ZEN Vision M: Without Charger ...Why

I?m searching the best mp3 player and, when finally i find it... Does not include a fast charger (for wall socket). What are you (Creative labs) thinking ?Do you think, that i have all the time for expecting for a slow charge by USB port ??Why, do you makes it difficult for customersDo you think, i have?nt enough money for pay it ??What?s happening ?

When you run your Zen Vision: M off any charger and use it while its plugged in it doesnt take any power from the battery, it uses power from your plug that is transfered through the adapter. Using your Zen Vision:M while charging does slow down the charging process a little bit, but not by much. I hope this explanation has solved your question.

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Is it possible to charge Zen Vision:M without drivers install

Ok, here's the deal.. I bought my Vision:M, installed the software on my home computer, charged the player up, put my songs on.. Everything went fine. I had to go out of town, so I brought my laptop, thinking I'd use it to recharge my player. However, when I tried to install the software, I found out that it's not compatible with anything other than Windows XP (I have windows 2000 professional on my laptop) So, I tried just plugging my player into the USB port on the laptop anyway. The player turned on, and the lightning bolt came on over the battery. Hooray! But, it never did actually charge. Left it plugged in overnight (about 6 hours) and in the morning it had the same amount of charge as when I had first plugged it in. So, today I visited a couple electronics stores to try to find a car charger.. no luck. Nobody had a charger made by creative labs, and the "uni'versals" I tried didn't work.
I bought and tried two. Both caused the player to turn on when plugged in, but neither actually charged it (the lightning bolt never even came on over the batttery pic) I can't seem to find drivers anywhere for this that will work with Windows 2000. Found a 39 meg file on this site here (the player organizer, I think) but even that wouldn't install, because it said it failed to detect a supported product (my zen was plugged in, but now has no battery at all left) So, sorry to ramble so much... Can anyone help Is there any way for me to charge this thing I'm gonna have a LONG dri've home (400 miles) and don't want to do that without my tunes. Thanks in advance!

I use this one: Griffin Technology iTrip Auto Uni'versal Plus (7259TRIPUNP)http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Griffin-Technology-iTrip-Auto-Uni'versal-Plus-7259TRIPUNP/sem/rpsm/oid/68474/catOid/-2927/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do?Its an FM transmiitter and if you take along the sync adapter and your USB cable you can plug it in to the Itrip and the Zen Vision M will charge as your are listening to it.

Zen Vision:M power charger/mains supp

Hi all.
Just bought this off Ebay so that I can charge my ZVM in less time than the USB lead takes. I believed when I bought it that it was also a power supply, as in, enabled the ZVM to run off the mains and so not use up the battery. Am I wrong here? And if so, what should I be looking for for the latter?
Thx to anyone who can help.
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When you run your Zen Vision: M off any charger and use it while its plugged in it doesnt take any power from the battery, it uses power from your plug that is transfered through the adapter. Using your Zen Vision:M while charging does slow down the charging process a little bit, but not by much. I hope this explanation has solved your question.

Zen Vision:M doesnt charge, doesnt st

So, today I went to go turn on my zen vision m, and only the blue led at the top would flash.
So I figured I would plug it into my computer, and see if it would charge.
The blue led blinks, but I get no lightning bolt on the screen, no docked window, the screen stays black.
Ive tried resetting it, I've tried 2 computers, I have no AC adapter, my usb ports work.
Is my battery dead?Message Edited by PaulFehr on 08-8-200706:0 AM
EDIT: after half an hour of charging, it turned on.
Could this be because maybe the battery was so dead even with power it couldnt turn on?Message Edited by PaulFehr on 08-8-200706:09 AM
EDIT: another problem, after about 20 minutes of charging, I unplugged it, and when I plugged it back into the computer (30 seconds after unplugging it) now it doesnt go to dock, I get the battery icon with the lightning bolt.
Should I wait until its charged more, and then will it dock?Message Edited by PaulFehr on 08-8-200706:4 AM
Probably last EDIT:
OK, so now its working fine, and I hope I never run into these problems again.Message Edited by PaulFehr on 08-8-200706:34 AM

It took my Vision:M nearly a day to charge enough so that it even appeared to be charging... I was so worried but everything was fine, it needed time. I hope that's the only thing wrong. Does the battery icon have an overlay of a plug on it's If so, that sounds exactly like my problem.
Just keep charging it.

