Zstrings in Custom Metadata Panels

I'm trying to create a popup widget in a custom panel that will return a value with an ampersand (&) in it. I do something like this in the item variable "...;Folks{Mom & Pop};..." What gets stored is "Mom Pop" with no ampersand.
So I looked at the Zstring escapes and it seems that I should do something like "#{amp}" for the ampersand. Tried that "...;Folks{Mom #{amp} Pop};..." and what gets stored is "Mom #{amp" -- it's like the escape sequence is not seen in the item variable.
To add insult to injury, I don't know how to make Google search on "#{amp}" (it wants to simplify the search to just "amp").
Any ideas?
Thanks, Doug

Thanks Gunar,
I already had my custom XMP panel for my server product for InDesign. I tried to create a CS4 compatible panel on MacPro (Mac OS X 10.5.5 3GB RAM) using every possible method from the XMP FileInfo SDK pdf - it didn't work. The panel did show up in the dialog, but not the fields. Not only this, all fields also disappeared from some other panels. After I removed my custom panel, everything went back to normal.
I tried:
-Generic panel method - the fields didn't show up
-The Flex SDK method: when I run
ant built.xml
I got the "Target "build.xml" does not exist in the project "TestPanel"." error (I checked many times - all the files were where they're supposed to be, and I run it from the correct directory).
-I downloaded Flex Builder, followed all the steps - the fields didn't show up, and fields in other panels disappeared.
The idea of building the panel interface interactively is great - I hope it will ever work.
Any ideas of why it didn't work for me?
While we're on this, I think that the new tabbed interface for the File Info dialog is a huge step back. You already had a great interface, with the list of panel names on the left side - which is easy to use and is standard through many Adobe dialogs.
The multi-tab approach for many items proved to be inefficient long time ago. Right now you created a dialog that works like a dilaog in QuarkXPress 4 - what's the point?
To support the new tabbed interface, you had to introduce TWO new "arrow" controls, none of which is user-friendly, and which make a simple task of choosing a panel extremely confusing.
The new feature of changing panel position by dragging is great, but it could be also achieved through the side list approach.
Bottom line: could you please restore the side list approach. I think it will help advance the XMP technology further and encourage people to actually use it , instead of doing exactly the opposite.
Best,
Leo Revzin
Zevrix Solutions
zevrix.com

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