Zen Vision or new ip

I'm thinking about getting a new mp3 player and I'm trying to choose between a Zen player or a new ipod classic 80GB. It looks like the closest comparable Zen is the Zen Vision:M 30 GB (there's also a 60GB, but I can't find any new ones in stock). The vision:M retails for about $250 and so does the new ipod classic. The vision:M looks like it's almost 2 years old, it has less than half the memory of the new ipod, and its the same price. There's also the Vision:W 60GB which retails for about $366. It looks like it has a nice big screen, but it has 20GB less memory than the ipod and sells for more than $00 more than the ipod. Plus it looks like its about a year old. Does anyone think Creative is about to come out with a new, more competiti've, full size media/mp3 player? Creative's biggest advantage in the past was that the Zen players cost significantly less than the ipods, but it doesn't look that way right now. Should I hold out for something new from Creative?

I suppose it depends on how much you are going to store on your player. The reason you won't find the ZVM 60gb is that it's been discontinued (as has the 30gb version) so when stocks run out, you won't be able to buy one. The W is about a year old and both the ZVM and the ZVW will be replaced with the new Zen. While the new Zen looks fantastic, it uses flash-based memory, which limits it's memory to 6gb. I feel that Creative will have to release a new player with a larger capacity, unless the general media rumours are true and Creative really have conceeded the larger capacity player market to Apple and the iPod classic. Another purchase consideration is using the iPod - do you really want to use the processer power-eating iTunes and be limited to buying music from iTunes

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micromouse wrote:
Jammin72, don't forget that it is the Apple iPod which has "copied" Creative Zen's style of navigation of tracks in the player. Creative has a patent on this, even before Apple released its product.
True... There will always be some level of imitation of successful implementations of products but even then the iPod was forward thinking in it's design of the player.
I think Creative did a nice job with going with the Touch Pad interface and player add-ons as well as allowing the unit to work with more 3rd Party software.
This phsical and functional design change away from thier own stylistic vision to one that is obviously an iPod clone is just a bit dissapointing. Gi've us a NEW player on that is distincti've in it's own right, not one that's closer to what already exists. I would have much rather the unit look like the Zen or a large Micro and offer these features. I mean c'mon you replace the touch pad with a click wheel and from the front you would never know it's from a different company.
PS... That's not to say that I wouldn't be all over it when they come out with a 60 or 80 Gig model. Message Edited by Jammin72 on 2-08-2005 05:8 PM

Zen vision:M Need new outfit. Screen dam

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Valu,
When you say screen damage, do you mean that the screen is scratched?
If you are looking for screen protection, there's one in the online store.

New zen vision m mod

Just wondering if a new zen vision m model will be coming out soon? I know it has been out for a while and I am looking at buying the zen vision m but not sure if i should wait.

I tried the Zen Vision and I really liked it. It is basically a horizonal MP3 Player vs the Parallel type MP3 players like the Zen Vision:M. The buttons are fantastic, much, much better than the touch pad on the ZV:M. The display is 3.7" and the text information is very, very crisp and easy to read. However, I did find it a bit darker than the ZV:M. It is translucent, which means that like the iPod you can actually see what is on the screen with the light in the room or outdoors without using the backlight. The ZV:M is just totally dark and you can't see anything on it without the backlight.
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Gi'ven what you are wanting, I'd say you really should consider the ZV. It is available in black or white. I got the black one and its kind of a corragated black, so it doesn't show finger prints. However, after getting the black one, I really wish I had gotten the white one. What can I say, I like white.
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p.s. Im using japanese windows xp media center edition with sp2.