Zen Vision M 30gb Won't charge and not being recognized on any comput

Can you give me some pointers. The charge went completely depleted and no computer recognizes it
when I plug in by usb. Any suggestions?

Hello Dsgrov,
Welcome to Creative forums!
You can get a lot of results if you search "Zen Vision M not charging" on the search box.
Here's one, you might want to check this thread.

Zen Vision:M 30GB won't power down; any ide

I've had a 30GB Zen Vision M for a couple of months now! Awesome player, went through the usual round of recognition problems, but it's been working fine of late. My problem is, it won't power down now. When I try to power down, the unit says it's powering down, the dispaly goes black except for the battery icon. And it stops there. The blue backlight on the menu buttons stays on, the battery icon stays on, and eventually it turns off after 5 minutes because of being idle. Not a terrible problem I know, but a real niusance. I am running the most current firmware (have been for a while). I've tried resetting and clean-up. No change. I'm afraid of trying to reinstall the firmware, in case I have the same problem that many others are having, and go from a good player with a power issue, to a player that does nothing. I can't see it being the power switch itself, since it powers up fine, and tries to power down. Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated. birder

Hello Dsgrov,
Welcome to Creative forums!
You can get a lot of results if you search "Zen Vision M not charging" on the search box.
Here's one, you might want to check this thread.

HERES HOW TO SOLVE THE ZEN VISION M CHARGING PROBLEM - WITHOUT SPENDING MORE CA

Hi all,
this advice is targeted at people charging with a laptop, and the dam player wont charge
the problem is that (with xp anyway) that the usb ports are programed for the power to be killed of when a device is not connected to the ports with sufficient charge to be recognized. heres how to fix this
go to control panel/system/hardware/device manager
then scroll and find uni'versal serial bus controllers (the flashy name for USBs) it was right down the bottom for me
open it up and you we see 2 or more "USB root hubs" this is the controller of the USB ports - right click on the first one and select its properties
this is where it may differ for some but - either under the "power" or "power management" tab untick the box which allows the computer to cut the power to the usb
now repeat this for the remaining "USB root hubs" and bobs your uncle
just plub in the vision then after a short moment try turning it on or it might load automatic
hope this cures alot of rag - it cured mine
ps - i would recommend particularly with a laptop to go back and tick the power boxs on the usb root hub properties so, when you go to use a laptop as one, the battery last longer
cheers

I thought this post was the answer to my prayers after struggling with my new Zen M all night, wondering why it won't charge!
still though, I plug it into usb, only the blue light flashes... then SOMETIMES after 20 minutes or so, the battery indicator will come on, in most dead battery icon, with lighting bolt / charging symbol. Then SOMETIMES after another 5-0 minutes, it'll boot and start playing some demo song on there I guess. But then after another 2-3 minutes (times are all estimates btw), it seems to shut down, and goes back to just the blinking blue light, and I can't manually boot it or anything!
Im ready to send it back, and NOT get another one! For 3 bucks cost, they couldn't include a simple receptacle plug connected to a wire, connected to a transformer, connected to an electrical outlet plug (A $3 CHARGER!!)? Ugh.
any more help, ideas, suggestions, or prognosis, its much appreciated
Chris

Why, when i try to synchronise my pc library with my Zen Vision M does it not update??? Pleae He

Hi,
I have a Zen Vision M 20g and i've been trying (in vain) to synchronise from my PC library which i've updated and cleaned up - to my Zen.
Everytime i've done this (about 5 times now) it doesn't update. I've still got Artist files named 0, 02, 03 when i've already changed the tag information in the pc library.
I'm very very confused! Please help me. I've tried to find other discussions on this matter without much joy!
Sorry, if this is a very stupid question btw!
Thanks
Ladyhall
ps.
In fact, if anyone can tell me where to find detailed information on synchronising your Vision M and your pc i'll happily read the manual! cheers. xMessage Edited by ladyhall on 05-03-2006 09:4 AM

