Zen Xtra 60gig PlaysForSure firmwa

I've been debating about putting this firmware in but i'm wondering 2 things.
. Will my Xbox 360 recognize my mp3 player?
2. It says that I can lose space and it's noticable in the larger models (I have the 60 gig model). How much space am I going to lose? I mean,I don't want to end up only being able to use like 45 gigs of space,else I would have bought the 40 gig model from the start. How much space do I actually lose by installing this firmware?

I'm just making sure. Because I ended up ripping the same CD in 2 sessions and then it wouldnt show up in the one folder no matter even if I dropped them into the folder with the others AND editing the IDtags correctly. I ended up having to re-encode the files themselves and type all the IDTags in again by hand.
Example: I ripped track -5 of the Clerks Soundtrack. The disc was dirty so I wiped it off and then continued from 6-0. On my player -5 would show up at the Clerks Soundtrack and then 6-0 would show up as ANOTHER folder called Clerks Soundtrack. I had all the tags edited correctly for the Album and they were all inside folder,but the player showed 2 just because I ripped them in 2 different sessions.

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Issues with Zen Xtra (30GB) PlaysForSure firmw

Apologies if this subject has been covered, but I haven't found any coverage of the particular problems I have with the firmware upgrade (2.0.03).
My main beef is to do with the compatibility with the firmware upgrade and Creative MediaSource. Before I installed the firmware upgrade, along with the drivers and necessary software updates, I was extremely happy with the way MediaSource worked with my Zen Xtra. When I wanted to listen to music through my computer (often), I would simply plug in my player, and using MediaSource, I could navigate through my player's library with ease. It meant it wasn't necessary for me to store music on my computer's hard dri've. Now, while it is still possible to listen to the music on my player using MediaSource, the music library window doesn't feature the Artist/Album/Genre windows for easy navigation (Added to this, due to the way I backed my music up when installing the new firmware, my music is all in Artist/Album folders, making it even more of a nuisance to use).
I know it is the firmware making it do this, because with my friend's Zen Xtra which doesn't have the firmware upgrade, the old style navigation still applied. As it does with my PC Music Library (a function I don't use).
Also, the firmware seems to have made my player much slower and less responsi've, and (this may just be paranoia) the shuffle mode seems much less effecti've.
I wish I could just go back to the way things were, but of course, I can't, because for some reason Creative have made it impossible to revert to the previous firmware!
Can anyone help?

Sounds like an incompatibility with the card, which is surprising as NEC cards are usually no problem. There are various things to try as mentioned in the FAQ post (search on "connection problems") but I think you need to focus on making sure you have the latest drivers for the card, as well as the player itself.

Zen Xtra 60gb (PlaysForSure Firmware 2.10.03) very sl

I updated my Zen Xtra to PlaysForSure Firmware 2.0.03 (on XP SP2, WMP 0) and it became very very slow on transferring data (mp3, avi etc.) from ZEN to PC, i.e. 5 minutes for 500mb.
When I try to download gb file from ZEN, win gives me an error like "no memory enough for this operation". What? PIV .6ghz, 52 ram, 20Gb on hard disk...
I tried to re-install usb 2.0 drivers but nothing happened.
Could you help me or give me new firmware?
Thanks,
Francesco.

Some have reported that reloading the firmware will fix the slowness. Gi've that a try and see if it works for you.
As for the file error that you are getting, download the following 3 hotfixes, esp the last one as it speficially fixes this error. The other 2 I suggest you download them just in case to prevent some errors that may appear.
Windows Media Format 9.5 Runtime:
<a href='http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;8922' target=_blank>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;8922[/url]
DRM performance fix:
<a href='http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;902344' target=_blank>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;902344[/url]
Fix for large data transfers:
<a href='http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;89536' target=_blank>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;89536[/url]