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NOT so happy CONCLUSION after all -- Installation of my ZEN Vision M (30 G

Sunday 2/3/06
Let's see, I had a problem with losing my AUDIO. Finally, I had to do a full re-install on my S.B. Audigy 2zs. I even moved it to a different PCI connector on the MB. After a full re-installation... sweet sound again.
As to the Zen itself, I keep having problems.... I am trying to update all the applications (C MediaSourde and C Media explorer) and even there I am finding problems.
When I download the upgrade file to my PC ([color="#ff3300">CMS5_PCAPP_LB_5_0_38.exe), and?try opening it, it HANGS... that's it... so I have not been able to upgrade it. And if I don't upgrade it, then I will have the same erratic behavior will all these applications. They work sometimes and sometimes they don't.
If I really force the issue, opent the explorer and the MediaSource, where I have my "library" of songs... and WHEN the ZEN is recognized by everyone (This is ramdon condition, sometimes yes, many times no), I am able to drag and drop some songs from my "library"?to the ZEN.... but I?still don't have a clear path to do this consistently... ?
Tuesday report 2/26/06:?
[color="#ff0000"](I?don't want anybody to get the ideal all is well now... I thought it was... Yesterday, but not today)
Today I?was able to?to Rip a couple of CDs and "transfer" them to the ZEN. Some of the songs?have noises?though... I don't know what causes that. But the applications are still buggy, they don't work consistently all the time. I just "sense" something is not right with my PC.
[color="#ff0000"]No only that... This installation knocked off my Audio!... even though I have a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2zs platinum! (Audio Card)... So I have NO SOUND right now?and therefore I can not use WMP-0 to rip cd's because it tells me I have not audio and I am not in the mood to deal the WMP now. So I had to use the Creative MediaSource 5, to do the ripping and the synchronizing. It did the job ok, except for the noise...
I tried everything to re-install my Audio. Tried the latest dri've...Nothing. Went back to my old one (before this installation) and it DID NOT work either!? Amazing how complicated this has become....
Monday report 2/25/06: I did not do much on the Zen today. But I did notice the WPM 0, still goes crazy (crashed) when trying to find the Zen. The WMP0 crashed today once. Also, there seem to be some conflict among certain programs... It almost seems as if more than one applications is biding for the Zen when they see it. (i.e. if the WMP is open and try opening the Creative Explorer app... it will not open... but only until I close the WMP...then the apps springs up just like that. That's it. - Good night.
I SO, IT seems like I am not out of the woods yet... I wonder if I ever will.
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Quick Tips (I see people asking the same questions)
If your ZEN seems "dead" then you need to RESET it. How? insert a "clip" (or other sharp tool. Clip works best) in the hole for RESET, located at the bottom of the ZEN (by the "dongle" connector)<?
Connect your ZEN to a "USB-PORT" (not to a "hub")?A USB-PORT is located on your computer (the box). A "Hub" is a little box connected to one USB-PORTS and it "splits" this port into several USB-Connectors... ideally useful for "devices" that do not required lost of information or current (i.e. mouse, drawing table, keyboard, etc). Devices that required a continuous or heavy amounts of information (i.e. External Hard Dri'ves, Camcorders, Webcams sometimes, required an individual USB-PORT)<?Two things here:?- This link is for the original messagehttp://forums.creative.com/creativel...essage.id=7293?[size="+2"][color="#ff0000"]2- Happy Conclusion installing the ZEN Vision M (30 Gig)(I am writing this for several reasons. Mainly, because it was a difficult installation and I wanted to summarize the 200 or 300 steps/actions I did that led me to solve the problem successfully. I always do this when I have a difficult installation and then I save it for the next time I need it (i.e. changing computers). I certainly don?t want to waste all that effort. One thing I learned about ?technology? is hard to learn it but it can be forgotten so easily, if you don?t take notes.)
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[size="+2"][color="#ff3300">What was causing the problem?
Two things:
First, problems with Windows and the computer itself.
Second, the Creative applications were horrible at first, they would not open right away and when they did? sometimes 5 or 0 seconds later? they would crash just by clicking on something? and so Windows kept giving me those Error boxes and I kept sending them to Microsoft?(I must have sent at least 00 if not more!) I was also having problems with my graphics, every time an application would crash, then all kind of weird graphics would take place when dragging things around. I also had problems at one time with my Anti-virus/fire-wall Icon going dark after several re-boots, so I had to kick it to get it working?. Oh well, I just want you to get a flavor for how bad things were yesterday.
When I first installed the software, nothing worked!... My computer was noticeably SLOWER and SLUGHISH? Actually I was worry about my computer itself because I have never seen it this bad!... I thought a virus the size of an elephant had gotten into the pc somehow, no kidding so I ran the anti-virus, anti-spy, just to make sure. Sometimes if you firewall is down, you can get viruses in an instant!... I hope you people know this by now. And if the firewall fails and viruses get in, is just at moments like these? when you are trying to get things to work and downloading stuff from the Internet and so on.
The computer was just sloooowww? sluggish?.. and crashy (new word?)?.
I must have rebooted my system from 40 to 50 times, and I am not exaggerating. At some point I even had trouble turning off the PC. There were like three time where it would just sit there in ?limbo? (hung/crashed), so I had to actually switch the?PC OFF on the back of the box, the only way to turn it off? And of course, when you do that, you can be sure you will have all kinds of interesting things when you try to boot up again! (like all kinds of funny displays on my screen, or Windows giving me the ?black screen and white text? asking me to choose a way to boot up, like ?boot up normally? or ?boot up using the last configuration that worked,? (I did this like?7 times all together).
[size="+2"][color="#ff3300">So how did?everything go?from ?so bad? to ?so wonderful?? I don?t really know exactly!