I am having the same massi've problem. I have read all of the threads and can't find anything that actually tells what me to do. I change the tag in my PC library and if I sync again, it just creates a new file and keeps the old one. I am so frustrated! Someone please help!!!! Did they really make the program so that it can not recognize it is the same file and just update it's? If so, why can't they fix it, it seems like lots of people are experiencing this problem. To manually delete the files? one by one from the player is a real pain. Someone PLEASE PLEASE help!?Thanks!?

HELP ! Need help with the MyZenChecker. (Zen Vision:M isn't charging for first ti

I bought a Zen Vision : M some days ago. It won't charge. I?have WinXP,Service Pack and WMP0. I got GOOD on everything on MyZenChecker. I use the USB at the back. I've also tried with a USB charger which I put into the wall, but that didn't work either. I tried fix2, but I didn't get everything on how to get it work.
I download it. Double click the .bat file. It comes a black route. It's written that it was succesful. Then after that what should I do in details, please ?
I tried to restart the computer right after getting successful on the .bat file with the Zen connected. Nothing happens after I turn it on again. No blue light or anything. The computer can't detect it. Am i supposed to connect the Zen after restart ? Should it come a blue light right after restart or should I let charge for 5+ hours without the blue light and then connect it again to get blue light.
Please tell me what to do in details step by step. Thx
Message Edited by perry_09 on 07-29-200706:56 AM

you shd connect it and reboot your PC. the myzenusb.bat is to amend your open up your USB permission. no blue LED light flashing means its not charging. I suggest you exchange this with your retailer since you just bought it

Nexxtech USB Wall Charger compatible with Zen Vision

I was wondering if the?Nexxtech USB Wall Charger (http://http://www.circuitcity.com/ss...oductDetail.do) would work with the Zen Vision M. I'm going on a trip this week and need a cheap wall charger (less than $20)?that I can go to the store and get it (no online orders). Thanks,
Drake

hey thanks for the fast reply!
that sounds good. one more qs:
is there a cable available that allows to sync & charge directly from player to usb without using the little dongle attachment thingy. I find it ridiculous that Creative went with a propriety connection! I don't fancy lugging that around everywhere...
thanksMessage Edited by jayneemac on 0-2-200705:00 PM

Zen Vision M: Unable to charge. Nearly to give product back (forev

Hello,
I purchased a Zen Vision M two weeks ago. When I arri've at home I installed the software successfully and then connected the Zen Vision M to my USB poert on my laptop (Win XP Pro SP2) to charge it; no sign of life. No display activity and NO LED CHARGE ACTIVITY. I letf the ZVM an entire night to see if things changed, but no success. I've tried the following:
- Disable power saving on usb port: no sign of life
- Gave everyone permission on usb port: no sign of life
- Push reset button and the recharge: no sign of life
- Tried on a different PC: no sign of life
So I retuned to the shop and:
- We checked with a differnt cable and with a desktop on the shop: no sign of life.
I asked to change the ZVM with another one. Yesterday, after TWO WEEKS of delay (because the shop had to order since it was the last ZVM they had), I had the new ZVM. Result: NO SIGN OF LIFE once again.
Note that:
- my USB ports (of both laptop) works perfectly with other devices
- my usb ports have power: I have a USB PC Lamp, and a USB Optical Mouse and they works perfectly.
- I let the ZMV connected to the USB port always more than 8 hour. The Laptop power option was set to avoid hybernate or suspend status
- No application was running during charge
I tryed to find a phone tech support, but - despite the statement on the creative site - in italy there is no phone support, just via e-mail.
If the customer support will not able to resolve the problem I'll give my ZVM back (forever) and I will ask my money back.
My percption of the problem is that the ZVM have battery completed depleted and USB is not able to provide enough power to charge. But the fact that not even the LED id flashing let me with no clue.
I kindly ask the community if someone had the same problems, and if there are any suggestion that AT LEAST let my charge led flashing.
Sorry, for the long post, but I'm really upset with the whole situation.
Thank you in advance.
Riccardo

