Customize look

Can you customize the sun secure desktop looks, where the application
are in different area instead off the side like it is.

According to the admin-guide the classic webtop can be changed using Themes:
A small description of changing the Theme is on:
What I normally do is to change the JSP-pages of the browser-based webtop. General knowledge of JSP is required to change the look and feel.
Base dir: /opt/tarantella/webserver/tomcat/<version>/webapps/sgd/ (webtops/standard/webtop/).
Information about creating from scratch using the tta-applet can be found at:
If you need more information just reply here.
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    Dick Summerfield (aka Battus).
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    Last edited by Battus (2012-02-21 19:48:23)

    To take your points one by one:
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    Dick Summerfield (aka Battus)
    Last edited by Battus (2012-02-06 19:56:30)

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    The latest version Skype - When creating a group; and your the creator, you will NOT be able to see your group you just created in older versions of skype, Do you know how stupid this is? if I use the latest version of skype on my old gaming rig and log in: Oh yes I can see it just Fine, but in older versions I cannot.
    If I create a P2P moderated chat in Skype and also set a picture to the group profile properties: it will not show to older users, I don't know why this is like this but it just is.
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    Latest version creating a group chat p2p based: cannot see the group you just made, (You will not appear inside the chat yo just made it won't be listed on your chat history or anything), and 6.18 also cannot see the group you just made in
    Basically anything below version that has a P2P based group you made: it will not reflect in older versions.
    This means my acquaintances, friends, and business clients that wish to have a group meeting with me, they will not be able to see themselves in another computer: lets say they have a new PC and create the new group: then they have to suddenly run off and so they take their laptop with them: which has an older version of skype and have to run that version of skype for performance issues, well guess what: they wont see themselves!
    This is how stupid Skype has become!
    I have to run 3 different versions of skype just to Do what I need to do on a daily basis!
    Now Skype community: tell me this has really started to get really ridiculous? Because it really has!
    oh and if I set a profile picture for the group chat i made; that will only show to ALL users with all versions if i create the modded Group chat in skype, then set a picture: it will reflect and show in the latest version of skype and also in my old 6.18 version..
    And finally the last bit that really just killed the look of skype: What is up with all the bloody circles?!
    I mean really it is like Skype/Microsoft stole the idea of circles from GOogle/Youtube and Imperial online when it came to profile pictures for your self and each user in a group or 1vs1 conversation.
    Do I really have to go through all the trouble now of right clicking on a person to see their full profile picture now because their picture is bloody trimmed EVEN MORE around the entire edges? Ya i really want half my face CUT OFF to all my clients and friends when they want to find a picture of my face and see its mee and IM me, oh and I just really love it when it does that too to my group pictures like Cavedog Entertainment, or even Bricksquad: So much for properly showing my Company Logos of PCER, LTD, and Random00Six to my clients.
    It's like Microsoft just coppied the idea from Imperial online and Youtube/Google+: But again who the bloody heck wants Circles?
    Look Skype community: I can understand that many of you may want to change the way Skype looks, feels and it's functionality, I don't blame the community at all: you should have the right to change the way you want skype to act and feel to your desires, but I blame Microsoft: it is not fair that everyone should be forced into using the ideas of someone elses, Skype should have been left to 3rd party developers whom wish to code and create scripts to modify the way skype looks, just like MSGPlus! did with Windows Live Messenger, but you have to understand there is some that just don't want to or care to change the way their Skype looks and want to keep it that way.
    I have used Yahoo Messenger, AIM and other MSGing applications: NONE OF Them have done this stupid circle thing. Look for ICQ, AIM, and Yahoo messenger latest Versions. They still have a boxed picture profiling system and they give you the option to customize the way it looks a lot better then skype did, and some of these messenger apps still are simplistic and easy.
    With these latest versions of these messengers I just named off: They all still work better then skype: I can run AIM, Yahoo messenger, ICQ, mIRC, and can have a yahoo call going on with video streaming and not lag my computer to Crap: if I can run all those messengers simultanoiusly, but must painfully (sometimes it crashes my PC) pulling out my hair, and barely run skype alone: there is obviously something seriously wrong here!
    Has Microsoft not learned anything?: It is like the company has sacraficed Quality Performance and Simplicity for Beauty, they already did a horrible job of making windows 8 look like a overblown cattle bag of Mac OS Leopard's quickstart Bar: Window's 8's Start system with app lists is completely over exaggerated with a bunch of boxes blowing up your screen (Not even Mac Leopard and up had Application buttons and quickstart bar this complex and intruding!); and making the application search ability so complex that it takes longer just to work your apllications then compared to Windows XP.
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    Summary: the overall preformence and usage of Skype has dwindled greatly, and i must say, skype is no longer my main communication program anymore and I am sure that other users have had to find/ go back to an older application they used to use or are stuck with skype because that is where their friends and family are on so they have, so they use an older version.
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    I echo the pain and suffering of many skype users whom I have read countless Community forum complaints of problems with skype ever since Skype's Acquisition: it has bettered some users, but for others like my self; it has only caused problems and has made me to turn away from Skype.
    I wish you all good luck in your Communication protocol issues and hope for the best.
    Kind Respects,
                           E J

    I would appreciate that Any skype modorators or Administrators please contact me for copyright issues  when it comes to imaging usage on a post: I was not contacted for any violation in the TOS Policy what so ever; therefor there was no reason for my image to be removed.

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