But I suspect three things happened:
- Windows sent me a couple of upgrades (I get them automatically)? I have NO IDEA what they were, but whatever they were, helped!
?2 - As I read and read, things began to come back to my brain. Especially a post reply that gave me the hint (Reformatting the dri've in the Zen) would finally let me ?transfer? my stuff to the Zen
?3 - An lastly, after I have ?cleaned, reformatted the dri've, got rid off the ?firmware? (not a good thing to do), Then I could not make Windows see the ZEN no matter what I did!? I did what worked before (connecting and disconnecting the USB cable from the white adapter (dungle?) connected to the ZEN). Usually when you do this, Windows being a ?plug and play? OS, it usually ?sees? when a new ?device? is plugged in one of the USB ports, or disconnected from a port, as well. In other words it ?recognizes? the device (connectivity) and if the software and driver are already install, the device should come ali've and work! That is the reason you always install the software and drivers first, and usually re-boot the system once, so that when you connect the ?device? (ZEN), it should work!
[size="+2"][color="#ff3300">Let me recap I what happened:
?- I installed the s/w and as I already said, it was horrible.
?2- The Windows updates, somehow were helping a little bit.
?3- I also downloaded the latest updates from Creative.com (downloads/upgrades). I downloaded the ?firmware? (the ?upgrade,? which is the OS=Operating System for the ZEN. Just like ?Windows? is to the PC) and other ?patches? for?the ?creative media source 5? and ?Zencast organizer? (3 updates). I am sure this upgrades helped some, as well.
?4- After trying so many times, I was finally able to open the ?Zen Media Explorer? (Icon looks like a picture of the Zen). When this opens, it shows you everything inside the Zen just like in the ?explorer? (nice). That meant I had connectivity! (good).
?5- Since I had ?connectivity? (access) to the ZEN, My next attempt was to ?transfer? some files down to the ZEN? but this proved impossible!... Somehow, at some?point, by accident (I?did not even notice it)? I was able to transfer ONE song to the ZEN, which gave me hope. After all, if you can do it once, you should be able to do it again. BUT, I couldn?t
?6- Then a nice lady?who responded to my first post, told me she had basically the same problems and the solution was to ?Clean and re-format? the ?Disk dri've?in the ZEN. She said that once she?did that, everything would sort of fall into place? and she was right!
?7- I unplugged the ZEN from the PC and read somewhere how ?to clean, reformat, upgrade or replace the ?firmware,? Not sure still, but it'ss something like ?resetting (with a clip) the Zen and holding the ?power? slide in the ON position? something like that, and that brings a special screen with 4 choices:
Clean<
Reformat dri've (erases everything!), <
Replace firmware (careful here!), <
Reboot. <
Then it'ss pretty easy?to do a lot of ?damage? in a few seconds!... ([color="#ff3300">careful here if you are not used to the sensitivity of the "touch-pad")In my case I did not care since I had not put anything there yet. I erased EVERYTHING!... (not a good thing). I should have been more careful and simply use option 2 (reformat the dri've). Chances are this would have been enough to transfer songs to the ZEN. But since I get crazy when doing stuff like this, I went ahead a cleaned everything.
?8- Then I realized I had erased the ?firmware. As you already know this is the ?heart? of the Zen. (like Windows to the PC). Finally I went to Creative.com/downloads and downloaded it (the full version). But if you remember in #3, I had also downloaded the ?firmware? upgrade as well. The reason this is significant, is, that when I finally recovered ?connectivity? to the ZEN, I? tried both files, but the one that ZEN accepted was the upgrade! (I found this interesting? since I would have thought the full version would have been the correct choice? see?... little things you learn.
?9- As I already gave you a hint in #8, once I had the ?firmware? ready to install, the system kept telling me it could NOT see the ZEN. I connected and disconnected the USB cable several times? rebooted the pc? this helps sometimes, but nothing!... FINALLY, I read somewhere, I should go to the ?device manager? and check what was going on.. ? EUREKA ? indeed I found the ZEN with a ?Yellow mark? on the side, which always means trouble. Basically, I used the ?uninstall? option (based of the principle that simply ?un-installing and installing back something? sometimes this works. In other words, the ZEN was ?stucked. So when I ?removed? It from the ?Device Manager? list (I don?t recall if I rebooted here? but it never hurts!), then all of the sudden? a little icon in Windows (on the small tray=bottom right corner (with the clock and Date),? acknowledged?a new deviced had been connected to Windows. (connectivity back again! Yeahhh).
?0- Now that had ?connectivity? (Big step), I could try installing the ?firmware. And as I already explained, the ?upgrade? was the one that ZEN took. As soon as you clicked on the file, a box opened and asked if you wanted to install the ?firmware. I said yes and voila!... The Zen started accepting it's and when it ended, just like a PC, the ZEN rebooted itself and I was able to see the familiar interface (the same folders as before) but not contents at all? empty!
?- At this?point?I opened the ?Creative Media Source organizer,? went to my ?playlist? and from there, just click and drag some songs and dropped them on top of the Zen Icon (just like dropping files in a folder). And yes, the files were finally ?transferred? to the ZEN. Unplugged the USB cable from the Zen (or the Zen does not play anything). The songs were there and I was FINALLY able to listen to them from the ZEN!... Wonderful. Oh yes, using the same technique (drag and drop), I put a wmv video and was able to watch it as well... Now I know why people rave about the little screen... nice!
?2- In the mean time, without noticing? Just like the nice lady?from the post said, everything seemed to have fallen into place!
?In Summary: The applications ( the creative programs=icons)?were opening normally and quickly now, and many of the errors I got before when clicking on certain things, disappeared. I am sure I will still find some problems here and there, but basically the thing works now the way it is supposed to.
?Just a matter of clicking, dragging and dropping items?into the Zen?.yes, that simple!
?Good luck!
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There's video problems with my Zen Vision:M already (M video cable related) Please help