I am new to these forums. So bear with me. I am in the Oz outback.
In a possible answer to your problem IlRiccardo I purchased two Zen Vision M units this past week with the same problem. I returned the first unit and got my money back. I purchased a second unit from a different supplier in a another town. Same problem again The second time I did read the supplied booklets in more detail pouring over every word. I found what the symbols in the top right of the screen was suppose to mean. I did purchase units with the Creative supplied powerpack. I was able power the unit up on the external power pack.
Q. Do you have a symbol that looks like a plug with two prongs on it's
Q2. What is the version number of the installed firmware?
I had that symbol on the top right of the screen. I found through a small Product Information booklet that it was to indicate a fully charged battery and operating on external power. RUBBISH (to the charged battery) as it was a brand new unit. The firmware version installed in both ZENs was .30.xx (cannot remember the last two digits).
I checked the Creative FAQ pages at my daughter's place (in town where I purchased second unit) and found a page listing most of the same symptons as I was experiencing. The download page was talking about a version .50.xx. The link was for a downloadable version of .6.0.
Subsequently I did download the update file and installed it. Low and behold my ZEN Vision M now showed the symbol for a charging battery. The unit did charge up and is working on the battery. Firmware Version .6.0
Check with your supplier/shop where you purchased your ZEN to see if this action will void the warranty? My supplier is suggesting it has!!!!. I hope I don't have to go down the warranty path for any reason.
Hope this helps you and others.
I have post an almost similarly worded reply in another thread about "not charging" SO it is a firmware version issue in my view.

Creative Zen Vision M no longer charges with the wall char

I have had a zen vision M for about 5 months and have never had a problem with it til now. I was listening to it this morning and realised it needed charging so i plugged in the charger as well and all was fine. It seemed to charge for awhile and then it stopped and the charge went backwards. Now every time i plug in the wall charger (that came with the player when i bought it in July 2006) it just shows as being on AC power unless i hold it in a specific position. I have it plugged into my computer at the moment and it seems to be charging. the blue light is on and the battery is showing as charging.How do i know if its a problem with my charger or not - i tried my PSP charger as i had seen that in some posts on here and the same thing happened. I think its something internal. I don't want to send it anywhere as of course its out of warranty and i don't want to pay for anything.Anyone have any ideas. I read something about firmware fixing battery charging ability but then it wipes out FM recording - not that i use it that much but i still use it.Anyway im wondering if anyone has any ideas or if anyone else has had the same problem. I searched high and low but i could only find people with charging problems when they first bought the units.Any help would be appreciated as i like to listen to it at work and my work computer won't accept my player as im not an administrator so i can't install it etc. I need to be able to charge it either at home or at work so i can listen to it. Thanks for your time in advance, i really hope someone can help me as i love this groovy player and i just lectured my sister the other day on how much better than an ipod it is and now it goes and does this. Thanks again

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Creative Zen Vision M not fully charging

(Creative Zen Vision M not fully charging( Hi, I recently bought a refurbished ZVM that doesnt seem to charging properly. When I first got it, it hadnt been charged in quite some time so the battery was overdead. My PC couldnt detect it when I connected it via usb and it didnt even start charging at all. I then connected it to a wall charger and it finally started charging. The strange thing is it never fully charges. I've charged it twice now, both times for at least about 2 hours, and the battery doesnt go more than 50%. And when I connect it to my PC to transfer songs, instead of resuming its charge, my battery runs out. Is this a case of a faulty battery? I li've in Australia and I bought it from the USA. I would prefer not to go through the trouble of returning it if I could. Anything I should do like leaving it to charge for an even longer time? Also one more thing I should mention. When I remove the wall charger and plug it back in, it takes the ZVM sometime to detect it, about 30 minutes or so, and start charging again. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Will my old wall charger for Zen Vision:M will work with the (New) Z

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sebastiankf,
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