Zen Xtra fails PlaysForSure Firmware update - Now it won't install a firmw

Zen Xtra 40 - Was upgrading from .30 firmware to 2.0.03 to support WMP and VistaFirmware Upgrade to Failed to Complete
Downloaded and ran PlaysForSure Firmware 2.0.03
It identified my Zen Xtra and started the upgrade, Zen Xtra rebooted and just sat there. 2 hours later I disconnected Zen Xtra and its in Recovery Menu. Reboot says Firmware Problem and goes to the recovery menu again.
If I plug it back into my system it says it found a 20mb 'Portable Device' MTP and lets me open the device but nothing is on the 20mb partition.
If I run PlaysForSure Firmware 2.0.03 again it says I must plug in the device, even though its definitely plugged in and recognized as an MTP device.
Seems like the PlaysForSure Firmware 2.0.03 isn't designed to identify the device after a partial upgrade? Tried older .30 Firmware install program, it can't identify the device either. Device shows up in Device Manager as Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra using a Microsoft Driver.
I've installed the latest JB3MV2_PCWDRV_US_2_0_00.exe drivers and it does not help. Device still detects as a Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra. If I uninstall Windows Media Player it won't install any drivers and won't accept the PCW Driver either.
Where can I get a firmware updater that will function when my Zen Xtra wants to be an MTP device?I tried another computer with WM9, just PCWDRV 2.0 drivers, and it will not detect and install the drivers when I plug the device in. Says it can't find suiteable drivers for this device.
Tried Cleanup, Reload OS, Reboot.
Boot v.4 and HW v0.0. Any ideas?

Wow after searching hundreds of documents on this forum I got my firmware updated
!!! I took my notebook, which I had recently upgraded from WMP9 to WMP after I could not get it to recognize and upgrade my Zen. I uninstalled WMPI uninstalled WMP RuntimeRebootedI went to Microsoft and get WMP0 specificallyInstalled it and closed itI ran the ZenXtraPS4Audible_PCFW_LB_2_0_03.exeOn the Zen I selected Reload OS, I click to have it reload OS, while it was doing that I plugged it into the notebook. The Firmware Tool Detected the Device again!!Current version 2.0.03Upgrade will be 2.0.03I click Upgrade!?It upgraded this time!!?The bummer is ALL MY MUSIC is wiped off my device. I didn't format it, but I guess the upgrade does it for you. Which means I just lost hundreds of dollars worth of songs since WMP doesn't have a license transfer and all my music was on the ZEN. So even though I have the files on my computer, they won't play because I don't have the license any longer.

3.4 gig Free on my Zen Xtra 60gig and this wonderful firmware won't allow anymore transf

I am beginning to really hate Creative and how they choose Microsoft over their loyal customers. I cannot transfer anymore music to my ZenXtra 60 even though I have 3.4 gig free. I keep getting error messages saying library is full or I get just an error message. I bought this player to fill up 60 gig's not just under 60 gigs. Is this company for real? It took me close to 3 weeks to transfer to this player what normally would of taken up to 4 days. I HATE THIS FIRMWARE I HATE THIS FIRMWARE. Anyone know what's going on?

brotsalami wrote:as far as i know, this will not work
All the same I can't see how can this hurt to try...
Do try it and see for yourself, even send an email to support and ask them if and how can you revert to v firmware...
Do try it anyway, it can't be worse than sulking...
Either way do remember to BACK UP since a firmware reload deletes everyhting!!!
Keep us posted
Catherina-CL wrote:
This firmware upgrade enables playback of subscription music service content on the Zen Xtra, but may reduce the total number of files that the player can store. The actual results will vary depending on content specifications, and the result may be more evident in players with larger capacity.
Arg!
Does this mean that the "wonderful" MTP uses cluster sizes that further reduce the possible storage ammount?
As if I didn't already hated it as it is...
darn you Micro$ost!!!Message Edited by Keyper7 on 02-23-200605:49 PM

Playlist in zen micro with playsforsure firmw

I'm using a zen micro with the 2..02 firmware... and napster to go... napster to go takes forever to transfer my tracks so usually I just use WMP 0 as a standalone... The question is... why can't I view playlists that I created on the fly inside my player in WMP0.... I've already accepted the fact that you can't delete most of the mandatory Napster playlists without deleting the tracks that they are composed of... and that kinda sux... but I thought that you would at least be able to view the playlists that you created on your player in WMP 0.... Is there something that I'm not doing?