Some background...
System:Windows XP with Service Pack 2.
Player: Brand new Creative Zen Vision: M with no firmware updates.
My Zen Vision:M has a problem (besides the scratch and fingerprint attracting top surface): It won't play videos on a TV screen when the M Video Cable (also from Creative) is linked to it anymore. It's only been a few hours...
I had the cable already, and got the player today. I let the player charge to /4th of a battery while I was setting up all the software. I ran the software programs just to take a peek, only changing the name of my player (to my name). I used Winamp 5.3 to put a music track on the player to test it. After that, I hooked it up to the VCR in my room through the white and yellow A/V plugs in front. It worked just fine. It to the tv a little large, but I was okay with it.
Later on today, the new AC charger I ordered came in the mail (Player came through UPS, charger through USPS). I looked at my old charger (Creative Zen Touch) and realized it would work with the plug-in part of the sync unit at the bottom. I tested it for a minute and it did. I still took it out and tried the new one. This is where, I think, something happened. I had to press the sides to get the thing in, and it was hard to come out. Everything still fit just right, and nothing seemed to be wrong. I used my old charger as I added more of my music library. Now it was on to videos. I had to convert the first two test vids (they were .wmv), but they played on my player fine. I put a bigger .wmv file onto the player to see if it had to convert it, and it did. It still played on the player. When I go to hook it to the TV with the A/V cord again, there was nothing but a black screen with the occasional diagonal scan line. The sound is still there.
Besides quirks with the navigational system, the player is still great for music and video. Still, I needed no video capability, and one of the things that made the ZVM a buy for me was watching my vids on the big screen. I'd return this for a second try, but I want to know if this is a recurring issue with you guys and if there's something I can do to fix it before a return. Did I mess with a setting? Should I get new firmware? Did I do wrong using my old charger? If any of you have an answer, or need more info on my situation, please let me know.
And BTW, does anyone know of some better software for organizing files on the ZVM? I used Winamp for my Zen Touch and the music on my ZVM, but videos are another ballpark. I can't transfer a video from one folder to another folder (assuming both folders are on the ZVM). Not to mention the music I transferred using Winamp isn't even showing up in Windows Media Player. I think I need a different program altogether.

