Zen Xtra MP3 Quality Cha

I have a Zen Xtra 40gb. I use the MediaSource software to rip CDs to my computer and the Zen Xtra.
I rip the CDs to MP3s at 00% quality and variable bitrate. My Xtra has about 6500 tracks on it with less than gb left in memory.
I would like to keep the files saved on my PC to stay at the highest quality as a backup to my CD library. If I clear my Zen, is there a way to retransfer the files at a lower quality to save memory and get more tracks on it's
Thanks for any help you can provide.

SSR wrote:
PeeBee wrote:
Why pay for something when WMP can do it for free?
Perhaps because it has more functionality, as already stated. Can WMP convert from Ogg or other lossless formats? Can WMP convert to formats other than WMA?
In the "fine print" for MediaSource's conversion note that it's only when converting WAV tracks.
WMP can convert to MP3, but it either doesn't use the LAME codec or makes it confusing to download, so I usually stick with dbPowerAmp or Audiograbber (both freeware, to my knowledge) if I'm ripping to MP3.

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When I plug my Zen in to charge, it doesn't charge. There's an icon of a plug on the lower left corner and I can play music and everything but the battery isn't charging. Anyone know what's wrong with it's

Zen Xtra 40 GB
disassembled, cleaned, reconditioned, bench-tested, reassembled August 2005
operates perfectly according to manufacturer specs
all latest upgrades to software
presently sitting on top of my PC charging ( battery fully charged, 2 more to go)
From your description of the issue, the player doesn't recognize the presence of your battery. When I remove my battery, the plug icon appears and stays, indicating that the player is running off of the adaptor. Thus, your player is telling you that you have no battery to charge.
There could be numerous explanations, but the most likely problem is that you have a dead battery; this can be tested by substituting another battery (which you're going to need sooner or later, anyway). Next after that is defecti've firmware, which can be tested by reloading from the PC (not merely re-booting I'm afraid). Next after that is soiled or non-conducting battery leads; check your battery leads to make sure that there can be good electrical contact to the player. Next after that is bent or broken leads in the battery compartment, which should be readily observable; bent leads that are no longer in good electrical contact with the battery can be GENTLY bent outward to properly contact the battery; .5mm is sufficient. The final and least likely explanation is leads that are detached from the PC board. Verification of this requires disassembly of the player, something I do not recommend to anyone.
Reload your firmware. Check your battery connections. If you know somebody with a similar player, swap batteries with them. I bought 3 long-duration batteries on eBay for a very reasonable price. Batteries bought directly from Creative are expensi've, but given the unit's criticality (is that a word) to the player function, I would not say that it is unreasonable. Good luck.Message Edited by Etherdave on 0-22-2005 09:2 PM

HELP: Nomad Zen Xtra: MP3 filename

I don't have any sort of ID3 tags on my MP3s. I have them all sorted by filename. For example "ACDC - Back in Black.mp3". I really want to use this player but it's kind of troubling for me to not be able to just drag and drop my mp3s into the player and have them be there to be played as is(according to filenames). Is there any programs out there that allows me to not use ID3 tags for everything and instead sort by folders and filenames?
I honestly don't understand why something that costs so much money(meaning this mp3 player) to develop would not be designed with simple logic and usability in mind such as dragging and dropping folders etc...
A reply would be most helpful, thanks.

Annoyed wrote:I don't have any sort of ID3 tags on my MP3s. I have them all sorted by filename. For example "ACDC - Back in Black.mp3". I really want to use this player but it's kind of troubling for me to not be able to just drag and drop my mp3s into the player and have them be there to be played as is(according to filenames). Is there any programs out there that allows me to not use ID3 tags for everything and instead sort by folders and filenames?
Nope, no way to do it. You *can* get MP3 tagging programs that will use your filename and folder data to create the tag, so I think this is the best place to start.
I honestly don't understand why something that costs so much money(meaning this mp3 player) to develop would not be designed with simple logic and usability in mind such as dragging and dropping folders etc...
It actually works VERY well with tag data. Once people are used to it they tend to see why it works this way. If it's a real problem then buy an iRi'ver or Archos player which work the other way.