WMP0 does not handle playlists properly, well not at all, so it will not work with any device the way its intended to do. Just got to sit back and wait for the next WMP update that Microsoft releases, but this problem was posted on their KnowledgeBase since March I believe so they are well aware of it.....

Zen Xtra firmw

Hello
I upgrated my zen xtra firmware to the latest version aviable 2.0.03 - PlayForSure. I don't like it, I want to change firmware to .0.0 or newest but I can't. Could someone tell me how to do it's I plug my zen into cpu and try upgrate but i shows my zen is not connected . Someone told me I need to "change" bootcore but I don't know how. Please, help me..
P.S. Sorry about language, i'm from foreign country and my English isn't very well

There is a pack on the Downloads page that you can use if you have updated to the PlaysForSure firmware:
<TABLE id=Table5 borderColor=#cccccc cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="00%" border=>
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<TD colSpan=2><B>Filename: </B><B>ZENZ_PCAPP_LB__40_03_MTP.exe</B></TD></TR>
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<DIV id=ShortDesc>
This package is for Creative NOMAD? Jukebox Zen? Xtra players with PlaysForSure? firmware (version 2.0.03 and above) installed.
IMPORTANT: Install this package <I>after</I> installing the PlaysForSure firmware (version 2.0.03 and above) on your player. To check your player's firmware version number, see 'Notes' below.
<DIV id=Features>
This package includes the following applications:
<B>Zen Xtra Media Explorer (for PlaysForSure devices) .40.03</B>Zen Xtra Media Explorer makes it easy to manage music tracks and data files in your player.
<B>Sync Manager (version 5.0.0)</B>Sync Manager synchronizes music tracks in your computer with your player.
<B>Import Wizard (version 5.0.0)</B>Transfer music tracks to your player in an instant with Import Wizard. You can transfer individual tracks or entire folders from your computer, and use the intelligent Advanced Tagging function to fill in track information.
<B>CD Ripping Wizard (version 5.00.2)</B>Use CD Ripping Wizard to quickly rip music tracks from your audio CDs and transfer them to your Zen Xtra.
<B>Creative MediaSource Plugin for PlaysForSure devices (version .30.0)</B>The plugin enables you to organize, transfer and manage music tracks in your player, using Creative MediaSource? Organizer.
<DIV id=Notes>
<I>Requirements</I>
Microsoft Windows? XP or Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
Creative NOMAD Jukebox Zen Xtra with PlaysForSure firmware (2.0.03 and above) installed
Creative MediaSource version 3.20.79 or above. To check your version of Creative MediaSource, see ?Notes' below.</LI>
<I>Notes</I>
To check your player's firmware version number:
Press and hold the Power button to turn on your player (if necessary).
Select <B>Settings</B> -> About... in the main menu. The firmware version number is displayed under the Version heading.</LI>
To check your Creative MediaSource version number:
Launch Creative MediaSource.
Click <B>Help</B> on the menu bar.
Select the <B>About Creative MediaSource</B> option. The version number is displayed in the dialog box that appears.</LI>
</LI>
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Zen Xtra problem with latest firmw

Hi everyone. I've tried searching for this but I can't find the answer.
I've recently upgraded my Zen Xtra 60gb to the latest firmware on the Creative Labs downloads page (2.0.03). Re-copied all my music back onto it and some of the albums which were fine before now play out of order.
All my music is correctly tagged with track number information and when I view the files using the new Zen Explorer addin the tracks are all present with the track number prefixed by the filename. But on some albums when I right click and choose properties there is no track number stored.
How can I fix this? Is it the way I transfered my music onto the player (I just copied the folders using explorer to the 'My Music' folder on the Zen)? Or is this a 'feature' designed to get me to change my mp3 player?

I'm not sure why some files lost thier tag info. But I'll tell you this, adding tag information through Media Scource does not wirte to the actual file.
And when you export files from Media Source, you have configure it a certain way to add the tag info to the files while its exporting.
Zen Explorer may be the sameway, so check that.
Theres a program called Tag&Rename, it can correctly Tag mp3 in batch. I think the free version is like a 4 or 30 trial but it should be long enough just to get your job done.

