THAN ONE COMPUTER.Now you know...
Message Edited by Scabies on 08-3-2006 2:0 PM

Vision M hard drive

Hello,
Can anyone recommend the type of hd I should use in my vision m. It has a Hitachi model # htc426030g5ce00, 30 gb in it now but I think it's dead. It has malfunctioned before and I'd? pull it out of the unit give it a few whacks on a corner and it would start to work again. I did?this at least 3 time and it would work for a couple of months each time and then start to hang up again. Well it didn't work this time, I think its gone. I would like to get repair my unit if?reasonably possible?otherwise I guess I'll buy a new?one altogether, it's 2 and /2 years old. Any?leads on hd models that would work and where to buy then will be appreciated? My freind said he has a toshiba hd in his machine, are they better than hitachi, do they last longer?

You can ask this seller questions & they sell & repair the player also http://www.thegadgetdr.com/Creative-...Parts-s/25.htm

Zen Vision:M Hard disk click

one more question: Is it normal to hear a barely audible hard disk click while switching tracks/videos :smileyindifferent:
the last time I heard this "barely audible hard disk click" was when the iPOD started acting crazy...eventually she died hard disk corrupt/failure
the switch to ZVM is gr8 and love this piece...it's only 3 days old!!!
so is this normal and I have nothing to worry abt? or do I need to run back and return it b4 she gives way :robotindifferent:

its normal you guys its the head thats switching places. if its a faint click or once in a while a loud click its when your looking at pictures , zooming, also videos seeking and yah. when you turn the player on after 6 hours youl here th hard dri've boot up

What type of hard drive do I need for a Creative Zen Vision

Hey everybody.
I have a Creative Zen Vision:M, and unfortunately after dropping it, the hard drive has decided to pack up!
I have decied to replace the hard dri've, but wondered which hard dri'ves are compatible with the Zen Vision:M? I know the hard drive is a .8" drive, but that's all I know what to look for so far...
Any help would be much appreciated.

Hi,
It uses a standard 2.5" HDD. You can find them around in any good computer shop. You can use larger (capacity) as well. If you wish to find exactly the same one please try:
(a) Open Device Manager,
(b) Expand Disk drives item
You can see brand and model of the current HDD on your computer. If it failed already, pull it out and check.
Regards.
BH
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Windows 7 64 bit driver for the Zen Vision M?

- Where EXACTLY can I find the Windows 7 64-bit driver for the Zen Vision M? My new computer came with it installed in Windows Media Player 2, but the driver became corrupt. I can't seem to find that driver on the Creative or Microsoft download websites. Please Help!

The driver is nati've to Windows. Creative does not write the MTP driver. I would suggest re-install WMP2 or contact Microsoft for advice if it is corrupt. As for software to use the player on a 64 Win 7system? there is nothing for the Vision M. You may want to read this page? http://support.creative.com/KB/showarticle.aspx?sid=605&h=3

Zen Vision: M - MTP device driver prob

Hey there, I have just recently encountered a problem with using my zen on my computer.
My system is hot stuff so its not gonna be the problem.
Basically I plug it in and get "MTP Device Found"
then I am prompted to install MTP drivers through windows update - Problem, file from the installation was not found after it checks to find drivers for me.
Windows media doesnt recognize the device as MTP (this is WM im using) nor does Zen vision: m media explorer.
Is there a driver package I can download that will let windows know what on earth to install to recognize this MTP device? I have tried all the downloads under the vision: m downloads section, none do a thing to help. I've reinstalled, deleted old registries and copied ones across from a computer that works with it. WTH lol
Any help apreciated: This is Windows XP

MTP Drivers are actually user space drivers ( a new Microsoft idea/mistake)? If the Windows Driver Foundation service isn't running, its not going to recognize the device or load the driver. It should be set to "automatically" start up.
If its stopped there is a problem of some kind, either it has been set to not startup on boot or there was a failure of some kind at boot and you should check the event logs in eventvwr to see what kind of failure there was.
If the service was set to start at boot and did not, then there should be an error message in eventvwr that will give you an idea of why.

