Adobe Photoshop CS4 or Lightroom?

I am very new to the photoshop programs and was wondering if I could get anyones opinion. I have a windows XP computer and want to be able to do some photoshopping/editing on photos that take with my Canon XSi. I was told that Lightroom 2 is all I'll need for all my editing since I'm just an amature, but the more I've seen on the adobe website, it looks to me like CS4 is the editing program and lightroom is really just for sorting photos and doing very general editing. I'm kind of confused on what each program is used for and would be greatful for any advice on whether to just stick with lightroom 2 or make the jump to Adobe photoshop cs4.
Thanks all.

Nick-n-Kayla,
No need to feel ignorant. Wait until you read some of the answers here and you'll know what ignorant really is. I don't follow what you said about Elements not having the editing capabilities you want. What is lacking? It has many lighting & filtering features. I don't have it, but I've helped people learn it. I was quite surprised at how much it can do.
I know nothing about Lightroom, or Aperture, as I have no need to shoot RAW files. As I said, Photoshop is the only program I use. For me, it covers everything. I do weddings, portraits, restorations, manipulations, Covers for CD's and books. So my confusion is when you say that Lightroom suits your needs better when it covers fewer areas than Elements. In other words, why get Photoshop when you feel that Elements is lacking?

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System
Provider
[ Name]
Application Error
EventID
1000
[ Qualifiers]
0
Level
2
Task
100
Keywords
0x80000000000000
TimeCreated
[ SystemTime]
2010-07-25T05:15:57.000000000Z
EventRecordID
78845
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Application
Computer
Gatherum
Security
EventData
Photoshop.exe
11.0.2.0
4bf2d4f6
unknown
0.0.0.0
00000000
c0000005
65637275
e28
01cb2bb3471d87bf
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS4\Photoshop.exe
unknown
b412e368-97ab-11df-8f49-001d60b646ef
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<Data>01cb2bb3471d87bf</Data>
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