Zen xtra stuck in whatever...

i deleted some songs on my mp3 player, but not with the computer, only with the zen itself.
it stucked after 3 or 4 songs, and i couldnt turn it off. i pulled the battery out of it and pressed the reset button. it went on again, but freezed again in a wierd mode...
on the display is only the "EAX" sign and i cant turn it off or push any button...
i cant put a new firmware on it cause the connection between computer and zen is not working either!
so all in all i cant do anything!
i really would appreciate if anybody know a solution for this problem!
thanx

Mine has done some crazy stuff but I don't recall it ever doing that... what firmware version do you have on it's Did you try pulling the battery and leaving it out for a while? Also, did you try going into the "rescue" mode?

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    OK. Sorted it! Try this!
    http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9829
    Turns out you have to uninstall Windows Media Player Runtime v as well as WMP itself.
    Also, if you have the problem with reduced HDD space because of installing PlayForSure firmware, you could install a bigger hard dri've. They are the generic 2.5 inch hard dri'ves fitted in Laptop Computers! My 40Gb Zex Xtra now has the 80Gb HDD I removed from my VAIO! And it was easier to do on the Zen than it was on the VAIO!

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