Successful Zen Xtra Hard Drive Upgra

Hello Zen Community--
I just wanted to report a success with upgrading the hard drive on my Zen Xtra from 40GB to 00GB.
I was running out of space and originally gave some thought to purchasing a used Zen Xtra 60GB unit as a replacement, but in doing research found out that many people had upgraded their own Xtras with larger-capacity hard dri'ves.
The original dri've that came with my unit was a Fujitsu MHT2040AT and I replaced it with a brand new Fujitsu MHU200AT 00GB hard dri've I got on eBay pretty cheap ($55 including shipping). I might even be able to sell the old 40GB hard dri've on Craigslist to recoup ten or fifteen bucks.
The instructions I used were at the following sites:
http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/gener...tras-hard.html
http://home.mchsi.com/~sallad/zen/tutorial.html
Of course, you do this at your own risk, I make no warranties, you void the warranty on your Zen, etc., etc., etc. You might want to google it yourself.
But I wanted to pass along that I was able to do it successfully--with no problems whatsoever--and I'm very happy with the results. It was quite easy. I encourage anyone who needs more room on their Zen Xtra to give it some thought. (If you don't want to do it yourself, there are people on eBay who will sell you already-upgraded units or will do the upgrade for you.)
As I currently have no need for video, this extends the life of my Xtra quite a bit.
Best of luck to anyone who decides to gives it a shot.Message Edited by Lawrence on 03-29-2008 0:29 PM

Actually, I see your problem is resolved in the other thread, so I'll close this one.
The other thread -> http://forums.creative.com/creativel....id=2257#M2257
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Running out of hard drive!!.....Need to back-up vision files!!

Hi there friends...
Ok, I have imported a huge amount of vision which has left me a little skinny in the hard drive department. I understand that I need HD to render/export so...
What is the best way to back up my vision files to an external drive??
Regards,
Chris

What is the best way to back up my vision files to an external drive??
First, make sure your external drive is formatted Mac OS Extended. Then just drag and drop files from one drive to the other.

Trying to find a compatible hard drive for a zen touch. Anyo

Hey guys.
I'm trying to save some dats from my hard dri've, and have managed to take the hard drive apart, so that I can take out the circular disc with the data on.
The dri've is a Hitachi travelstar with model code: HTC424040F9AT00, and it's a 40gb drive. Does it have to be this exact model in order for me to put the disc into a working version of this drive, to get the data off? Can it be any travelstar?
Either way, does anybody know where I could get one of these?
Any help would be much appreciated?

I think most computer guys would say you're SOL at this point, but as I said, continue and see what happens. When I was doing research on the old Dell 20 gig Jukebox I had here, you could install up to a 40 gig hard dri've into a 20 gig unit and the unit would recognize the additional storage, but the one Hitachi guy I talked to didn't know if the unit would recognize a 60 gig HD. So from that I gathered that you could put your disc into a 20 gig unit, and it should read it.
Do a search on 'computer clean room' though, and I think your info on that disc is already bad. HD manufacturers take great pains to create clean rooms so that disc don't get dust on them, but surprise us and prove them wrong..