I have got a new Creative Zen Vision W and getting the same problem....when i attach to the tv then i am able to hear the audio content and the video does not show.Are we missing something ? or is it a problem with the player. Also the software provided with the Zen converts small .vob files to .wmv when ever the size is large it gives an error 'conversion?unsucessful'.Any body facing similar problems please help.

Zen Vision M & Creative Organise

I updated my Zen Touch to a Zen Vision M last summer and successfully transferred my tracks (sort of) but I am having problems with the new, updated Creative Organiser?5.
In the previous version I was using, I could manipulate the information on my Zen DIRECTLY, "seeing" the device and the information in exactly the same way as if it were in my computer library and I was able to alter a?WHOLE?album at a time of information eg I had a double album that automatically ripped with the artist's name spelt slightly differently for each disc, thereby creating a whole?DIFFERENT album!?to put it right, I would highlight all of the tracks of one album and change one entry of the artist's name and they would all change.
In the current version of organiser, I can change the Album Artist, but only one track at a time and as I have made each audio book appear as ONE ALBUM (by laboriously renumbering all the tracks sequentially from disc to disc?as I ripped them - no laughing matter I can assure you!) to change 400 tracks individually isn't something I want to contemplate!
Now with this version, although I can SEE the information on the Zen, I am not able to change anything!
Indeed, Creative Organiser 5 appears to have?many less columns than previous versions and I have noticed some flaws in some of my old recordings of?audiobooks and would like to correct it, but cant as the columns are no longer there to change!? EG Album Artist, Contributing Artist (where I would put for example J K Rowling, Stephen Fry) But now, they only have Album Artist!
Also, GENRE!!!!!!
!!! What has happened to this very useful function?!? Again, in the old version of?Organiser I would highlight and change a whole album to show the same entry, but not only can I NOT seem to VIEW by genre, I cannot see how to alter those that I created in the old version.
I have looked in the Creative Help, but it keeps talking about editing items in the Music Library, NOT on the MP3 player.
If it is not possible to re-create the old functions in the new Creative Organiser 5, does anyone have any suggestions of other Creative-compatible programs I could try? Some time ago I was recommended to MediaMonkey, which I quite liked and indeed, in fact previously I used Microsoft Media Player, which I PREFERRED to Creative Organiser, but neither of those programmes recognise the Zen Vision M!
Any advice, help and general wisdom would be appreciated!!

Well if you are running the same version, the only other possibilities I could think off that might be causing problems are :A)? Bad registry EntriesB) Possibly Bad DLL'sMediasource uses MicrosoftJet/MDAC libraries for maintaining the backend database. Its possible that one of the microsoft MDAC files is bad, corrupt, or the wrong version causing the playlist database inside mediasource to misbehave. You can go to Microsoft site and try downloading and running their MDAC checker utility.http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/i...splayLang%3den?(if the above link doesn't work, go to http://download.microsoft.com and search for "mdac checker" and it will show up on the list)?Download and run the checker, and see if it finds any problems with your MDAC installation.My system is running Windows XP SP2 and has MDAC 2.8 SP installed.
The file revisions for most all the MDAC files show as 2.8.7 on my system. At this point am just guessing, but the above is something to try to see if we can figure out what is different between your system and mine.

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