Safest way to update the Zen Xtra's firmwa

I am running a Creative NOMAD Jukebox Zen Xtra (earlier, non-PFS firmware) on an XP machine with Windows Media Player .
What is the safest way to update my player's firmware so that I can use PFS?

uynless you realy realy want the palys for sure firmware, or you need ti to work with vista you would be better off leaving it as it is.
if you must update the firmware do this:
back up everything on your player ( you should have a back up anyway ) going to the PFS 2.x.x firmware will completly wipe ( format) the hard disk.
go to control panel, then add/remove programmes, remove windows media player and windows media player runtime, it will 'rollback' to windows media player 0, re-boot your p.c.
check the add/remove porgammes again just to be sure that WMP and WMP runtime are not lurking..
Charge your Zen xtra, and leave it conected to the charger.
Download the firmware, and follow the on screen prompts, cross your fingers and hope for the best.

ZEN XTRA uninstalling 2.10.03 firmw

Hey guys, I've been lingering around this forum for a while now, since installing the latest version of firmware on my Zen Xtra. It was a mistake that I shouldn't have made, whenever I try and browse my files using either MediaSource or WMP my computer hangs for an obscene amount of time. I have tried installing the 3 updates listed on this BB, but some of them don't work as I already use WMP 0... and I find the whole thing very confusing.
I haven't been able to find a solution to this annoying problem, I've tried reloading the firmware etc. - so I thought the only solution would be to roll back the firmware to the original version (.20.08?). I have the installer on my computer, but when I try to reload it the computer does not recognise the player. I have tried uninstalling the drivers, but it only recognises the player when attempting to (re)install version 2.0.03. How can I get around this?! I just want things to be the way they were!! Is it possible to uninstall this blasted piece of software?! :angry:
Thanks
Steve

Dear Steve, my slow-Nomad-friend,
last week I sent tons of exhotic fruit, bananas, mangoes, to Creative Labs'people to make their work easier; now I'm sending a lot of gold to make them faster.
Maybe tomorrow I'll lock their doors until we'll have a new, good firmware and having fun again.
Now I'm tryin' to talk with my Zen: a new battery for a faster up-download. I hope we'll find an agreement.
Fra.

MediaSource 5 isn't recognizing my Zen Xtra pla

Hi,
I have a Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra mp3 player, version .03.02. I've had it since July of 2003.
I recently bought a new computer (Dell Inspiron 520; Windows XP Home Edition). My old computer had Creative Organizer software on it. I no longer have (or more accurately, I can no longer find) any CDs that would allow me to install that software onto my new computer.
When I first plugged my mp3 player into my new computer, the computer didn't recognize the hardware. I went to the Creative support site and downloaded this driver ( JB3MV2_PCWDRV_US_2_0_00.EXE ). Installing that allowed the computer to recognize the player. I then tried to transfer music from my computer to the player with Windows Media Player 0 (my preference is to avoid upgrading to WMP , if possible). The computer *did* recognize the player and I was able to move music over, but when I unplugged the player to view the new files I had placed there, I wasn't able to find them on the player (I think they *are* there somewhere, but I can't seem to find where the Windows Media Player put them).
Therefore, I went back to the Creative support site and downloaded and installed the Creative MediaSource 5 software ( CMS5_PCAPP_LB_5_0_38.exe ), but when I open up Creative MediaSource 5 and click on "Transfer Music," I get a pop-up box saying that there isn't any mp3 player plugged into the system, so it can't transfer anything. It gives me that box no matter how many times I unplug and re-plug in the player to my computer.
At this point, I'd prefer to transfer my music to my player via the MediaSource software, since I have a feeling it will be more user-friendly for me. However, any advice that will help me with transferring music to my player and allowing me to find it easily on the player will be most appreciated.
Thank you!