MediaSource 5 isn't recognizing my Zen Xtra pla

Hi,
I have a Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra mp3 player, version .03.02. I've had it since July of 2003.
I recently bought a new computer (Dell Inspiron 520; Windows XP Home Edition). My old computer had Creative Organizer software on it. I no longer have (or more accurately, I can no longer find) any CDs that would allow me to install that software onto my new computer.
When I first plugged my mp3 player into my new computer, the computer didn't recognize the hardware. I went to the Creative support site and downloaded this driver ( JB3MV2_PCWDRV_US_2_0_00.EXE ). Installing that allowed the computer to recognize the player. I then tried to transfer music from my computer to the player with Windows Media Player 0 (my preference is to avoid upgrading to WMP , if possible). The computer *did* recognize the player and I was able to move music over, but when I unplugged the player to view the new files I had placed there, I wasn't able to find them on the player (I think they *are* there somewhere, but I can't seem to find where the Windows Media Player put them).
Therefore, I went back to the Creative support site and downloaded and installed the Creative MediaSource 5 software ( CMS5_PCAPP_LB_5_0_38.exe ), but when I open up Creative MediaSource 5 and click on "Transfer Music," I get a pop-up box saying that there isn't any mp3 player plugged into the system, so it can't transfer anything. It gives me that box no matter how many times I unplug and re-plug in the player to my computer.
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Hi,
If you have not already, please make sure that you have the correct plugin installed. Check the firmware version of your Zen Xtra and go back to the download page where you downloaded MediaSource 5.
If you have the PlaysForSure firmware in your player, download and install this:
Creative PlaysForSure Devices Plugin 5.00.36 for Creative MediaSource 5 Player/Organizer 27.90 MB
CMS5_MTP_PCAPP_LB_5_00_36.exe
Otherwise, download and install this:
Creative ZEN and NOMAD Jukebox Plugin 5.00.22 for Creative MediaSource 5 Player/Organizer 6.24 MB
CMS5_NJB2_PCAPP_LB_5_00_22.exe
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Hello- I'm trying to install a Creative Zen Xtra mp3 player on Windows XP. I installed all of the drivers and software, but when I connected the player, I got an error from Windows saying the "USB device is not recognized". I tried downloading all the new drivers and software from Creative, but it's no use. I was hoping maybe someone would have the inf file so I can install the driver manually. I can't find it on the installation CD or online anywhere. Thanks for any help!?~Jim

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Hello,
my Zen Xtra mp3-player starts only in the rescue mode.
The following happened:
The mp3 player was no longer recognized by Windows XP. I have therefore extended the HDD and plugged directly to a PC. The file format has been designated as unknown. I have copied the files from the disk with Ontrack. I then safely removed the HDD and replugged into the mp3 player.
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longhan

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I have a Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra MP3 player. The hard dri've crashed on my old computer ( which used the wiindows XP operating system). I bought a laptop which uses Windows 7. I don't seem to be able to find a way to access the MP3 player with the windows 7 computer. I don't need?a lot of functionality. I would be happy to put tags on MP3 files with some other software, if only there was a way to get this laptop to talk to the MP3 player. Any suggestions?
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If you can find a PC running Windows XP with Windows Media Player 0 installed you can install the?Creative Zen Xtra PlaysForSure Firmware 2.0.03 - this will turn the player into an MTP device so you will not need to install any special drivers/software to copy music or other files to it (as long as the computer has Windows Media Player 0 or later installed - so Vista or 7 will be fine, as will up-to-date versions of XP).
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As I run Vista on my PC I had to resort to installing XP in VirtualBox to run the firmware installer but I would strongly recommend trying to find a real PC before resorting to emulators!
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Zen Xtra - low bitrate MP3s sound terri

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JimG90 wrote:
Thanks for the good and prompt response. If I may follow up?
I never installed CMS - did it come with my Zen Xtra? To install it now, do I need either to buy it or to find my original CD (which may be hard) or can I download and install it free from the support website as a Zen Xtra owner?
I do have Windows Media Player and MusicMatch Jukebox Deluxe - will either of those do what CMS does?
CMS would have come with the player on the installation CD but you can download it from the website. When you install it you need to install the drivers first, then connect your player so that when CMS installs it will see that you have a device that entitles you to load the program. Then load the Zen Xtra plugin for CMS.
You can convert the files with WMP when you sync the files to your player - in the Sync settings there is a quality tab and you can choose to convert the files before transferring. I think it will only convert to WMAs though. If you have Copy Protect switched on in the WMP settings then the files will have DRM applied.
PB

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evenstar wrote:
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