NOT so happy CONCLUSION after all -- Installation of my ZEN Vision M (30 G

Sunday 2/3/06
Let's see, I had a problem with losing my AUDIO. Finally, I had to do a full re-install on my S.B. Audigy 2zs. I even moved it to a different PCI connector on the MB. After a full re-installation... sweet sound again.
As to the Zen itself, I keep having problems.... I am trying to update all the applications (C MediaSourde and C Media explorer) and even there I am finding problems.
When I download the upgrade file to my PC ([color="#ff3300">CMS5_PCAPP_LB_5_0_38.exe), and?try opening it, it HANGS... that's it... so I have not been able to upgrade it. And if I don't upgrade it, then I will have the same erratic behavior will all these applications. They work sometimes and sometimes they don't.
If I really force the issue, opent the explorer and the MediaSource, where I have my "library" of songs... and WHEN the ZEN is recognized by everyone (This is ramdon condition, sometimes yes, many times no), I am able to drag and drop some songs from my "library"?to the ZEN.... but I?still don't have a clear path to do this consistently... ?
Tuesday report 2/26/06:?
[color="#ff0000"](I?don't want anybody to get the ideal all is well now... I thought it was... Yesterday, but not today)
Today I?was able to?to Rip a couple of CDs and "transfer" them to the ZEN. Some of the songs?have noises?though... I don't know what causes that. But the applications are still buggy, they don't work consistently all the time. I just "sense" something is not right with my PC.
[color="#ff0000"]No only that... This installation knocked off my Audio!... even though I have a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2zs platinum! (Audio Card)... So I have NO SOUND right now?and therefore I can not use WMP-0 to rip cd's because it tells me I have not audio and I am not in the mood to deal the WMP now. So I had to use the Creative MediaSource 5, to do the ripping and the synchronizing. It did the job ok, except for the noise...
I tried everything to re-install my Audio. Tried the latest dri've...Nothing. Went back to my old one (before this installation) and it DID NOT work either!? Amazing how complicated this has become....
Monday report 2/25/06: I did not do much on the Zen today. But I did notice the WPM 0, still goes crazy (crashed) when trying to find the Zen. The WMP0 crashed today once. Also, there seem to be some conflict among certain programs... It almost seems as if more than one applications is biding for the Zen when they see it. (i.e. if the WMP is open and try opening the Creative Explorer app... it will not open... but only until I close the WMP...then the apps springs up just like that. That's it. - Good night.
I SO, IT seems like I am not out of the woods yet... I wonder if I ever will.
?
Quick Tips (I see people asking the same questions)
If your ZEN seems "dead" then you need to RESET it. How? insert a "clip" (or other sharp tool. Clip works best) in the hole for RESET, located at the bottom of the ZEN (by the "dongle" connector)<?
Connect your ZEN to a "USB-PORT" (not to a "hub")?A USB-PORT is located on your computer (the box). A "Hub" is a little box connected to one USB-PORTS and it "splits" this port into several USB-Connectors... ideally useful for "devices" that do not required lost of information or current (i.e. mouse, drawing table, keyboard, etc). Devices that required a continuous or heavy amounts of information (i.e. External Hard Dri'ves, Camcorders, Webcams sometimes, required an individual USB-PORT)<?Two things here:?- This link is for the original messagehttp://forums.creative.com/creativel...essage.id=7293?[size="+2"][color="#ff0000"]2- Happy Conclusion installing the ZEN Vision M (30 Gig)(I am writing this for several reasons. Mainly, because it was a difficult installation and I wanted to summarize the 200 or 300 steps/actions I did that led me to solve the problem successfully. I always do this when I have a difficult installation and then I save it for the next time I need it (i.e. changing computers). I certainly don?t want to waste all that effort. One thing I learned about ?technology? is hard to learn it but it can be forgotten so easily, if you don?t take notes.)
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[size="+2"][color="#ff3300">What was causing the problem?
Two things:
First, problems with Windows and the computer itself.
Second, the Creative applications were horrible at first, they would not open right away and when they did? sometimes 5 or 0 seconds later? they would crash just by clicking on something? and so Windows kept giving me those Error boxes and I kept sending them to Microsoft?(I must have sent at least 00 if not more!) I was also having problems with my graphics, every time an application would crash, then all kind of weird graphics would take place when dragging things around. I also had problems at one time with my Anti-virus/fire-wall Icon going dark after several re-boots, so I had to kick it to get it working?. Oh well, I just want you to get a flavor for how bad things were yesterday.