Hi,
If you have not already, please make sure that you have the correct plugin installed. Check the firmware version of your Zen Xtra and go back to the download page where you downloaded MediaSource 5.
If you have the PlaysForSure firmware in your player, download and install this:
Creative PlaysForSure Devices Plugin 5.00.36 for Creative MediaSource 5 Player/Organizer 27.90 MB
CMS5_MTP_PCAPP_LB_5_00_36.exe
Otherwise, download and install this:
Creative ZEN and NOMAD Jukebox Plugin 5.00.22 for Creative MediaSource 5 Player/Organizer 6.24 MB
CMS5_NJB2_PCAPP_LB_5_00_22.exe
Hope this hel
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Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra stops working with XP following Windows Media Player 11 Beta Installat

Yesterday I was very pleased to find that my Creative Zen Xtra (model DAP-HD00) portable media player is a PlaysForSure capable device. Creative Labs, on November 9, 2005, released the Creative Zen Xtra PlaysForSure Firmware v2.0.03. I installed this firmware (I had to install the Creative ZenJukebox Driver v.30.03 first to get Windows to recognize the device). Once the firmware was upgraded, Windows began recognizing the Zen Xtra as a MTP device and life was good. I was able to synchronize it with both Napster To Go and Windows Media Player 0.
After this, I went ahead and installed Windows Media Player Beta, which I just downloaded yesterday as well.
From a functional standpoint, WMP seems to run just fine. However, when I connected the Creative Zen Xtra (with its PlaysForSure firmware), Windows redetected the hardware. It first showed "Creative Jukebox Zen Xtra" in the tooltip, followed by "MTP Device" in the new hardware tooltip. Finally, Windows announced that there was a problem installing my new hardware and that it may not work properly.
Sure enough, when I went into Device Manager, my Zen Xtra was showing as an MTP Device with an exclamation point on it. More specifically, it specified the status of, "This device cannot start (Code 0)."
Prior to the installation of Windows Media Player, the Creative Zen Xtra showed in device manager with the following characteristics under the heading "Windows Portable Devices":
Name: NOMAD Jukebox Zen XtraDriver Version: 5.2.0.0 dated 8/30/2004Digitally Signed by Microsoft Windows Component Publisher
Driver File Details:C:\Windows\system32\wpdusb.sys - v5.2.3802.3802 built by dnsrv(bld4act)
Windows Media Player changed this to the following (the device now shows up under "Portable Devices"):
Name: MTP DeviceDriver Version: 5.2.5326.4762 dated 2/22/2006Digitally Signed by Microsoft Windows Component Publisher
Driver File Details:C:\Windows\system32\wpdusb.sys - v5.2.5358.4827 (WMP_.060509-2009)C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\wudfrd.sys - v6.0.5348.0(winmain(wmbla).0604-339)
The file wudfrd.sys is NOT digitally signed in this case.
As of now, my Zen Xtra is completely unusable on this system, and I need to sync it with my laptop for the time being, which still has WMP 0 installed on it.
Is this a bug with WMP beta? Is it a problem with my firmware? Since this is PlaysForSure compliant firmware, and it worked flawlessly with Napster and WMP 0 (before the MTP driver was updated), it would seem to be a WMP beta issue. I'd like to hear more official confirmation on the subject, however.
Some general details about my system are:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2Verified GENUINE Microsoft operating system using Genuine Advantage ValidationIntel Pentium 4 CPU 3.2 GHz, Hyper-Threaded processor2.00 GB RAM
Windows Media Player Version: .0.5358.4827Napster Version: 3.6.0.7 (US)
Any recommendations? Fixes? Some have suggested rolling back the WMP installation, but I would like to consider this option only as an absolute last resort.
Best regards,Matt

Ok, this worked out accidentally - but happily
I first installed the driver - not the media source - but the driver for the device.
After that the windows device manager yellow sign disappeared - apparently the device driver was registered by windows.
Then I Installed Mediasource 5 - the installation went thru fine.
Does anyone have any recommended updates to install, please also advise what benefits.
Thanks.

