Zen Xtra file prob

Here is the scenario: When I use my player daily, I have no problems. If it sits for a couple days, the next time I power it on, it goes through a library re-build (which takes for ever since I have nearly 40GB on it). I have tried clean up, which seems to stop at 99% for a long time, then completes. After completing, I've tried a reboot. Same problem, goes through the library build.
. What has caused this (didn't used to do this)?
2. Will reformatting fix the problem (if it's a file issue)?

cfeltenberger: I think you have two options left. The first I would try would be to reinstall the firmware, or see if there's an upgrade available from what you have now. Reloading the firmware shouldn't blank the hard disk. Failing that, then yes, you're looking at a format. I can't guarantee either will work, but they're definitely worth a try.
Rich_T: He mentioned that he'd tried a cleanup.
silverknight4jc: Please read the posts floated at the top of the forum. One of those tells you how to do a disk cleanup. It varies by player. Also please read the "Read this first..." post.

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Thank u Creative for selling crap, wich makes me spend hours trying to fix ur problems. I know, im the true idiot for trusting Creative to manifacture products that works... Yes i have learnd my lesson..
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I already tried searcing the forums, And I didn't come across anything like this, And anything I came across that was similar I did as was suggested and it didn't help. anyways, onto the problem...:
I'm using Windows XP by the way.
I just got a new Zen Xtra a few days ago because I had to return my first one because the harddri've crashed, so I took this one home, loaded my music onto it and it was fine. Today I went to load more music onto it and my computer started lagging really badly, I use Realplayer to put my music onto the player and when I clicked into it, It would freeze as it was starting and I'd have to kill the program.
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I (physically) disconnected and reconnected my player while in Nomad Exploer but it's still a no-go.
I cleaned up the disk on my player and rebooted it, I used a different cable and tried all my USB ports. What do you suggest I do?
I really need some help and if it doesn't get fixed I'm not getting another replacement, I'll have to get a different brand.Message Edited by spring90 on 08-07-2006 04:43 PM

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Hello There,
I am experiencing the exact same problem - "Device not connected, even though I can see the device as a virtual dri've on my XP SP2 PC. I have contacted creative tech support and followed their instructions to the letter with no success.
Creative tech support instructed me to try the following:
MaKe sure that my antivirus software, firewall and spy ware is turned off. Their thinking was that some services are effect the connection between the MP3 device and USB port.</LI>
Also I tried booting my XP PC in safe mode, ensuring the most of the services were turned off .. i.e. firewall, virus protection, etc. Still can not get the device to connect.</LI>
align=center>The Error message on the Device itself (Zen Xtra display) reads as follows:Firmware error on reboot -- error message simply states "firmware problem" then goes to Rescue Mode v.3 - Boot v.4, HW v0.0.displays following 4 options: Clean Up2: Format all3: Reload OS4: RebootTried all four options and still getting same error message.
I am going to try and load the original firmware that came with Zen Xtra, if that works I will try to upgrade the firmware to the latest release.
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If you have the latest firmware that is playsforsure, you don't need any drivers. Just plug your Zen into the USB and you will be able to use it. If the firmware is not playsforsure, you will probably need to download the drivers again, failing this you should contact customer support.Message Edited by joshua32 on 05-0-2006 04:22 PM

HILFE......Creative Zen Xtra Firmware Prob

Hallo, leider kann ich nicht englisch, aber meine Hoffnung ist, dass hier jemand deutsch versteht und ich hier Hilfe bekomme. Ich habe mir einen MP3 Player gekauft. Und zwar einen
Creative Zen Xtra 30 GB.
Da ich dachte, dass der Player mit neuer Firmware noch besser funktionieren w rde, habe ich versucht die Firmware 2.0.3.0 zu installieren.
Aber w hrend dem Installieren gab es einen Stromausfall und jetzt geht gar nichts mehr. Jetzt meldet der Player immer: Firmware Problem.
Wenn ich auf Arbeitsplatz gehe, ist der Player aufgef hrt. Aber wenn ich die neue Firmware laden will, erscheint immer: Player nicht angeschlossen.
Ich habe es mit Media Player 9 und 0 und probiert, mit dem gleichen Resultat.
Auf dem Arbeitsplatz erscheint der Player als Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra. Wenn ich ihn dann durch Doppelklick ffne, erscheint Storage Media und darunter steht 20.0 MB frei von 20.0 MB.
Ich bin eine Hausfrau und habe nicht besonders viel Ahnung von all diesen Dingen. Ich m chte nur, dass mein Player wieder funktioniert und ich meine Musik und meine H rb cher wieder h ren kann.
Bitte, bitte, kann mir jemand helfen
F r eure Hilfe jetzt schon ein grosses DANKE.
Gruss Annemarie
Message Edited by Annemarie on -2-200702:49 PM

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unfortunately I know hello not English, but my hope is that someone understands here German and I get assistance here. I bought a MP3 Player. A Creative Zen Xtra 30 GB. Since I thought that the Player with new firmware would work still better, had I tries the firmware 2.0.3.0 to install. But during installing there was a power failure and goes now nothing at all more. Now the Player always announces: Firmware problem. If I go on job, the Player is specified. But if I the new firmware to load wants, always appears: Player not attached. I tried it with Media Player 9 and 0 and , with the same result. On the job the Player appears as Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra. If I it then through doubleclick open, STORAGE appears Media and among them 20,0 MT stand freely from 20.0 MT. I am a housewife and have not particularly much notion of all these things. I would like only the fact that my Player again functioned and I mean music and again can hear my hearing books. Please, please, someone can help me For your assistance now already a large THANKS.
the firmware update only works using Windows XP.
Go to the control panel, then add remove programmes
remove windows media player , then re-start your computer
remove windows media player runtim and re-start your computper
remove all creative software from your computer, and re start your computer
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die Arbeiten des Mikroprogrammaufstellungupdates nur mit Windows.xp.
Gehen Sie zur Steuerverkleidung, f gen Sie dann entfernen Programme entfernen Fenstermittelspieler , wiederbeginnen dann Ihren Computer entfernen Fenstermittelspieler runtim und wiederbeginnen Ihr computper entfernen alle kreati've Software von Ihrem Computer hinzu, und Re stellen Ihren Computer an
downloaden Sie die playsforsure Software von der creative Web site, und bringen Sie es an
versuchen Sie das Mikroprogrammaufstellungupdate noch einmal
Aufmerksamkeit! Sobald Sie das Mikroprogrammaufstellungupdate (2.0.3) beginnen, das alles aus Ihrem Spieler gel scht wird, wenn Sie havent eine Kopie auf Ihrem Computer erhielten, sollten Sie versuchen und fr here Mikroprogrammaufstellungversion, die mit beginnt. wenn dieses doesnt owkr dann Sie verwenden mu , verbessern die 2.0.3.0 Mikroprogrammaufstellung als oben.
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