When I first installed the software, nothing worked!... My computer was noticeably SLOWER and SLUGHISH? Actually I was worry about my computer itself because I have never seen it this bad!... I thought a virus the size of an elephant had gotten into the pc somehow, no kidding so I ran the anti-virus, anti-spy, just to make sure. Sometimes if you firewall is down, you can get viruses in an instant!... I hope you people know this by now. And if the firewall fails and viruses get in, is just at moments like these? when you are trying to get things to work and downloading stuff from the Internet and so on.
The computer was just sloooowww? sluggish?.. and crashy (new word?)?.
I must have rebooted my system from 40 to 50 times, and I am not exaggerating. At some point I even had trouble turning off the PC. There were like three time where it would just sit there in ?limbo? (hung/crashed), so I had to actually switch the?PC OFF on the back of the box, the only way to turn it off? And of course, when you do that, you can be sure you will have all kinds of interesting things when you try to boot up again! (like all kinds of funny displays on my screen, or Windows giving me the ?black screen and white text? asking me to choose a way to boot up, like ?boot up normally? or ?boot up using the last configuration that worked,? (I did this like?7 times all together).
[size="+2"][color="#ff3300">So how did?everything go?from ?so bad? to ?so wonderful?? I don?t really know exactly!
But I suspect three things happened:
- Windows sent me a couple of upgrades (I get them automatically)? I have NO IDEA what they were, but whatever they were, helped!
?2 - As I read and read, things began to come back to my brain. Especially a post reply that gave me the hint (Reformatting the dri've in the Zen) would finally let me ?transfer? my stuff to the Zen
?3 - An lastly, after I have ?cleaned, reformatted the dri've, got rid off the ?firmware? (not a good thing to do), Then I could not make Windows see the ZEN no matter what I did!? I did what worked before (connecting and disconnecting the USB cable from the white adapter (dungle?) connected to the ZEN). Usually when you do this, Windows being a ?plug and play? OS, it usually ?sees? when a new ?device? is plugged in one of the USB ports, or disconnected from a port, as well. In other words it ?recognizes? the device (connectivity) and if the software and driver are already install, the device should come ali've and work! That is the reason you always install the software and drivers first, and usually re-boot the system once, so that when you connect the ?device? (ZEN), it should work!
[size="+2"][color="#ff3300">Let me recap I what happened:
?- I installed the s/w and as I already said, it was horrible.
?2- The Windows updates, somehow were helping a little bit.
?3- I also downloaded the latest updates from Creative.com (downloads/upgrades). I downloaded the ?firmware? (the ?upgrade,? which is the OS=Operating System for the ZEN. Just like ?Windows? is to the PC) and other ?patches? for?the ?creative media source 5? and ?Zencast organizer? (3 updates). I am sure this upgrades helped some, as well.
?4- After trying so many times, I was finally able to open the ?Zen Media Explorer? (Icon looks like a picture of the Zen). When this opens, it shows you everything inside the Zen just like in the ?explorer? (nice). That meant I had connectivity! (good).
?5- Since I had ?connectivity? (access) to the ZEN, My next attempt was to ?transfer? some files down to the ZEN? but this proved impossible!... Somehow, at some?point, by accident (I?did not even notice it)? I was able to transfer ONE song to the ZEN, which gave me hope. After all, if you can do it once, you should be able to do it again. BUT, I couldn?t
?6- Then a nice lady?who responded to my first post, told me she had basically the same problems and the solution was to ?Clean and re-format? the ?Disk dri've?in the ZEN. She said that once she?did that, everything would sort of fall into place? and she was right!
?7- I unplugged the ZEN from the PC and read somewhere how ?to clean, reformat, upgrade or replace the ?firmware,? Not sure still, but it'ss something like ?resetting (with a clip) the Zen and holding the ?power? slide in the ON position? something like that, and that brings a special screen with 4 choices:
Clean<
Reformat dri've (erases everything!), <
Replace firmware (careful here!), <
Reboot. <