Windows XP driver problem - Nomad Zen Xtra and Zen To

I have both a Nomad Zen Xtra 60GB and a Zen Touch 20GB, both of which were working fine with my Windows XP Pro SP2 computer until a couple of days ago. I had recently put firmware 2.0.03 onto the Zen Xtra, and was using the drag-and-drop method in Windows Explorer to copy loads of albums across to it from my music folder. It seems I might have tried to copy too much over at one go, because eventually the file copying just stopped, and I had to unplug the Zen Xtra from the PC to abandon the copy process. Since then, neither Zen device has been properly recognised by any of my PCs. When I plug the Zen Xtra into?a USB port, Windows brings up the messages: "Found new hardware: Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra" and "Found new hardware: MTP device", then brings up the Found New Hardware Wizard, even though firmware 2.0.03 is supposed to provide "seamless support with any computer running Microsoft? Windows Media? Player 0 and Windows? XP - no drivers or software needed" (I have WMP0.00.00.4036 installed). The Zen Xtra's display does not show the "docked" icon except when plugged into my laptop (running XP Home Edition)... but even on the laptop Windows still asks for a driver, which it then fails to install properly. When I plug my Zen Touch into my PC, it detects that an MTP device has been connected, but Windows Media Player doesn't list it under the Sync tab, and when I try to install the "Creative Software Suite for PlaysForSure-enabled Creative Zen Touch Players", the installer complains that "Setup could not detect any portable device on your system... please ensure that Zen Touch PlaysForSure Firmware is properly installed". The device's firmware version is 2..0, and as I have already said, both this and the Zen Xtra were working fine with my PC up until a couple of days ago. Additionally, the "docked" icon?no longer appears?on the Zen Touch's display when plugged into the PC. I have made the registry change suggested in Creative Knowledge Base Solution ID #9287, and my PC is up-to-date with Windows Hotfixes. I've also tried uninstalling all Creative programs and reinstalling them one at a time, but I can not get my PC to correctly work with the Zen devices anymore. Any suggestions? Also, is there some kind of Factory Reset that I can do to get my Zen Xtra back to an earlier firmware?

I had the same issue. My battery ran down during a sync, then I was unable to sync again.
The Zen is showing up fine in the device manager, but none of the software (Media Player, MediaSource) sees it.
Finally, after a day of trying new drivers, running cleanup, etc. I decided to go into the Zen's recovery menu. To get there, press and hold the Play button and press and hold the reset (use a paperclip) button while powering up.
Once there, select the first option in the menu to Clean up the system. I forgot what it's called and I'm in the middle of a sync now, so can't look.
Worked fine after that. Phew!
If your device is being detected fine, but cannot sync, try that and post here if it fixes it.
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Moving music from my nomad jukebox zen xtra to my

I am trying to move my music from my nomad jukebox zen xtra to my pc - i cant get the creative media source to recognize my player - i tried windows media player and comcast rhapsody - it recognized my player but wont let me highlight music to move to my PC
any ideas please?
many thanks

[size="2" face="Helv">You must install the specific MP3 player plugin for MediaSource. Here is what you should do:
- Download and install the latest Creative MediaSource Player/Organizer 3.30.2 from your product download site. Make sure that you install this first before installing the rest of the MediaSource plugins listed below.
- (Depending on your product and firmware)
For non-PlaysForSure Zen Xtra: Download and install the latest Creative Zen and NOMAD Jukebox plugin 2.00.20 for Creative MediaSource from your product download site.
or:
For PlaysForSure Zen Xtra: Download and install the Creative Software Suite for PlaysForSure-enabled Creative NOMAD Jukebox Zen Xtra Players.

Is there a way to format a Jukebox Zen Xtra from the device itself?

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It's been a while since I used my Xtra but I seem to recall there's an option to format the player from the rescue screen - hold down the play button and press the reset button in with a paperclip and you should see a screen with an option to completely format the player. I may be dreaming it, but it's worth a try!
That said, if you can find someone with a PC running Windows XP and Windows Media Player 10 (alternatively, install Windows XP in VirtualBox and upgrade to Windows Media Player 10) you can install the latest "PlaysForSure" Xtra firmware from the download page. Once installed this turns the Xtra into a standard MTP device, allowing you to use it on any machine that supports MTP without having to install any drivers (this includes Windows with Media Player 10 or later installed, so Vista and later are automatically supported). However, you can only install the firmware from a machine running Windows Media Player 10 - if you try with Windows Media Player 11 or later installed the firmware updater will fail to detect the player.
I updated my Zen Xtra to the PlaysForSure firmware when it was first released and never had any issues with my player after that, in XP, Vista or 7 (and it made life much easier as I no longer had to rely on Creative's drivers, which were a little problematic).

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