Then it'ss pretty easy?to do a lot of ?damage? in a few seconds!... ([color="#ff3300">careful here if you are not used to the sensitivity of the "touch-pad")In my case I did not care since I had not put anything there yet. I erased EVERYTHING!... (not a good thing). I should have been more careful and simply use option 2 (reformat the dri've). Chances are this would have been enough to transfer songs to the ZEN. But since I get crazy when doing stuff like this, I went ahead a cleaned everything.
?8- Then I realized I had erased the ?firmware. As you already know this is the ?heart? of the Zen. (like Windows to the PC). Finally I went to Creative.com/downloads and downloaded it (the full version). But if you remember in #3, I had also downloaded the ?firmware? upgrade as well. The reason this is significant, is, that when I finally recovered ?connectivity? to the ZEN, I? tried both files, but the one that ZEN accepted was the upgrade! (I found this interesting? since I would have thought the full version would have been the correct choice? see?... little things you learn.
?9- As I already gave you a hint in #8, once I had the ?firmware? ready to install, the system kept telling me it could NOT see the ZEN. I connected and disconnected the USB cable several times? rebooted the pc? this helps sometimes, but nothing!... FINALLY, I read somewhere, I should go to the ?device manager? and check what was going on.. ? EUREKA ? indeed I found the ZEN with a ?Yellow mark? on the side, which always means trouble. Basically, I used the ?uninstall? option (based of the principle that simply ?un-installing and installing back something? sometimes this works. In other words, the ZEN was ?stucked. So when I ?removed? It from the ?Device Manager? list (I don?t recall if I rebooted here? but it never hurts!), then all of the sudden? a little icon in Windows (on the small tray=bottom right corner (with the clock and Date),? acknowledged?a new deviced had been connected to Windows. (connectivity back again! Yeahhh).
?0- Now that had ?connectivity? (Big step), I could try installing the ?firmware. And as I already explained, the ?upgrade? was the one that ZEN took. As soon as you clicked on the file, a box opened and asked if you wanted to install the ?firmware. I said yes and voila!... The Zen started accepting it's and when it ended, just like a PC, the ZEN rebooted itself and I was able to see the familiar interface (the same folders as before) but not contents at all? empty!
?- At this?point?I opened the ?Creative Media Source organizer,? went to my ?playlist? and from there, just click and drag some songs and dropped them on top of the Zen Icon (just like dropping files in a folder). And yes, the files were finally ?transferred? to the ZEN. Unplugged the USB cable from the Zen (or the Zen does not play anything). The songs were there and I was FINALLY able to listen to them from the ZEN!... Wonderful. Oh yes, using the same technique (drag and drop), I put a wmv video and was able to watch it as well... Now I know why people rave about the little screen... nice!
?2- In the mean time, without noticing? Just like the nice lady?from the post said, everything seemed to have fallen into place!
?In Summary: The applications ( the creative programs=icons)?were opening normally and quickly now, and many of the errors I got before when clicking on certain things, disappeared. I am sure I will still find some problems here and there, but basically the thing works now the way it is supposed to.
?Just a matter of clicking, dragging and dropping items?into the Zen?.yes, that simple!
?Good luck!
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Zen Vision M 30gb, used to be able to download music from I tunes, can't now, need he

I had another computer with I tunes loaded, also used Zen vision M on it along with I Pod, new computer has both products downloaded on it, but for some reason it wont recognize the Zen or let me download music from the i tunes library like i used to. also this computer uses windows vista. Can anyone help

So, you need an older version of the iOS app, because the current version no longer works on your iPod touch.
If you do regular backups of your hard drive (as you should), such as by using Apple's built-in Time Machine (if you use a Mac), you may find the older version of the app in the backup archive, and restore it (replacing the newer version). They are stored in the iTunes Media folder, in the Mobile Applications sub-folder. You should then be able to sync the older version to your iPod touch.
I can't think of any other way to get it back...
NOTE: An 2nd gen iPod touch can run up to iOS 4.2.1. If your iPod touch is running something earlier, and that is why the app no longer works, you can also consider updating the iPod's iOS.
I use an even older iPhone (original). I avoid this potential problem by aways updating its apps on the iPhone, not in iTunes on the computer. When I do it on the iPhone, it will not download a newer version of an app that won't run on my old iPhone.

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